Big Show Rips Lesnar

[strummer 0]

from an interview with a Cleveland Sports Outlet:

 

SHOW: You know what, I'm gonna tell you something. Brock, listen to me because I'm telling you the truth from the heart - I'm pissed at you. I did a lot for him when I came over to Smackdown. I worked hurt with herniated discs in my back, chewing vicodins like they were M&Ms just so I could stand up straight and get to the ring, to do my match, to take an F-5 or a belly-to-belly or whatever I had to do to get him over, because he was gonna be our man. Whatever got in his head, to turn his back, which he did, on a multi-million dollar contract, had everything he wanted, EVERYTHING HE WANTED, and he got it fast. Great work ethic, tremendous in the ring, a natural at understanding psychology, executing moves and just being a freak of nature in the ring. Brock was all that and a bag of chips, there's no doubt about it. To see him go pull some goofball stunt and go play football, it really showed a tremendous amount of lack of respect to the guys in the locker room because when we needed him...

 

BELFI: He wasn't there.

 

SHOW: I had to have knee surgery. I had worn my kneecap down to the bone and when Brock left I had to work an extra two months so I could get somebody over, I don't know who it was, (John Cena laughs) so I could leave to go get knee surgery. He dumped all that on everybody. Just the attitude of he wants this, he wants that, he only wants to work a certain amount of dates. Honestly, my personal opinion, hey we had a great run with him, and we don't need him. We can work around him. To give him the red carpet treatment again, hell no.

[tekcop 0]

Big Show talks.

Man's got a point. Y'know, it's also kind of neat that Show knows his place in the WWE. He understands that at this ponit in his carerr he's there to make other guys starts and not himself. Certain other big(ish) name guys should learn that.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Show got as much out of those programs w/ Lesnar as Lesnar did. Show came over from Raw as nothing more than a 7' tall jobber, and underwent a career revitilization, due mostly in fact to working / Brock.

[Downhome 0]

That shouldn't even be TBS's place right now. In my eyes the guy should be a dominating force in WWE, much more than Kane, Snitsky, or any of those guys. All WWE is doing right now is wasting TBS.

 

It's not like the guy is old or anything, he's not one of the "over the hill" wrestlers. As far as I know, he just turned 34 on 2/8/05.

[NoCalMike 0]

I never even thought Brock was that good anyway, but leaving did hurt since he was "the man" that WWE wanted to run with.

[AndrewTS 0]

I did a lot for him when I came over to Smackdown. I worked hurt with herniated discs in my back, chewing vicodins like they were M&Ms just so I could stand up straight and get to the ring, to do my match, to take an F-5 or a belly-to-belly or whatever I had to do to get him over, because he was gonna be our man.

 

"Then I injured him and got an undeserved title reign."

[Guest Loss]

That shouldn't even be TBS's place right now. In my eyes the guy should be a dominating force in WWE, much more than Kane, Snitsky, or any of those guys. All WWE is doing right now is wasting TBS.

 

It's not like the guy is old or anything, he's not one of the "over the hill" wrestlers. As far as I know, he just turned 34 on 2/8/05.

33, actually. I only know that because he was 24 when he won his first WCW World title on 04/22/96.

[Downhome 0]

Ah, whatever then. I was just going by the infor at ObsessedWithWrestling.

[Guest Trivia247]

Im glad no one flamed what the Big Show said here.

 

He's basically right. Sure we can go on that Brock had the right to test the waters elsewhere, but as a wrestler its not just On your dime that you do anything, but also at the expense or benefit of the others around you.

 

Brock is No Goldberg by any stretch of the imagiation, and when it comes from me Believe me when I say thats No Insult. Goldberg's contrabution to any show was between 5-7 minutes and off he goes. his departure hurt the WCW as it may have the WWE sure, but not all that much. Brock is different though since he grew up in wrestling, the true amateur to professional wrestling. As did Kurt. Thats what may hurt more than Goldberg. Goldberg's leaving Psshhhh the Locker room saw it, and probably dropped a few feces in his gym bag as a going away present.

 

But Brock lesnar was raised up on the shoulders and Backs of the Hardys of RVD of The Big Show, of Hulk Hogan of The Undertaker to make him a Main eventer...... Lets not kid ourselves here, Brock had the ability and raw power and wrestling skill, but you get NO where unless someone out there in that ring Makes you look good as much as you make yourself good. and they did that for him. He WOULD have been the "Next Big thing" For at least half a decade or more. Those around him saw it and made no complaints about it. Perhaps the rise was too fast which is what alot of us has said, but the end result was a Great wrestler that earned his Spot by the Nods of his fellow wrestlers.

 

Did he have the right to leave sure, did he have the right to try the NFL sure...But his execution of those rights stunk, He didn't leave good, and when he couldn't make it out there outside of the wrestling world he wanted back in, but after the fact he spent a few interview times on the outside joking about his experience with the WWE that didn't make him any friends.

 

Its just a sad situation that so much talent ability and the time and health of so many other wrestlers for that matter was wasted by the end result of his actions.

[Vyce 0]

Show got as much out of those programs w/ Lesnar as Lesnar did. Show came over from Raw as nothing more than a 7' tall jobber, and underwent a career revitilization, due mostly in fact to working / Brock.

Don't give Show the short thrift here - a large part of that career revitalization isn't just how he's been booked, but because he's been, for the most part, busting his ass in the ring ever since coming to Smackdown.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

I agree he's been busting his ass, and I've enjoyed his work since coming over to SD, but working w/ Brock restored a great deal of credibility to Show. Show sounds like he forgets that he was nothing when he came over from Raw when he says he helped Brock get over.

[res37618 0]

As usual, I'm torn on the whole thing.

 

One one hand, Brock brought a lot to the business. Unless he was just having an off night, you could expect him to give you a good match, and he was a great champ. I saw so much more for him in his future - in fact, I'm sure that Brock/HHH would've headlined a WrestleMania sometime in the near future, maybe even this year, had he not left. Brock/HHH, Brock/Benoit, Brock/Jericho, Brock/HBK, Brock/Orton, Brock/Cena . . there was just so much left for him to do, that I'd love to see him come back and give us some more great matches.

 

On the other hand, fuck Brock Lesnar. While you can't blame someone at all for following a dream (after all, aren't all the wrestlers pretty much doing the same damn thing??), it seems like he's not very appreciative of the opportunity he did have, and seems hell-bent on just stirring up shit with lawsuits, ridiculous demands, and such. And could Vince trust him not to pull the same shit again if he did give him his job back? Vince has to run a company based on guys that will give their heart and soul to making the product work (even if the storylines are shitty sometimes), and who knows if Brock even gives two shits about it anymore. It's just a paycheck for him, I'm not sure that he would come back and actually care about the business, he just cares about himself. We all know that most of the guys have worked for years with little to no pay or fanfare to get where they are. Brock didn't have to do that, he was pretty much handed this on a silver platter. To say "Fuck Ya'll", leave, and then want his job back because he found out he sucks at football? Fuck him.

 

I say take him back, and the first time he even mentions leaving again, have Big Show stick a spiked dildo up his ass while Benoit gives him about an hour worth of knife-edge chops and German suplexes. That should fix him.

[Only The Strong Survive 0]

Show made a good point, but I think that his last comments take his opinion in a different direction.

 

They may have all busted their asses to make Lesnar look like a monster, but they still were able to take a brand lacking talent and any sense of entertaiment and turn it around (somewhat) yet again. The pushes of Bradshaw and Cena, along with the Cabinet and Angle's cronies, the main event scene is revitalized. The mid-card is still a disaster, but that'll come around to.

 

Brock was very useful, but they didn't need him.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Brock was very useful, but they didn't need him.

They absolutely need him. He'd be perfect for Smackdown, which is dying for something fresh. Lesnar's been gone long enough that singles matches with Cena, JBL, Angle (if his body holds out), RVD, and Undertaker could all mean something special. You know that Vince is never going to transfer from Raw to Smackdown the level of talent needed to really pull Smackdown up, so Brock returning to Smackdown makes a ton of sense.

[LessonInMachismo 0]

On Brock:

 

Judging from the way the boys would welcome him (or not welcome him) I don't think bringing him back is the greatest idea in the world. Now, should the boys act this way? Probably not. But they will. So we can go on how things SHOULD be or how things WOULD BE.

 

On Show:

 

He has really been impressing me in the ring and out. This interview in just one example. I just wish he looked like he did in '99 or even '00.

[Mystery Eskimo 0]

Given the average level of maturity in the WWE locker room, I think Brock would do well to stay away. He'd probably get raped by Bradshaw.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

I'm pretty confident Brock can handle himself against JBL.

[Guest Quik]

I did a lot for him when I came over to Smackdown. I worked hurt with herniated discs in my back, chewing vicodins like they were M&Ms just so I could stand up straight and get to the ring, to do my match, to take an F-5 or a belly-to-belly or whatever I had to do to get him over, because he was gonna be our man.

 

"Then I injured him and got an undeserved title reign."

Ding-ding-ding.

 

Fuck Big Slow.

[Guest JerichosHi-Lite]

Show got as much out of those programs w/ Lesnar as Lesnar did. Show came over from Raw as nothing more than a 7' tall jobber, and underwent a career revitilization, due mostly in fact to working / Brock.

Yeah but Show had to get something out of it. What's the point in Lesnar going over and being made to look good by Fat, Slow Show? If Show didn't look good it would've lessened Brock's impact. Besides, regardless of what Show got out of their feud, his reign and push on SD were still designed to put Brock over, end of story.

 

Good interview. Show handled the question maturely. His recent interviews have really impressed me.

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

I just rewatched the HOF DVD, and Big Show's charisma and timing is great

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Big Show is worthless IMO. I don't buy him as a killer, no matter how many people he takes on at once. Lesnar was a killer. Really, the WWE treats their wrestlers so bad that if one of em wants to get out good fer em. Sadly it was Brock, who I would take over 96% of the roster.

[Black Lushus 0]

Big Show is worthless IMO. I don't buy him as a killer, no matter how many people he takes on at once. Lesnar was a killer. Really, the WWE treats their wrestlers so bad that if one of em wants to get out good fer em. Sadly it was Brock, who I would take over 96% of the roster.

I can't believe this, but I actually agree with Rudo...I haven't taken Big Show as a serious threat in years...he's done too many goofy angles and too many jobs to be taken as such...Kane is headed that way also if he isn't there yet...

[Vyce 0]

Bah.

 

RRRudo's just privately jerking off at the thought of Lesnar doing Pride or K-1 over in Japan.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Oh, it's not private.

[Guest Fook_Theta]

Did I miss something but his talking about Lesnar was not the important issue touched on in that interview.

 

WWE expected him to work two months with a fucked up knee while being drugged up on pain killers? While a good deal of that is from his body's natural problems, there is enough talent on the roster(or there could be) to have someone more healthy fill in for Big Snore. Maybe this is part of the reason things have been so fucked up lately, that there enough worn down and drugged up 'main eventers' that they cannot get their shit straight and politik enough to get a decent feud going.

 

I swear I hope the government fucks McMahon up one day with his shitty healthcare for his workers. Some things can be worked around and on, this sounds like a borderline case especially when he was "chewing Vicodin like M&Ms."

[jester 0]

Did I miss something but his talking about Lesnar was not the important issue touched on in that interview.

 

WWE expected him to work two months with a fucked up knee while being drugged up on pain killers?

No kidding.

 

Too many people are acting like Evil Snidely Brock Lesner left Kindly Old Mr. McMahon who ran the local animal rescue shelter.

 

Or that because the other wrestlers eat shit every day, a person who decides to try something else is the problem, rather than the organization itself.

 

Sometimes I think Hogan had it right. Bend McMahon over and fuck him as many times as you can, before he finds a way to do it to you.

[Guest Trivia247]

and yet still watch the tortured sad drugged up Circus Animals perform for you...

[jester 0]

and yet still watch the tortured sad drugged up Circus Animals perform for you...

I don't quite get your point here. This makes it all okay?

 

Anyway, I don't enjoy watching people I know are injured. I think Angle should retire because of the damage he's taken. I would rather not be entertained than see a guy paralyzed or worse.

 

McMahon apparently is willing to take the risk.

 

Yeah, I know. Angle is crazy and will wrestle with gunshot wounds. McMahon should be caring for his wrestlers when they won't care for themselves. He's been inconsistent with this to say the least.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Don't try and comprehend Trivia.

[Star Ocean 3 0]

I just realized how similar this is to Ricky Williams. .