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If he wins the ladder match this week...

 

Then defeats Jannetty next week...

 

What's left? Winning the cruiserweight title? Losing his smile? Revealing his Wrestlemania trainer to be Jose Lothario?

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Kurt Angle will have to win the Tag Team titles twice and job them without actually losing, steal a title from someone that has no value to it, vacate the World Title weeks before he's scheduled to job it to someone else, have Mike Tyson join his posse, wrestle a boring 50-minute iron man match vs. HHH, and be born again.

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Kurt Angle will have to win the Tag Team titles twice and job them without actually losing, steal a title from someone that has no value to it, vacate the World Title weeks before he's scheduled to job it to someone else, have Mike Tyson join his posse, wrestle a boring 50-minute iron man match vs. HHH, and be born again.

Yah, you have no biased towards Shawn...

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They are all legit. Shawn holds the record for most titles won without actually losing them.

 

World Title once (I lost my Smile).

IC Title twice (1993 and 1995).

Tag Titles twice (1994 & 1997).

European Title once (a joke match doesn't count).

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The spoilers are legit. Here are two reports from wrestlingobserver.com, However neither report mentions Angle challenging Michaels to a ladder match

 

by John Massey and Sammy Eanes

 

WWE Smackdown Tapings

Roanoke Civic Center

Roanoke, VA 3/8/05

by John Massey

 

 

Here are the results of tonight's Smackdown tapings in Roanoke, Virginia (taped 3/8/05 to air 3/10/05):

 

The show opened with the Kid Rock video altered with a historical Wrestlemania twist.

 

No dark matches.

 

Velocity:

 

1) Joey Matthews and Johnny Nitro defeated Nunzio and Shannon Moore in about 6 minutes when Nitro pinned Nunzio after a tag team DDT.

 

2) The Bashman Brothers defeated Hardcore Holly and Charlie Haas. Holly had Danny Bashman up on his head and Doug kicked Holly in the head, which lead to Danny rolling over for the pinfall in about 8 minutes.

 

3) Spike Dudley defeated Scotty 2 Hotty in seven minutes. After an unsuccessful Worm attempt, Spike rolled up Scotty and held on to the tights for the pin.

 

Chavo Guerrero Jr. then made his way out for commentary.

 

4) Paul London defeated Akio in a #1 Contender Cruiserweight match. Very good match that went about thirteen minutes. The finish saw Akio go for a top rope hurrancanrana and London reverse out of it with a roll through for the pin.

 

The Eugene Hollywood Wrestlemania Video aired. As this aired, production changed the set over to Smackdown.

 

Michael Cole and Tazz then made their way out.

 

Smackdown:

 

There was no opening at the beginning.

 

1) Booker T. defeated Heidenreich in a no disqualification match in 9 minutes. This could air at any point on the show since it was taped prior to the opening of Smackdown. Booker won after nailing the Green Machine with a harlem hangover, sidekick and then a vicious chairshot. Not bad considering one of the parties involved and Booker did his best to carry his opponent to a decent match.

 

The HHH/Batista Wrestlemania Promo aired.

 

The Smackdown opening was then shown. A video package recapped last week's events with JBL, John Cena and Orlando Jordan.

 

JBL & the Cabinet In-Ring Promo

-This was about a fifteen minute segment. JBL and company made their way to the ring. JBL talked about last week's events and how Orlando Jordan is the greatest athlete in Smackdown history. He then challenged Eddie Guerrero and Rey Misterio Jr. to a tag team title match later on in the night. He said that JBL and Jordan would take two more belts by the end of the night. JBL then talked about Cena's disrespect for the United States title by customizing the belt saying "That's something kids do to their cars when they should be saving their money for their education: pathetic!" JBL then dropped the belt into a trash can and they blew up the spinning belt inside of the trash can in the center of the ring. JBL then presented Orlando with the previous version of the US Title (saying he had it shipped directly from WWE headquarters this week) and JBL and his cabinet left the ring.

 

The Triple H Hollywood Wrestlemania Video aired.

 

A video then showed the challenge that Randy Orton issued to the Undertaker on Raw.

 

Backstage, Teddy Long talked to Carlito and told Carlito that his job tonight would be to find the Undertaker and get his answer to Orton's challenge for Mania.

 

Elsewhere backstage, Eddy and Rey were talking about the tag team match later in the show when Chavo Jr. came in and told them that he does not want to see them lose the tag team titles because that would make him the only Guerrero with gold. Interesting segment but it didn't go anywhere during the show.

 

Josh Matthews was shown waiting outside (apparently for John Cena to arrive).

 

Carlito was then shown searching for Undertaker backstage. He was visibly scared (by this point, we've had about 45 minutes without in-ring action. Can we get a match?)

 

2) Mark Jindrak defeated Luther Reigns in 3 minutes (I should have kept my mouth shut about wanting a match). Reigns came out first and Jindrak attacked him int he aisle. Not the greatest action in this one, and the crowd had a faint "boring" chant for much of the 180 seconds that the match lasted.

 

John Cena arrived but basically brushed off Matthews backstage.

 

John Centa In-Ring Promo

-Cena then made his way out to a huge pop. Cena really stepped it up with his mic work in this segment. He was more serious and direct and I think that went far with the crowd (as opposed to the gay jokes and the humor that caters to pre-teens). Cena called out JBL and crew saying that they got in his business and how he wants a fight. After a couple of minutes, Teddy Long made his way out. He said that he could not risk the WWE Title match at Wrestlemania but could change the tag team match later in the night and give Cena a rematch against Jordan for the US Title. Cena didn't like the idea and asked Long, "You did see what they did to me last week didn't you?" Cena basically told Long that he's either a part of the solution or part of the problem, and tonight, he was part of the problem. Cena then gave Long the FU and left the ring.

 

The ring crew then hung Kurt Angle's gold medals above the ring and placed a ladder in the ring.

 

Kurt Angle then made his way out. He talked about Shawn Michaels' accomplishments and then showed footage of the 1994 Wrestlemania Ladder Match between Michaels and Razor Ramon. Angle then said that he would show Michaels how a real ladder match is executed.

 

3) Kurt Angle defeated Hometown Hero Mike Haywood in 3 minutes. Angle destroyed Haywood and dominated for the short while it lasted, and did so while the ladder was erected in the ring. The ladder didn't move, nor was it used. Angle then put Haywood in the Ankle Lock for a few moments as Haywood tapped out repeatedly. Angle then non-chalantly climbed the ladder and retreived his medals. At the top of the ladder, Angle sat. The crowd chanted "You Suck" (Angle and JBL were equally over as the biggest heels of the night). Angle said that the ladder match wasn't so bad, and if he would have faced Michaels in 94, it would have had the same result. Angle then showed footage of the 1989 Wrestlemania with the debut of the Rockers. He said that Marty Jannetty taught Michaels everything he knows but Shawn always got the spotlight. He said that he's challenged Jannetty next week for Smackdown and Jannetty will face him and that he will make him tap out.

 

The Undertaker Hollywood Wrestlemania video aired.

 

Wrestlemania Recall aired from a couple years ago with the backstage segment involving Okerlund, Heenan, Moolah and Mae Young leaving the room backstage.

 

Backstage, The Big Show was interviewed regarding Akebono. Footage was shown of the staredown in Japan between the two. Josh Matthews told the Big Show that Akebono has challenged the Big Show to a sumo match at Wrestlemania. Big Show accepted the challenge. This received no reaction whatsoever from the crowd. Why? Because no one cares.

 

There was then a rundown of the Wrestlemania lineup.

 

The Christy Playboy Video aired.

 

Carlito In-Ring Segment

-Carlito then made his way out. He said that he needed to get an answer from the Undertaker regarding Orton and that he was tired of looking for him backstage (even though we only saw him search one place all night). Undertaker made his way out. He entered the ring, grabbed Carlito by the throat, said a few words and accepted the challenge, then tombstoned Carlito and left. The actual words spoke by Taker and the tombstone lasted less than 45 seconds. The entrance and Taker leaving the ring lasted close to six minutes. Ridiculous.

 

Backstage, JBL and Orlando began walking towards the ring entrance area and talking about the upcoming match-up.

 

4) Eddie Guerrero and Rey Misterio Jr. defeated JBL and Orlando Jordan in 15 minutes via disqualification. Eddie and Rey made their way out first in a customized car. JBL and company then made their way out in the limo. This was a solid matchup, but not enough to save the lack of quality (or any for that matter) in-ring work on the show. A lack in logic here. Cena was angry in his in-ring segment earlier in the show. He wanted JBL and company. He demanded they come to the ring. He held a pipe doing all of this. Teddy Long never once threated to suspend him, fire him, fine him, or any type of punishment if he attacked JBL and company. So one would think that Cena would come down immediately after the match began and attack the people that he had been after all night. This didn't happen of course. Instead, the match went fifteen minutes and when Rey Jr. went for the 619, JBL nailed him over the head with a chair, prompting a DQ. The Bashams then ran out (they were originally at ringside but sent to the back by the referee midway through). The Bashams, JBL, and Jordan laid out Eddie and Rey. Cena then ran in (through the crowd) and cleaned house and cleared the ring of JBL and company. JBL then hit the floor and jumped over the barricade, standing by the fans. JBL and Cena had a staredown and that's where the show will end on Thursday night.

 

After the cameras stopped rolling, Cena called JBL back into the ring. He challenged him to a match and JBL said not tonight. JBL and Jordan then tried to head backstage but Cena had another idea in mind instead, a tag team match. The Big Show then came out. So the advertised dark match of JBL/Cena/Big Show 3-way for the title has now become JBL/Jordan v. Big Show/Cena.

 

In the dark match main event, Big Show and John Cena defeated JBL and Orlando Jordan in 13 minutes. Cena pinned Jordan to end the match. After the match, Cena talked some more on the mic and left through the crowd.

 

Final Notes:

 

I would estimate about 5500-6000 in attendance. For the parts of the arena not blocked off, it was surpisingly full. The show reminded me of some old WCW Thunder shows, where there just isn't enough big name, star power on the show to carry the event. It also brought back flashbacks of the Russo era with the jumps from one segment to another and large gaps without any in-ring action. If that isn't enough, if you look at the Velocity results, three of the four matches have been on Velocity at least once in the past month. Creative probably doesn't care about that, because no one watches Velocity right?

 

It was nice to not have to deal with garbage segments involving the unnamed and unimportant Smackdown divas. That was one plus on the show. Also, JBL was great in his role. As mentioned earlier, JBL and Angle were about equally over as the biggest heels of the night and both were excellent in their mic work. Cena, Taker, Big Show and Booker T were the most over faces during the night. Everyone was great in their roles and worked really hard with what they had to work with. It's just unfortunate that the company isn't giving them MUCH to work with.

 

 

From Sammy Eanes:

 

WWE Smackdown Spoilers Roanoke VA Civic Center 03/08/05

 

We got there a little late, so I’m not 100% sure what happened at the very

beginning. Sounded like MNM may have wrestled a dark match, because of the way

a guy around me was describing the girl that was out earlier, but he didn’t

provide the best description either.

This was the first WWE

TV taping in Roanoke since Raw back in December of 1997.

 

First Match I saw was Bob Holly & Charlie Haas versus Bashams.

Basic Velocity match. Crowd was pretty hot, especially for Bob Holly. Bashams

got the victory, but fans still chanted for Holly afterwards.

 

Scotty 2 Hotty versus Akio

A lot of stalling early by Spike. Dudley used a full nelson early. Are they

not worried about him using Masters’ finisher? Scotty came back with a

superkick for a near fall, then hit the bulldog and went for the worm, but

Spike rolled outside. Scotty went to suplex

Spike back into the ring, but Spike rolled him up and used the tights for the

pin.

 

Paul London versus Akio

Chavo Guerrero came out to do commentary for this one. London did the Brody

stomp again. Couple good near falls early. London clotheslined Akio outside

and hit a plancha. Back inside Akio worked over London’s leg. Akio went for a

huracanrana from the top rope, but London rolled through with a sunset flip

for the pin. London and Chavo stared each other down afterwards. Possibly the

best match of the night, which isn’t saying a whole lot.

 

Next Tazz and Michael Cole came out for Smackdown. Although it was weird,

because they switched the apron and what not and changed the jumbo tron to

Smackdown, although this next match may not be on the show. Let me preface all

of this by saying that if you want a lot of in-ring wrestling, this weeks show

is not for you.

 

Booker T versus Heidenreich

WEAK punches from Heidenreich early. The two fought to the outside where

Booker T got posted. Back inside Booker used a forearm and spinebuster.

Heidenreich went for a chair, but Booker used a scissors kick and then grabbed

the chair. Booker hit him with a nasty chair shot and pinned Heidenreich to a

pretty big pop. Heidenreich looked real woozy when he got up. If this is on

television, boy am I sad to see them blow off this program so soon.

 

HHH Batista promo aired, some pop, but not that great.

 

Up next they ran the Smackdown open, with no pyro, then recapped last week

with Orlando Jordan winning the United States Title.

 

JBL, Jordan, the Bashams and security all came out. JBL talked about letting

the fans relish in his greatness. He said he was going to celebrate a man who

embodies the cabinet, Orlando Jordan, who beat Cena last week “one on one”.

Loud Cena chants. JBL said Virginia is backwards and should chant for OJ. JBL

went on to make jokes about Hispanics and challenged Eddie Guerrero and Rey

Mysterio to a tag title match tonight against he and OJ. JBL then made fun of

the spinning US Title, which I think is very cool, and said it symbolized

everything he hated about John Cena. He then put the belt in a trash can and

flipped a switch which set off pyro from the trash can. He then presented OJ

with the other US title belt.

 

The Mania Hollywood promos aired all night. Ric Flair got a big time pop

during the Braveheart one.

 

Recap of the Randy Orton challenge to Undertaker on Raw

 

Back inside Theodore Long is on the phone when Carlito shows up. Long says he

wanted Carlito to find Undertaker tonight and find out what Taker’s response

is to Orton’s challenge. Peanut says he’ll fire Carlito if he doesn’t do it.

 

Josh Matthews was shown waiting outside for John Cena to arrive.

Carlito was looking for Taker, a Civic Center employee accidentally turned off

the lights and freaked out CCC.

 

FINALLY we get a wrestling match…oh..and it’s Luther Reigns versus Mark

Jindrak. Jindrak jumped Reigns coming down the isle. Really a nothing match,

but what did you expect. Jindrak showed a tiny little bit of fire. Thankfully

this was kept short, like 3 minute short, Jindrak pinned Reigns.

 

Cena was shown arriving at the building, Josh Matthews asked him a question,

but the crowd was too loud and I couldn’t hear what Cena said.

 

Kurt Angle came out with his gold medals handing from the ceiling and a ladder

in the ring. He flashed us back to 1994, said when he was training for the

Olympics, Shawn Michaels was competing with Razor Ramon at WrestleMania X in a

ladder match. They showed clips. The highlights had a WWE 24/7 bug in the

corner. Angle said many consider that the best ladder match ever, but that’s

only because he’s never wrestled one. They brought out this week’s whipping

boy, who is an indy guy with NWA Virginia and some of the others around. Angle

asked what his name was, but before he could get it all out, Angle slapped

him. Angle fish hooked him and beat him down, before slapping on the ankle

lock, then climbing the ladder and getting his medals. Angle then said he

wanted to flash back even further. He said that in 1989, Jose Canseco was

hitting home runs, the B52s were on top of the charts and Shawn Michaels made

his WrestleMania debut. They showed footage of the Rockers coming out for

their WrestleMania V Match. He said that everyone knows Marty Jannetty taught

Shawn Michaels everything he knows and that Jannetty was the real glue that

held the Rockers together. Angle said that he had arranged a match with

Jannetty next week in Savannah, GA. Angle said next week Michaels can learn

another thing from Jannetty, how to tap out to Kurt Angle.

 

I guess the biggest news of the night came in the next segment as Big Show and

Joy were backstage with Josh. Matthews brought up the Akebono challenge and

they officially announced Big Show versus Akebono in a sumo challenge at

WrestleMania.

 

They then ran down the Mania card, biggest pop, by far, was for Austin in

Piper’s Pit. I’d say the Cena/JBL match got an even reaction to the

HHH/Batista match.

 

Carlito came to the ring and was tired of looking for Undertaker. He called

out the Dead Man, who promptly came out. Taker grabbed Carlito by the throat

and was short and to the point, he said Randy Orton will be like the rest who

have tried to stop him at Mania and Orton will rest in peace. Undertaker then

tombstoned Carlito.

 

They ran down the Hall of Fame inductees again, Hogan got almost no reaction

and even some boos. Piper got by far the biggest reaction of any of the Hall

of Famers.

 

Main Event: World Tag Team Titles: Eddie Guerrero & Rey Mysterio versus JBL &

OJ. Eddie and Rey were way over. Very loud Eddie and 619 chants. Rey used a

huracanrana for an early near fall on OJ. Eddie used the tag rope to choke

JBL. The cabinet took control as JBL did a delayed vertical suplex and a

fall-away slam on Misterio. OJ came in and they got heat on Myterio. Rey came

back with a tornado DDT on JBL and got the hot tag to Eddie, who cleaned

house. They had OJ set up for the 619, but JBL was hiding outside and hit Rey

with a chair when he attempted it, causing a DQ. The Bashams, who had been

kicked out from ringside earlier in the match, returned until John Cena came

out and made the save. He threw the Bashams out of the ring, then FU’d OJ

while starring down JBL, who was in the crowd by this point.

 

Show ends there but they did the extra match of JBL and OJ against Cena and

Big Show. Long match, but nothing much to it. Cena pinned Jordan with the FU

then went into the crowd to send the chain gang home happy.

 

Overall definitely not the best show I’ve been to, but it was decent. Fans

were definitely into Cena and JBL, especially when the two locked up together

in the dark match main event.

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And they're gonna have TWO ladder matches at WM? Horseshit.

 

Is Dusty Rhodes booking Smackdown now?

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Whoever wrote that initial report is a retard.

 

Angle didn't challenge HBK to a ladder match.

 

And wow, Booker did a Harlem Hangover to Heidenreich?

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!

 

I SMELL a ROCKERS reunion next week. Shawn will come to the rescue late in the match, allowing Marty to pick up the win. This will then be followed up with the Rockers' famous double-team vintage moves -- double dropkick!! double fistdrop!!

 

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!

 

I SMELL a ROCKERS reunion next week. Shawn will come to the rescue late in the match, allowing Marty to pick up the win. This will then be followed up with the Rockers' famous double-team vintage moves -- double dropkick!! double fistdrop!!

 

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

What would be awesome is if during the middle of Angle vs. Jannetty, HBK tried a run-in and Jannetty totally turns heel and him & Angle throw HBK through a glass window.

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Would you really bid on something signed by ORLANDO JORDAN?!

 

 

The only thing I would bid on signed by him would be his own pink slip.

I'll buy that piece of shit belt, burn it, and then flush the ashes down a toilet, even if it was signed by someone who had talent.

How did you get back in here? Not even the revered WWE folder is sacred anymore.

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Yeah, that report makes a lot more sense with Angle/Michaels.

 

Marty Jannetty? Having just watched his shoot interview, he looked pretty good physically...certainly better than last I saw of him. And that was from last year. So hopefully, he should be in good enough shape for a 3 minute Angle squash.

 

And post match, maybe Michaels can run out to save Jannetty from a beatdown, leading to some Rockers tag spots to run Angle off. And then of course, Michaels superkicks Jannetty for old time's sake. I'd watch Smackdown for that.

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!

 

I SMELL a ROCKERS reunion next week. Shawn will come to the rescue late in the match, allowing Marty to pick up the win. This will then be followed up with the Rockers' famous double-team vintage moves -- double dropkick!! double fistdrop!!

 

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

What would be awesome is if during the middle of Angle vs. Jannetty, HBK tried a run-in and Jannetty totally turns heel and him & Angle throw HBK through a glass window.

 

Well, if they do it to close the show then it works. Cause Shawn will be spraying blood out of his forehead like a lawn sprinkler if they throw him through a window.

 

Shawn Michaels just REALLY seems to love blading.

 

Also: Marty= Ratings

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Marty Jannetty?! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!

 

Marty was always my favourite as a kid... I'll mark out like a 5-year old even if he gets squashed in 30 seconds!!!

 

But if Angle is going to accomplish everything that Michaels did... then shouldnt he have to have a ***** match with Jannetty?

 

Either way I don't care... personally if they've broughten Viscera back.. and wait and see what kinda pop Jannetty gets. If he gets a good pop, keep him around baybee!

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Heh! Angle even bringing up Marty Jannetty (and claiming he taught Shawn everything he knows) is awesome, let alone challenging him.

 

I may wind up catching SD this week.

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I'd like to see them bring Jannetty back as a heel, like how it was mentioned...and after Mania...if Shawn is staying around...have Jannetty be hell bent on putting an end to Shawn Michaels' career one way or another.

 

Like, either he'll do it himself, or guide another wrestler to do it.

 

...then again, if they went with that plan, that might have Jannetty managing Snitsky...

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If they were to do a ladder match, they could put the medals on the line. I suspect they'll come into play somehow even if they don't do the ladder ie foreign object, Angle puts them on the line, etc.

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I'm loving Angle's 'go through HBK's career', although I would've liked to see Angle beat someone credible in the Ladder match. I'm really looking forward to seeing him vs. Jannetty next week. Although, I can't help but laugh at Jannetty since a neighbor that's about 21 years old now beat Jannetty in some Indy fed about a year ago.

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All "former stars" do jobs to people on Indy shows. It's an easy paycheck, unless you're a dick that no one wants to bring in. (thinks of Jake Roberts and Jim Neidhart)

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I'm loving Angle's 'go through HBK's career', although I would've liked to see Angle beat someone credible in the Ladder match.

They couldn't really do that. A lot of time was needed for Angle to do his promos, so they couldn't devote a lot of time to the actual match. Putting in someone established against Angle would have needed at least another 6-8 minutes to avoid making the established person look weak. Plus, it would have made Angle weak to vow to show up HBK and then struggle.

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I'm loving Angle's 'go through HBK's career'

Me too. I have to admit, the WWE came up with a great way to promote the HBK/Angle match.

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Since we know what Angle will be doing, I'm curious to see what Shawn will be doing for the next couple of weeks. I can't really imagine him trying to go through Angle's career, so it'll be interesting to see how they build the match up with him.

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!

 

I SMELL a ROCKERS reunion next week. Shawn will come to the rescue late in the match, allowing Marty to pick up the win. This will then be followed up with the Rockers' famous double-team vintage moves -- double dropkick!! double fistdrop!!

 

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

What would be awesome is if during the middle of Angle vs. Jannetty, HBK tried a run-in and Jannetty totally turns heel and him & Angle throw HBK through a glass window.

That would be quite possibly the coolest thing ever.

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I really wouldn't buy Jannetty as a heel (think back to his 1996 heel run), but that would be awesome to see.

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Awesome to see MNM on the main roster (unless that was a dark match). Sucks that they'll debut on the B-show with no hype though. And no mention of Melina with them...hmmm.

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