Guest Catcher8C Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 The way I see it is that they will do it one of two ways. 1. Hassan will beat HBK with help from Angle, and after that they will gang up on him until Hogan makes the save; he challenges Hassan to one last match at Wrestlemania. 2. At the Hall of Fame ceremony, WWE takes a creative jab at TNA and has Hassan take Jarrett's spot from months ago in Japan? Since it appears that this match/confrontation will happen, do you think there is any chance Hogan will be on RAW tonight?
Guest LooneyTune Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 If Hogan actually does wrestle on Wrestlemania, don't you think WWE would've set it up weeks in advance top pop the buyrate a little for the Hogan marks who would pay to see him? Right now I see it as being a very slim chance with only 6 days to go. Hogan isn't a Viscera or a Chavo Guerrero, who could be added onto a PPV the last week to fill up space and no one would care. That is, unless WWE is completely unorganized with everything going on.
strummer Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 The fact that Hogan's induction is being televised should be an ANGLE ALERT. Throw in the fact that Hogan cut a promo on Hassan on a radio show last week and you know something is going on. I say Hassan interrupts Piper's Pit and either works Hogan or Austin at Backlash
caboose Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 That is, unless WWE is completely unorganized with everything going on. You say it like the WWE is organised.
Slickster Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 I think that blitzing people with a Hogan-Hassan confrontation during the HOF ceremony and then hyping it for 60 minutes on Heat the next night could have a positive influence on the last-minute customers who wait until Heat to decide to get the show.
Slickster Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 The fact that Hogan's induction is being televised should be an ANGLE ALERT. Throw in the fact that Hogan cut a promo on Hassan on a radio show last week and you know something is going on. I say Hassan interrupts Piper's Pit and either works Hogan or Austin at Backlash I don't think Hogan's ego would permit him to miss a potential WM payday/moment of glory just so he can semi-main at a B-level PPV in New Hampshire.
tbondrage99 Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Boy I certinally hope Hogan shows up on Raw! I'll be marking out like nuts if it happens.
Downhome Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 I thought the Hassan was going against MJ at WM. I predicted that Hogan would be confronted by Hassan at that HoF thing on Saturday which would lead to the match the following night, but that was before I knew about MJ showing up.
Promoter Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 I think Hogan/Hassan will happen. I mean we should take everything into account here. Vince must have promised Hogan something to get him to come in for the HOF. I mean seriously, the HOF needs Hogan more than HE needs it. I can see Vince promising Hogan a retirement win over the Arab-American to end his career. The televised HOF is also a red flag. Another thing to consider is Vince promising Hogan his daughter the opening spot of WM with singing America the Beautiful. Now, tell me you guys can't see the hotshot angle with that scenario.
Promoter Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 I thought the Hassan was going against MJ at WM. I predicted that Hogan would be confronted by Hassan at that HoF thing on Saturday which would lead to the match the following night, but that was before I knew about MJ showing up. MJ?
Guest Catcher8C Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 I'll add to this that I think Hassan has more potential than any of the heels WWE has brought in since Orton and Lesnar.
Downhome Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 If Hogan/Hass happens, I truly hope none of you think it will REALLY be Hogan's last match/retirement. I wouldn't even be surprised to see Hogan win a world title again some time down the road.
Promoter Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Oh, I thought Vince pulled another coup and got Michael Jackson to sing at the event in LA. Now that would be too funny.
Promoter Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 If Hogan/Hass happens, I truly hope none of you think it will REALLY be Hogan's last match/retirement. I wouldn't even be surprised to see Hogan win a world title again some time down the road. This depends on Vince obviously. He seems to only have made this business decision for Hogan to legitimize the HOF. That is why I think they have given the promotion of matches to the current roster instead of pushing another Hogan comeback match which would steal the thunder. Sometimes Vince is ridiculous, but sometimes he does make good business moves. However, I can see Vince trying to squeeze Hogan/Austin out of this with Hogan talking about that match outselling WM 3.
Taker666 Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 I thought the Hassan was going against MJ at WM. I predicted that Hogan would be confronted by Hassan at that HoF thing on Saturday which would lead to the match the following night, but that was before I knew about MJ showing up. MJ? Micheal Jackson? A Hussan Vs Jackson match would be interesting.
NoCalMike Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 I don't like the scenario though of "Hassan jobs, then challenges Hogan" I mean, if Hassan is going to get a match with someone of "Hogan's Calibur" at WM, shouldn't it come after a big win that somehow at least lets him prove his point that he should get a spot on the card?
MillenniumMan831 Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Marty Jannetty Ding ding ding. It's not Mark Jindrak?
Downhome Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 I don't like the scenario though of "Hassan jobs, then challenges Hogan" I mean, if Hassan is going to get a match with someone of "Hogan's Calibur" at WM, shouldn't it come after a big win that somehow at least lets him prove his point that he should get a spot on the card? What would be wrong with Angle costing HBK the match against Hassan tonight? It would continue the push of the Angle/HBK feud as well as give Hassan that "big" win to push him. I do want Hogan on RAW tonight, I am always willing to see the guy on TV, but I don't think we should see him until that thing on Saturday. If they do the angle there it will look more "real". It would be retarded to have him come out tonight, after not being on WWE TV in a very long time. Have Hassan show up at the show on Saturday complaining about not having a match at WM, as well as bragging about beating HBK, a future hall of famer. That would work fine to me.
Hunter's Torn Quad Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Hogan isn't going to appear on Raw tonight, unless Vince really has become a mark for the pop. You only get one shot at Hogan's big return to WWE programming, and they aren't going to ruin it by not advertising it ahead of time.
Guest Fook Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 They need to save Hogan's appearances. He has a very short shelf life at this point. And the Hogan/Hassan deal at WM need not be an actual match. Just have Hassan come out and claim that he doesn't have a WM match because everyone's scared of him. Have him run down the US until Real American hits and Hogan appears (to an undoubtably monster pop). Then Hogan cuts a promo on Hassan until Hassan and Duvari attack him. Hulk up time, big boot, legdrop, celebration. If they want an actual match between the two, save it for a future show where there's time to build up.
Hunter's Torn Quad Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 And the Hogan/Hassan deal at WM need not be an actual match. Just have Hassan come out and claim that he doesn't have a WM match because everyone's scared of him. Have him run down the US until Real American hits and Hogan appears (to an undoubtably monster pop). Then Hogan cuts a promo on Hassan until Hassan and Duvari attack him. Hulk up time, big boot, legdrop, celebration. If they want an actual match between the two, save it for a future show where there's time to build up. If Hassan and Davari get beaten up by Hogan, then where's the lure of a singles match ? Hogan just showed he could beat them both up on his own. If they want to set up a match between Hassan and Hogan, they need to decide before WM, and then set it up by having Hassan lay Hogan out.
Slickster Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Fook, I don't know why you couldn't do your scenario, just make it a short impromptu match. I'm not sure Hogan would go along with this if he couldn't get another WM win.
Hunter's Torn Quad Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Why waste Hogan's first match back in some kind of unadvertised inpromptu affair ? Have a confrontation, sure, but don't do anything resembling a match without hyping it like crazy.
JoeDirt Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Why waste Hogan's first match back in some kind of unadvertised inpromptu affair ? Have a confrontation, sure, but don't do anything resembling a match without hyping it like crazy. Hell I could see them hyping it all the way to Summerslam. Nation's capital (so it makes sense with a Hogan/Hassan feud and for a "retirement" match for Hogan), gives Hogan time to get into shape for it, and plenty of time to hype it to get a big buyrate. Definitely don't do an impromptu return match with Hogan at Mania, that just doesn't make sense.
Slickster Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 Like I said, HTQ, Hogan-Hassan is probably the best way to get on-the-fence fans to order the show at the last minute. Hype this match (made the night before during the HOF ceremony) and it will make a difference. Hogan marks still exist, but their interest is pretty short-lived (see Hogan's last 2 tenures in WWE). Also, to give this match any long-term build would mean: -paying Hogan to go on the road -dealing with Egomania running wild -making younger talent job to Hogan YET AGAIN -somehow making Hassan look like a threat when he's been HTM 2005 since he debuted -and convincing Hogan to be the semi-main on a B-level PPV in New Hampshire (an unproven market for hosting PPVs). I'm sure Hogan would want the money to do all this, but I think that a long build would become tiring quickly concerning the weaknesses of the parties involved. I think this could be best served as a quick angle and a quick win for Hogan. Boom, instant 'WrestleMania Moment.'
Hunter's Torn Quad Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 No match hyped for 24 hrs will make much of a difference. You get the most from a match by hyping it for weeks, not hours. Besides, you've already got Austin returning to pop a buy rate boost. Why waste Hogan's return, when you can save it and build to it on a PPV that really does need the help ?
Slickster Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 No match hyped for 24 hrs will make much of a difference. You get the most from a match by hyping it for weeks, not hours. Besides, you've already got Austin returning to pop a buy rate boost. Why waste Hogan's return, when you can save it and build to it on a PPV that really does need the help ? "Also, to give this match any long-term build would mean: -paying Hogan to go on the road -dealing with Egomania running wild -making younger talent job to Hogan YET AGAIN -somehow making Hassan look like a threat when he's been HTM 2005 since he debuted -and convincing Hogan to be the semi-main on a B-level PPV in New Hampshire (an unproven market for hosting PPVs)." Hogan marks still exist, but their interest is pretty short-lived (see Hogan's last 2 tenures in WWE).
Hunter's Torn Quad Posted March 29, 2005 Report Posted March 29, 2005 No match hyped for 24 hrs will make much of a difference. You get the most from a match by hyping it for weeks, not hours. Besides, you've already got Austin returning to pop a buy rate boost. Why waste Hogan's return, when you can save it and build to it on a PPV that really does need the help ? "Also, to give this match any long-term build would mean: -paying Hogan to go on the road -dealing with Egomania running wild -making younger talent job to Hogan YET AGAIN -somehow making Hassan look like a threat when he's been HTM 2005 since he debuted -and convincing Hogan to be the semi-main on a B-level PPV in New Hampshire (an unproven market for hosting PPVs)." -paying Hogan to go on the road: Hogan wouldn't want to go on the road, so that's that sorted. -dealing with Egomania running wild You're going to get that no matter what you do. The best bet to deal with it is just to keep Hogan confined to doing stuff involving Hassan, and nothing else. -making younger talent job to Hogan YET AGAIN So don't have him wrestle the younger talent. He shouldn't anyway, because each Hogan match means a little less than the last one. Keep him confined to angles and promo's, leaving his matches for the PPV's that get built to to make money. -somehow making Hassan look like a threat when he's been HTM 2005 since he debuted They can deal with that in one fell swoop at WM by having him lay both Austin and Piper out. As of last word, Hassan was going to interrupt the Piper's Pit segment, and if they are still going to push Hassan to mean anything, this will show it. -and convincing Hogan to be the semi-main on a B-level PPV in New Hampshire (an unproven market for hosting PPVs)." He didn't mind being a semi-main event at Judgement Day in 2003, for a match that had 3 days build up. The best thing for business is to build to a Hogan match. It's just that simple.
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