The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 Baseball isn't as bad as the NBA in terms of blaming a three-game losing streak on the coaches. However, it's inevitable that a few managers won't make it to the end of September? Who is relieved first? My guess is Willie Randolph of the Mets. If Minaya's super-loaded super-West Indian Mets are in the cellar too long, Randolph will take the fall. It won't be Dusty. He'll finish the year and then go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 Clint Hurdle or Tony Pena. Even, though both teams suck. Neither is a very good manager. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 I've heard lots of Llyod McClendon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy Dunlop 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 It won't be Dusty, he's protected by HOLY WATER. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 Hmm. McClendon is in his 5th year, they may be ready to cut him loose. I'd venture to say the rest of the NL Central managers look pretty safe. Even Dusty. What about Frank Robinson? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 MLB would get alot of bad press if they cut Robinson and besides, he has an excuse (not enough talent). Same with Willie Randolph. Cutting a manager less than a few months into his job because he didn't win right away with a club that isn't that good (plus that his hiring was considered a big step towards hiring more minorities) would be disasterous. I think Lloyd McClendon is probably the least likely to keep his job through the season, followed by Clint Hurdle. I can't see anyone else axed unless their team takes a downward spiral. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 I thought maybe if the new ownership takes effect during the season, they might replace Robinson. I dunno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 I thought maybe if the new ownership takes effect during the season, they might replace Robinson. I dunno. That's possible, but the sellers are the same people who assured us Montreal was moving four years ago. I would think if they did sell the team, the new owners would not want to shake up things suddenly and publicly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 I'd go with Hurdle or McClendon. It doesn't matter much with their teams, though -- they're going to suck no matter what. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 I thought maybe if the new ownership takes effect during the season, they might replace Robinson. I dunno. That's possible, but the sellers are the same people who assured us Montreal was moving four years ago. I would think if they did sell the team, the new owners would not want to shake up things suddenly and publicly. You're right. And canning a Baltimore legend wouldn't go over well in that area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 I thought maybe if the new ownership takes effect during the season, they might replace Robinson. I dunno. That's possible, but the sellers are the same people who assured us Montreal was moving four years ago. I would think if they did sell the team, the new owners would not want to shake up things suddenly and publicly. You're right. And canning a Baltimore legend wouldn't go over well in that area. As someone from the area, trust me the 2 populations don't mix sports wise. So if Robinson is canned, Baltimore fans won't care because most don't care about the Nationals and if Washington fans are upset about it, it won't be because he's a Baltimore legend when most of the fans see The Orioles as Satan's evil team that had prevented their beloved Senators from coming back. Anyway, yeah Lloyd Mclendon is a great guess. I can see Lou Pinella resigning too (or being fired for beating one of his players to death in a fit of rage ) The buzz is Angelos has Mazzilli on a short leash, but I think the O's will be ok and Angelos doesn't have a history of firing managers mid season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 Yeah, if the O's somehow went 70-92 or something, Mazzilli would get the boot, but the way things are looking, the Orioles should end up over .500 this year. That would be more enough to keep things sailing smoothly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 but the way things are looking, the Orioles should end up over .500 this year. How many years have we said that now? But, yeah I agree we should... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2005 but the way things are looking, the Orioles should end up over .500 this year. How many years have we said that now? But, yeah I agree we should... The only way the O's finish above .500 is Sammy actually gets close to the plate. The way he keeps moving away from the plate, he'll be taking his swings from the on deck circle by mid season. I think Lloyd is on burrowed time. He's not exactly been Mr. Stable when it comes to his explosions. But I like Lloyd and want him to stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 Depending on how things go, I wouldn't be surprised to see Torre walk away after this season. I don't think it will happen, but wouldn't surprise me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 I wouldn't mind seeing Macha get the boot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2005 I thought Beane liked Macha for buying into sabermetrics better than Howe or sometihng Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2005 Pena is gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2005 Pena resigned at random. One rumor claims that Pena was sleeping with married women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2005 Whatever gets your mind off the fact that you manage the Kansas City Royals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2005 From ESPN.com.... KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Tony Pena resigned as manager of the Kansas City Royals on Tuesday night, less than two seasons after he was the American League manager of the year. Pena stepped down just hours after the Royals lost 3-1 to the Blue Jays in Toronto, falling to a major league-worst 8-25. Team spokesman Aaron Babcock said Pena would be replaced on an interim basis by bench coach Bob Schaefer, the first managerial change in the major leagues this season. "I feel that at this time we have not played to the top of our abilities," Pena said in a statement released by the team. "The Kansas City Royals are on the right track by committing to their young players, and I believe the Royals will be contenders for a long time if they don't change their direction." The Royals were one of baseball's biggest surprises in 2003, Pena's first full season in charge. They went 83-79 and contended into September before finishing third in the AL Central, earning Pena manager of the year honors. It was the team's first winning season since 1994. Kansas City hoped to challenge for the division crown last season but got off to a terrible start and traded star center fielder Carlos Beltran in June. The Royals wound up losing a team-record 104 games. Just two weeks ago, Pena was given a vote of confidence by owner David Glass and general manager Allard Baird, who said Pena would be the manager for the rest of the season. Baird said Pena will be offered a position within the organization. "Tony has a great passion for this organization. I am glad that he will continue to remain a part of the Royals," Baird said. "He has played a major role in the development of our young players. Under Tony's leadership, he has positioned many of our young players to be the foundation for the further success of the organization. Despite our early-season struggles, this team has battled with an intensity that reflects Tony's personality." Hampered by a tight budget, the once-proud Royals have not appeared in the postseason since winning the 1985 World Series. The team had the second-lowest Opening Day payroll in the majors this season at $36.9 million, ahead of only Tampa Bay. A five-time All-Star catcher during his 18-year playing career, Pena was a coach with Houston when the Royals chose him to replace the fired Tony Muser early in the 2002 season. "There are good people and good teachers working in this organization, from the front office all the way to the bottom. I wish this team and the fans the very best," Pena said. The 60-year-old Schaefer was interim manager of the Royals for one game in 1991 between the firing of John Wathan and the hiring of Hal McRae. "We'll take as long as we need to hire a new manager," Baird said. "The timetable to fill this position is secondary to finding the right individual to manage this ballclub." The way this team is going, the best position the Royals could offer is starting catcher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2005 Clint Hurdle or Tony Pena. Even, though both teams suck. Neither is a very good manager. What the hell is Colorado waiting for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2005 http://www.pitch.com/issues/current/news/feature2.html Together We Can't Tony Peña accused of adulterous affair in divorce suit. BY TONY ORTEGA [email protected] Wednesday, May 11 Kelly J. Locke, a Kansas City North realtor who works in Gladstone, has confirmed to the Pitch that he subpoenaed former Kansas City Royals manager Tony Peña to testify in his pending divorce trial because he believes that Peña had an affair with his wife, Monica A. Locke, and that the relationship contributed to the marriage’s breakup. Peña, 47, resigned abruptly as manager of the Royals Tuesday night in Toronto following a 3-1 loss that lowered the team’s league-worst record to 8 wins and 25 losses. The resignation came just hours before Peña was commanded by the subpoena to appear in Clay County Circuit Court in Liberty with documents requested by Kelly Locke. Peña’s attorney, Edward Ford III, filed a motion May 4 to quash the subpoena, arguing that it was unreasonable to ask Peña to appear in a Missouri court when he was on the road with the team. Circuit Judge Elizabeth Davis had not ruled on the motion as of Wednesday morning. Peña has refused to comment on the subpoena and could not be reached for comment today. Club vice president Mark Gorris did not return a call from the Pitch. Peña has been replaced by Royals bench coach Bob Schaefer, who will act as interim manager. Property records show that Peña and his wife, Amaris Peña, were neighbors of the Lockes in Kansas City North. In June 2004, the Peñas purchased a new home in another neighborhood. Last November, the couple sold the house that was about a block from the Locke home. This past January, the Lockes filed for divorce. In March, Monica Locke, 33, claimed in court papers that Kelly Locke, 32, had “physically abused” her and had, on March 21, “threatened to kill” her at their home. The couple are parents of a 5-year-old boy and 2-year-old triplets. In late April, Kelly Locke subpoenaed three witnesses in the case, which is scheduled to go to trial on June 27. Court records indicate that at least one of those witnesses appeared in court and was deposed by Kelly Locke’s attorney, David Sexton. Monica Locke also was deposed, according to the court record. Sexton tells the Pitch that, in her deposition, Monica Locke admitted to the affair with Peña. Neither Monica Locke nor her attorney, Thomas Capps, returned phone calls from the Pitch. According to the motion Ford filed to quash Peña’s subpoena, the former Royals manager was asked to show up in court this morning with “(1) Any and all correspondence including, but not limited to, e-mails, letters, and notes from Monica Locke from January 1, 2003, to the present; and (2) his cell phone bills from January 1, 2003, to the present.” Peña’s attorney argued that the Royals would be in Toronto today and that Peña had already offered to be “available for deposition when the Royals are in town, to testify and bring whatever documents he may have. This offer was rejected by [Kelly Locke’s] attorney.” Ford argued that Peña’s testimony was of questionable relevance anyway, writing that whatever Locke hoped to “obtain from Tony Peña can be obtained directly from [Monica Locke], as evidenced by her interrogatory answers.” Yesterday, the Pitch reached Kelly Locke at his office and asked him to confirm that he’d subpoenaed Peña because he believed that Peña had engaged in an affair with Monica Locke. “I can confirm that,” Locke responded. Asked if he believed the affair had contributed to his divorce, Locke replied, “Yes.” He declined to comment further. This morning, Locke again refused to detail what evidence he has that the affair took place. “It will all come out in court,” he said. “That’s why, in my opinion, Tony Peña quit his job.” Peña became manager of the Royals on May 15, 2002. After the 2003 season, during which the Royals compiled an 83-79 record, the American League named Peña its Manager of the Year. His record over two full and two partial seasons was 198 wins and 285 losses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2005 but the way things are looking, the Orioles should end up over .500 this year. How many years have we said that now? But, yeah I agree we should... Sometimes a little pessimism goes a long way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2005 Dave Miley = gone I wonder if Phil Garner's time is almost up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just John 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2005 As an Astros fan, I would be somewhat disappointed if they didn't at least let Garner finish the season. I mean, he lost Beltran, Kent, and Bagwell. No amount of good managing is going to cushion that kind of blow to your hitting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2005 No amount of good managing is going to come from Phil Garner, either. He can't handle a double switch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2005 In hockey news, the Blackhawks fired Brian Sutter. As if zero wins were his fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
