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Yeah, AOTC has gone from my 2nd favorite of the saga to probably 4th now.

 

Although the deeper I get into analyzing the saga like the good little nerd I am, I'm finding that I can't really rank them anymore except saying ESB was the best (which it still will be after ROTS comes out, mark my words).

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To be fair though, the films are succeeding magnificently in showing the decline of the Republic and its weakening from within until paranoid hysteria and personal interests finally push democracy to the side fully.

 

Obi-Wan's the MVP of the saga because Ewan's managed to play a damn good young Kenobi consistent with the already established older one as a model, and Qui-Gon's the ideal Jedi in my mind thanks to Liam Neeson's film-saving (especially in light of him not having a template of an OT character to use as a base) performance in TPM. The Emperor who felt like he was just kinda there in the OT is really brought to life by Ian's damn near flawless execution and simple voice intonation so far.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

BTW, I meet more and more people who say they really loved Liam in Phantom Menace, even if the rest of the movie blew.

 

 

Based on the magnificent story being told in the Revenge of the Sith novelization, I think we'll appreciate the other tow prequels more once we see how the 6 pieces fit together...even if Attack of the Clones was mostly crap.

I'll third what he just said.

 

Ewan McGregor, Liam Neeson, and Ian McDiarmid all have done exceptionally well.

 

I think Hayden may show he can act in the next, so we shall have to wait and see.

 

I'm not sure Ian McDiarmid hasn't got more roles in Hollywood. His other two big roles are Thomas Lancaster from Sleepy Hollow, and Arthur the butler from Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. That's pretty much it. I guess his calling is theater.

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Based on the magnificent story being told in the Revenge of the Sith novelization, I think we'll appreciate the other tow prequels more once we see how the 6 pieces fit together...even if Attack of the Clones was mostly crap.

 

It would be interesting to see how the movies played out to someone 10-15 years from know, who got to see the the movies in the correct sequence.

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It would be interesting to see how the movies played out to someone 10-15 years from know, who got to see the the movies in the correct sequence.

They'd probably quit halfway through Episode II (when Anakin talks about Padme's hair and the sand), and they'd wonder what the big deal was about.

 

Personally, I'd take the stance that they're just not meant to be seen I-VI.

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I've actually been thinking about that quite a bit, since one of my friends asked me what order I will show them to my kids. The first time they are shown to someone, they should be shown 4-5-6-1-2-3. Anytime after that, 1-2-3-4-5-6.

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Poor Jake Lloyd, I'd have to say he fires off the two worst lines in the history of Star Wars, at least delivery-wise:

 

"I was glad to have met you too!"

 

"Master Qui-Gon, sir, I heard Yoda talking about medicilorians...I was wondering, what ARE medicilorians?"

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oh, and I'd show the series to my kid in chronological order and just explain the way I watched it and the differences between the surprising revelation of Darth Vader telling Luke he was his father as opposed to knowing all along...

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Honestly, I can't imagine watching the films 1-2-3-4-5-6 for the first time, because, as someone said, I don't think you'd get through the first two before you'd start to think that the movies were crap.

 

And also, it totally kills the Vader being Luke's father bit, because you'd already know that. Actually, shit, depending on how they do RotS, you may even know that Luke has a twin too - which would make the scene where Leia kisses him just a bit more disturbing.

 

While I think of it...what was Leia princess of exactly, and how did she get to be princess of that? Was she adopted by the royal family or something? I can't imagine that she's considered to be of the same royal family as Amidala...unless Vader and the Emperor are really, really fucking stupid.

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Well, Bail Organa adapts her, perhaps at that point he is more than just a whatever-the-heck he was in Episode 2...so hence she is a princess...

 

I think if you explain to the kid that they don't know that they are brother/sister, they'll understand and not just say "ewwwww they're kissing!"

 

As far as us already knowing about Vader, even though it's not quite as impacftful (is that a word?), it's still effective enough seeing Luke's reaction when he is told...

 

I guess it's all really a matter of perspective...I mean, by the times our kids are old enough to watch and understand Star Wars, they're gonna think the whole series is as corny as any other old Sci-Fi series WE find corny i.e. Lost In Space, Battlestar Gallactica, Star Trek, various movies, etc. So they may not get through the first 2 Episodes regardless of how bad WE think they are...

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Poor Jake Lloyd, I'd have to say he fires off the two worst lines in the history of Star Wars, at least delivery-wise:

 

"I was glad to have met you too!"

 

"Master Qui-Gon, sir, I heard Yoda talking about medicilorians...I was wondering, what ARE medicilorians?"

Don't forget "Let's try spinning! That's a good trick!".

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I guess it's all really a matter of perspective...I mean, by the times our kids are old enough to watch and understand Star Wars, they're gonna think the whole series is as corny as any other old Sci-Fi series WE find corny i.e. Lost In Space, Battlestar Gallactica, Star Trek, various movies, etc. So they may not get through the first 2 Episodes regardless of how bad WE think they are...

Yeah, I dunno how you'd explain that these are meant to be a "modern-day" take on the old serials.

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Poor Jake Lloyd, I'd have to say he fires off the two worst lines in the history of Star Wars, at least delivery-wise:

 

"I was glad to have met you too!"

 

"Master Qui-Gon, sir, I heard Yoda talking about medicilorians...I was wondering, what ARE medicilorians?"

Don't forget "Let's try spinning! That's a good trick!".

"Are you an angel?" and "I'm a person and my name is Anakin" were pretty bad too. And there's also Anakin gleefully saying "yippee" several times.

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Honestly, I can't imagine watching the films 1-2-3-4-5-6 for the first time, because, as someone said, I don't think you'd get through the first two before you'd start to think that the movies were crap.

If you showed your kid the movies when he was around 11-14, I don't think he would be smart enough to realize how bad the movie is. Remember all of the movies you liked as a kid, like Mighty Ducks for example, that really suck when you got older.

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I never liked the Mighty Ducks.

 

And I still like most of the movies I really liked as a kid.

 

Keep in mind too, the new trilogy is a LOT of politicing and backstage dealings. Would little kids enjoy/understand that kind of stuff to even really get the movies? Hell, I don't think *I* really get chunks of the new movies.

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Honestly, I can't imagine watching the films 1-2-3-4-5-6 for the first time, because, as someone said, I don't think you'd get through the first two before you'd start to think that the movies were crap.

 

And also, it totally kills the Vader being Luke's father bit, because you'd already know that. Actually, shit, depending on how they do RotS, you may even know that Luke has a twin too - which would make the scene where Leia kisses him just a bit more disturbing.

My thoughts exactly.

 

While I think of it...what was Leia princess of exactly, and how did she get to be princess of that? Was she adopted by the royal family or something? I can't imagine that she's considered to be of the same royal family as Amidala...unless Vader and the Emperor are really, really fucking stupid.

 

She was princess of Alderaan. How she became a part of the royal family of Alderaan is explained in Episode 3.

 

Amidala dies in child birth and Yoda decides the twins need to be separated in order to remain hidden from the Emperor. Bail Organa, one of the few Senators still sympathetic to the Jedi, adopts Leia. Luke is taken by Obi-Wan to Anakin's stepbrother Owen to live on Tatooine.

 

Of course, a lot of that was already explained in Return of the Jedi.

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If you showed your kid the movies when he was around 11-14, I don't think he would be smart enough to realize how bad the movie is. Remember all of the movies you liked as a kid, like Mighty Ducks for example, that really suck when you got older.

Most Disney sports movies suck when you realize that they follow the exact same formula.

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as a matter of fact, didn't all 3 Duck movies follow the exact same formula?

 

Bad team forms, they band together and become a good team, there's a falling out somewhere be it with coaches or with players, they suck again briefly, they pull it all together in the end to overcome enormous odds...

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as a matter of fact, didn't all 3 Duck movies follow the exact same formula?

 

Bad team forms, they band together and become a good team, there's a falling out somewhere be it with coaches or with players, they suck again briefly, they pull it all together in the end to overcome enormous odds...

Off the top of my head, Cool Runnings and Angels in the Outfield also followed that formula, although surprisingly they didn't win the gold in Cool Runnings. Even Remember The Titans followed the formula minus the "bad team" first act.

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without the originals as background to make connections to........ the prequels would suck ass (or, suck more ass than they do, for those who already hate them).

 

If I ever show them to anyone new, it's 456123. You need to already be a SW fan to get into the prequels.

 

I actually had a friend who had never seen a SW movie, he had always kinda ignored them as "geek stuff", one day he got curious so i loaned him ANH, 2 days later he was raving about how awesome the movie was and i loaned him ESB and ROTJ. after that he rented TPM, and without any preconceived notions, the first thing he said was "its ok but not even in the same league as the other three." That to me sums it up completely. Those people who think that TPM would be as loved as ANH if it came out in 77 are crazy.

I mean really... take out the connections to the OT and think... is there really anything about TPM that makes you want to see more? Would you even care who the shadowy guy in the cloak is if you didnt know about the emperor? would you give a crap about this bratty annoying shit if you didnt know he was Darth Vader? come on now. wtf is the force?

 

once you're already a fan, i think going 1 to 6 would be a fun thing to try, but the only way i'd do that with a newbie is... if I DIDN'T want them to be a SW fan.

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Bad team forms, they band together and become a good team, there's a falling out somewhere be it with coaches or with players, they suck again briefly, they pull it all together in the end to overcome enormous odds...

That's every clichéd sports movie in cinema history

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Jesus, Leia is one lucky bitch.

 

She's born into royalty, but when that family gets fucked, she's adopted by royalty. Weird.

 

is there really anything about TPM that makes you want to see more? Would you even care who the shadowy guy in the cloak is if you didnt know about the emperor? would you give a crap about this bratty annoying shit if you didnt know he was Darth Vader?

 

EXACTLY. Unless you already know that he grows up to be one of the most evil people in the galaxy, there's not much interest in the character.

 

Remember, there's probably a good reason that Lucas started with Episode 4 himself.

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i read in ew that starting in 2007 all six movies will be rereleased in movie theatres in 3-D format. YES, ALL 6 MOVIES WILL BE IN 3-D IN 2007.

 

lucas knows how to get EVERYONE'S money. i salute him.

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Remember, there's probably a good reason that Lucas started with Episode 4 himself.

Lucas said in an interview that he started with Episode IV, because Episodes I-III were the "boring political stuff", and that it didn't get really good until Episode IV.

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lucas knows how to get EVERYONE'S money.

 

Nah.

 

If he was REALLY smart, he'd release the movies in their original form, NOW, since everyone already bought the re-done ones, and SW geeks would buy them again anyway.

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Remember, there's probably a good reason that Lucas started with Episode 4 himself.

"Episode IV" only came into play after Star Wars became a huge hit.

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lucas knows how to get EVERYONE'S money.

 

Nah.

 

If he was REALLY smart, he'd release the movies in their original form, NOW, since everyone already bought the re-done ones, and SW geeks would buy them again anyway.

 

No, he will release eight more special edition sets and then he'll tease the original set each time. The SW fans will act upset but they will keep shoveling out the money for the special editions so they don't upset George and risk losing their original edition set.

 

Lucas isn't stupid. He knows he could hire a large staff of people to just take dumps in a box, label it Chewbacca droppings with a Star Wars logo and the fans would sell it out in minutes.

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