JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 A week before the show and only three matches announced. And aside from Eddie/Rey challenging for the tag straps and a CW title match, I have no idea what could fill out this card. Any ideas? JBL vs. Big Show (WWE title, barbed wire cage match) Cena vs. Angle (Not gonna be Booker, people) Taker vs. Luther Then what? What a horrible build for this pay per view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Eddy/Booker Vs Bashams (Why? Eddy and Booker are still a "team"...So I'd have Jordan whose aligned with Bashams start causing problems...allowing Mysterio to come to even it up...however, Eddy tries to cheat but Rey wont let him. This screws the Faces as the Bashams win. This furthers the Rey/Eddy saga where rey wants to get eddy to go back to what made him a star and that's outwrestling people and not outcheating people...creating a dilemna for Eddy...do what got him to the wwe title in the first place or listen to his best friend? leading up to Mania against The CVC, whom are also having their share of problems). I guess you could have JBL smartly announce that Cena hasn't defended his title in 30 days(if he has...so what) so he has to defend it at No Way Out and since Cena was so careless to not defend it, they can't properly clarify who is the deserving #1 contender, so to be fair, it has to be a fatal four way...throw jordan, jindrak and mysterio in there) Funaki/London would be ideal but I'd save London winning the title @ Mania and just do Funaki/Kidman. That's six matches... throw in a *Bonus* match like Charlie Haas Vs Kenzo Suzuki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Where the hell is Kidman these days anyways? He hasn't been on TV in a while. They're going to have to come up with some last second shit this week on Smackdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Kidman's been off for awhile but it seems the other CW's already gotten a shot @ Funaki except London. London should be the obvious #1 contender...he did beat spike the former champion, beat Funaki in the non title rr spot 4 way(i think) and beaten akio back to back. Akio/Funaki would be good...have Akio lose or win..either way...London snaps and goes "I'VE BEATEN HIM THREE TIMES!!! When do I get my damn shot?!?"...and he gets it...with 7 other guys at Mania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuban Linx 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Throw in the tag and cruiser title matches, something utterly random like Orando Jordan vs Hardcore Holly, and some garbage with all the diva search rejects and you have a card, not a particularly good one but a card nonetheless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Y'know, I haven't really sat down and watched a full episode of Smackdown! in six months. Looking at that card, it's nice to see that absolutely nothing has changed whatsoever from the last time I watched. Well done, Smackdown!, you're the poster child for mediocrity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hhheld_down Report post Posted February 13, 2005 in the past few years it seems that NWO has really been a one match show, which sucks because 00/01 were awesome events. 2003: Hogan/Rock II 2004: Eddie/Brock (WWE title) 2005: JBL/Show (wwe title barb wire steel cage) yeah last year people bought the show to mostly see eddie win the title, this year could be armageddon like buyrates cause jbl/show is not gonna sell at all, no matter what kind of match it is. meh i could care less, i cant watch SD! anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Meltzer speculated Booker vs. Heidenrich? I miss something? (Which isn't impossible, really) Or is that just putting together two guys that have nothing else to do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 There's not excuse not to do something with London, considering he's one of the best workers in the company and the card is pretty empty. This PPV is the last one on the "Road to Wrestlemania" package I bought, so I'm kind of stuck watching it even if it looks like it sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 They seem to make most or half of the matches now the show before the ppv...you don't expect No Way Out to be booked well, do you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Meltzer speculated Booker vs. Heidenrich? MY GOD! WHY??? It's only a rumour, but we shouldn't even be subjected to rumours this bad. Is Heidenreich going to cost Book his match with Cena FOR NO REASON AT ALL and then have a shitty match with him on the PPV?!? Ugh. They should have, as they originally announced, had the semi-finals at NWO as well and done: Cena Vs. Taker Angle Vs. Booker That's four big matches for the show. Add Eddie/Rey and you've got the potential for something good. A London/Akio number one contenders match, Kidman/Chavo for the CW Title (Kidman beats Funaki on SD) and Bashams/Luther and Jindrak. IT'S NOT HARD WWE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tjhe CyNick Report post Posted February 13, 2005 I liked the idea of having the semis AND finals at the PPV. That would have been a good way to put over Cena strong. And it would have been an extra match on the show. Cena could have beat BT at the PPV, Angle would come out and do a hometown challenge (in the interest of fairness); HBK could come out and Superkick Angle and leave. Then Cena could beat Angle. Cena would look strong because he beat two guys in one night, and the Angle-HBK match would be set up for Mania. I hope since they are only doing the finals that they have no interference, and Cena just wins clean in the middle. He needs a big win going into Mania. Angle and Cena have had good matches in the past, especially that one from no Mercy (I think?) where the crowd was split down the middle cheering for both guys. The rest of the card was tough to book ahead of time because of the tourny. They couldn't book matches for Booker T, Rey, OJ and Eddie because they were all in the tourny. I would expect to see the Rey-Eddie vs Bashams match. Booker could be upset at NWO because Eddie picked Rey to team with instead of him. Eddie could say "Hey man take it easy, I thought you would be in the #1 contenders match holmes". Booker later costs Rey and Eddie the tag title match (by accident of course) and then leading to Mania, he starts to play Eddie and rey against each other. That leads to their match at Mania. After that its pretty tough. With Heidy-BT, maybe thats a match on house shows this weekend or something, so thats why Dave guessed that one. My guess is that we'll see Booker T vs OJ, a macth with Funaki for the CW title, and maybe something with Torrie and Hiroko. I really wish WWE would take a page out of the WCW playbook and throw out a couple of CW matches for this show, instead of some random Bob Holly vs Orlando Jordan match or something like that. So many fo the SD PPVs tend to have a weak undercard, just because there is a lack of talent depth on that brand. But for the most part, the cruisers sit on the sidelines. Nobody will likely care about a London vs Akio #1 contenders match, but I guarantee if they gave them 10 minute sor so, the fans would be into by the end. Way more than anything with Holly or the other worthless guys. I know I know, this is WWE, Cruisers are not to be taken seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Meltzer speculated Booker vs. Heidenrich? MY GOD! WHY??? It's only a rumour, but we shouldn't even be subjected to rumours this bad. Is Heidenreich going to cost Book his match with Cena FOR NO REASON AT ALL and then have a shitty match with him on the PPV?!? Ugh. They should have, as they originally announced, had the semi-finals at NWO as well and done: Cena Vs. Taker Angle Vs. Booker That's four big matches for the show. Add Eddie/Rey and you've got the potential for something good. A London/Akio number one contenders match, Kidman/Chavo for the CW Title (Kidman beats Funaki on SD) and Bashams/Luther and Jindrak. IT'S NOT HARD WWE! Cena vs Angle > Cena vs Taker, Angle vs Booker. And both of them wrestling twice in one night. There's no need for Eddie/Rey to fight each other, as that seems likely for a Wrestlemania match. Akio/London is a good idea of course. But there's no reason Kidman should win the CW title. Especially since he hasn't been seen for months. And chavo has been pretty much...nothing, he shouldn't even be in a CW title match. (even though he was this week). And Bashams/Jindrak and Reigns is a good idea..but, they've done it. And for some reason, I'm interested in TAker/Reigns. Partly because I enjoyed his promo...and then him acting like a pussy when Taker arrived. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 we should get some sort of Angle match that HBK can run in, or distract Angle from a Titan tron promo... it seems like they let that red hot Angle HBK feud die before it began. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Meltzer speculated Booker vs. Heidenrich? MY GOD! WHY??? It's only a rumour, but we shouldn't even be subjected to rumours this bad. Is Heidenreich going to cost Book his match with Cena FOR NO REASON AT ALL and then have a shitty match with him on the PPV?!? Ugh. They should have, as they originally announced, had the semi-finals at NWO as well and done: Cena Vs. Taker Angle Vs. Booker That's four big matches for the show. Add Eddie/Rey and you've got the potential for something good. A London/Akio number one contenders match, Kidman/Chavo for the CW Title (Kidman beats Funaki on SD) and Bashams/Luther and Jindrak. IT'S NOT HARD WWE! Cena vs Angle > Cena vs Taker, Angle vs Booker. And both of them wrestling twice in one night. There's no need for Eddie/Rey to fight each other, as that seems likely for a Wrestlemania match. Akio/London is a good idea of course. But there's no reason Kidman should win the CW title. Especially since he hasn't been seen for months. And chavo has been pretty much...nothing, he shouldn't even be in a CW title match. (even though he was this week). And Bashams/Jindrak and Reigns is a good idea..but, they've done it. And for some reason, I'm interested in TAker/Reigns. Partly because I enjoyed his promo...and then him acting like a pussy when Taker arrived. Except, ya know, you'd still get Angle/Cena because the winners would have to face each other...... And Angle/Booker would be better than Angle/Cena. There is a reason for Eddie/Rey. Eddie's frustrated that he's been pinned by Rey three times. Works for me. Do some funky storyline where Eddie is all pissed because he's only a midcarder a year after winning the belt. Have Rey/Eddie announced on SD, then have the two team up to win with Rey (in Eddie's mind) stealing the pin. Eddie's all pissed after the match, and you could make Eddie really paranoid and all cool stuff like that. Use the "couldn't handle it at the top" thing in the storyline and have Rey all "you should be at the top. Prove it. Beat me this Sunday and go bak for YOUR title" and Eddie's all "screw you man, I can't take it any more". Than Eddie beats Rey at NWO and they shake hands. Eddie's face again. BUT WAIT! The following SD, Eddie promises to watch Rey's back. Rey get's beat down by someone, but Eddie isn't there. Booker save Rey. Rey realises that his friend wasn't there for him. He doesn't respect him. Meanwhile, the guy who he ISN'T the best of friends with, has a ton of respect for him. Eddie gets jealous of Book and turns on him. HEEL EDDIE~! WrestleMania - Eddie (heel) beats Book, but clean. Book offers a handshake, but Eddie doesn't accept. Eddie remains a heel for the next couple of months, determined to win back his title (JBL remains champ). After JD, Eddie calls JBL out. HEEL VS HEEL! Crowd is way behind Eddie though, obviously. GAB, a year after losing the belt to JBL, Eddie wins it back. After the match, Rey and Book congratulate Eddie. Maybe even Chavo too! After everything that's happened, Eddie's friends stood by him! FACENESS~! Eddie realises that true value of friendship, and realises he was wrong. Eddie turns face and is WWE Champion. All is well with the world. Your other points: How often was Funaki seen before he won the belt? London/Kidman/Chavo should have been the WM CW title match; they can still make it happen. Why shouldn't Chavo be in a CW Title match? If Kidman were to win it, he and London would be the obvious contenders. They haven't done the tag match. This week's match hardly counts, because it was a three minute match with a non-finish. The Taker/Reigns stuff was pathetic. You had Luther cut this awesome killer promo and then? He acts like a pussy when Taker shows up. I'm sorry, but Luther would get A LOT more over if he was the one guy who didn't back down against Taker. Instead, he's like everyone other bitch who's shit scared of Undi. Boo on that, because it sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 i agree That was an awesome promo by Luther, and even as a Taker fan I thought his Throwing Jindrak and running away was Cheap. It would have been so much better had he really got in his face, would have made the feud that much Interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHK 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 This PPV is in my homewtoen and I can't go becasue I'm away at school. Judging by the card, This doesn't upset me. Oh, and HBK will interfere in the Cena/Angle final to give Cena the win and set up him and Angle at Mania, at which point I will mark out. Edit: It's also a nice bit of continuity by WWE, as Angle was Cena's first opponent, and I don't think they've wrestled one another since. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tjhe CyNick Report post Posted February 13, 2005 This PPV is in my homewtoen and I can't go becasue I'm away at school. Judging by the card, This doesn't upset me. Oh, and HBK will interfere in the Cena/Angle final to five Cena the win and set up him and Angle at Mania, at which point I will mark out. Hopefully they have more sense than that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Eddie/Rey v. Bashams would make sense. Funaki v. Kidman/Nunzio/Akio/Spike/whoever to fill time They'll want to get Booker on the card, so I expect interference from either OJ or Jindrak on SD! next week to set up something for the PPV After that....? Do Kenzo and Dupree still team? Maybe a match with Holly/Haas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Don't be surprised to see something w/ Torrie Wilson/Hiroko. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 For some reason..I'm expecting some big Tag title match. Like a 4 way or something. Bashams vs Rey/Eddie vs Kenzo and someone (most likely Dupree) vs Holly and someone... or something to that effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 i agree That was an awesome promo by Luther, and even as a Taker fan I thought his Throwing Jindrak and running away was Cheap. It would have been so much better had he really got in his face, would have made the feud that much Interesting. I agree, but they always have to make Taker look unbeatable and book him to strike fear in everyones heart, as if Luther in a real fight would sweat taker, Taker is an old man with bad legs, Luther nearly dies everal times, he woudlnt care he do whatever it took to win. taker as the guy everyone feared worked well in the eraly 90s, but now the guys pushing 40 (that is unless he is already somebody help me here), is balding, and looks ridicoulous in his biker/dead man combo outfit. besides, we all know whos doin the JOB at the ppv as for possible matches, I would also do a rey.eddie vs the bashams. funaki vs akio would be a good match. you could also do a kidman/london #1contender match that would have interest since they never resolved their feud (velocity doesnt count) then set up the funaki vs london for mania angle could do a hometown challenge since its his hometown, then force theo long to book cena in a us title match before the tourney finals match (threatening to get long in more trouble with the board if he refuses) my feeling though is that hbk will cost angle the match against cena, as if they need a weak challenger for mania personally they shouldnt even have this ppv, whats the point? it hurts mania I think. you could just do the show/jbl match on a free pre view smackdown, that would also feature the cena/angle, and tag title matches as well as cw title match. i guess vince just wants to squeeze some extra money out of pur pockets huh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 and why has the build for show/jbl been so slight? the dart gun thing was lame, I thought the darts knocked you out, cmon if one took out big show, youd think it would be enough to put down jbl, so why would show be dumb enough to fall for that? besides even if he truly belived JBL was out of it, why would he bother going to the ring, whats he going to do, be up a defenseless man? wouldnt that make him a heel? I guess he knew he was faking and tried to pretend he fell for it and thus would be ready for the ambush that followed. Great booking wwe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LessonInMachismo 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 Hopefully they have more sense than that What do you mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 This week on SD, they should have a throwback to the Angle/Big Show ledge thing, with TBS threatening to Chokeslam JBL off the ledge, but then deciding against it to "save him for the PPV". Though it's a certainty to US that JBL will win, that will throw a little doubt in to the whole "whoever gets the last laugh" theory because a) Big Show will have gotten the last laugh but: b) It would give the feeling that buying the PPV will let you see TBS finally destroy JBL. Plus, it'd be some nice continuity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2005 I wouldn't save London's win 'til Mania, nobody would notice if it happened there because bigger stuff happens there and it probably wouldn't get as much time either. It would be bigger if they did it on a lesser show, such as this one. What I would do... JBL vs. Show Taker vs. Luther (I hate it, but its already been announced) Kurt Angle vs. John Cena Now to the other stuff. WWE Cruiserweight Championship: Sho Funaki vs. Paul London You've done the big Japan trip, so give the belt to London here and actually try to make something out of him. The Cabinet vs. Eddy Guerrero, Booker T & Rey Misterio I considered just doing Bashams/Booker&Rey, after the challengers ditch Eddy, causing his heel turn, but I think it is too early for that. This way nobody is left out. Hardcore Holly vs. Daniel Puder Why not? Everybody knows Holly hates Tough Enough kids. Insta-feud. Chavo Guerrero vs. Billy Kidman vs. Akio vs. Nunzio vs. Spike Dudley vs. Shannon Moore No. 1 Contendership for CW Title. Mark Jindrak vs. Charlie Haas Heat/Cannon fodder match. New Team Angle vs. Old Team Angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted February 13, 2005 I was going to do Hardcore Holly Vs Puder but since Puder hasn't been on tv since the rumble, I figured he was sent to OVW for the time being. I like the Cabinet Vs Eddy/Booker/Rey idea more... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FromBeyondTheGrave Report post Posted February 14, 2005 WWE Title, Barbed Wire Steel Cage Match JBL .VS. The Big Show. 25min - 40min. Winner: JBL. No.1 Contender's Tournament, Final Kurt Angle .VS. The winner of the Booket T/Cena match next week, (John Cena). 15min - 20min. Winner: John Cena, after Shawn Michaels interferes, attacking Angle. Singles Match The Undertaker .VS. Luther Reigns (with Mark Jindrak). 7min - 12min. Winner: The Undertaker. Heidenreich & Snitsky interfere, but Kane saves The Undertaker just like at the Royal Rumble. WWE Tag Team Titles Match The Bashams .VS. Eddie Guerrero & Rey Mysterio. 10min - 15min. Winners: The Bashams, leads to Eddie/Rey break-up, and feud going into WM21. WWE Cruiserweight Title Match Funaki .VS. Billy Kidman or Chavo Guerrero or Akio. 7min - 10min. Winner: Kidman or Chavo or Akio, leads to the winner facing London at WrestleMania 21. Mixed Tag Team Match Kenzo Suzuki & Hiroko .VS. Torrie Wilson & ??? (Charlie Haas, maybe). 5min - 7min. Winners: Kenzo & Hiroko. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 This has to be the weakest No Way Out in history Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 WWE Title, Barbed Wire Steel Cage Match JBL .VS. The Big Show. 25min - 40min. Winner: JBL. No. Not at all. I saw you list Triple H Vs. Batista as 25-40 as well. Again, not happening. Don't be silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites