Howard Stern's a tool

[nl5xsk1 0]

Not to state the obviously, but my first thought after reading this thread:

 

Stern fans believe his "the gov't is out to get me" spiel, non fans do not.

 

I personally stopped liking him when he got into his "every other radio show & TV show in the world is a copy of something that I've done" phase. The little bit that I've listened to is even worse, as now that's mixed in with his "I hate Bush, America is doomed, blah blah wah wah" rhetoric. Yes, the censorship people got on his ass, but I really doubt that the FCC is really concerned with Stern as an individual, in comparison to being concerned with the all-encompassing decline in civilized entertainment on the radio. My life is not any worse because I can't hear the word "blowjob" on the radio while driving to work.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

there still hasn't been a satisfactory answer as to why this is anything resembling news or worthy of a thread.

I'm sure that could be the case with a good many threads in this folder.

 

 

DEVELOPING...

[2GOLD 0]

I stopped listening to Stern when he got divorced. Then he just started acting like the drunk uncle at a wedding hitting on his younger cousins and his niece. It just a chuckle out of me for awhile then it became "wow, this guy isn't even close to funny anymore...the hell?"

[Vyce 0]

Howard Stern is a hypocrite. You idiots thing he is this "champion of free speech." He had a gag order put on Opie and Anthony and Don and Mike in 2000 and if they said his name on the air, they'd be fired. He's as bad as the FCC.

This is true.

 

And kkk is right. Stern's show has become pretty much unlistenable since he began the Bush-bashing, because the only time he was ever amusing anymore was when he talking about current events / the news, and once the Bush stuff began, that got dominated by nothing but Howard's typical pity party.

 

I personally stopped liking him when he got into his "every other radio show & TV show in the world is a copy of something that I've done" phase.

 

YES.

 

And this is made all the worse if you ever hear any of his old "Best of Stern" shows when he takes one of his many, many, many vacations during the year. They'll play some segment from his show from the early 90s, where's he goofing on, for example, Don Imus. And if you listen closely to all of the insults he throws at Imus, you realize that everything he supposedly railed against Imus and other DJs for being, he has now become himself. He has become the thing he supposedly hated.

 

Going to you to find out whats funny is like asking Mary Chapin Carpenter where to find a really good rib joint.

 

Huh?

 

I'm assuming you mean Karen Carpenter, who was anorexic (or bulimic, I forget which), and died because of it. Mary Chapin Carpenter is a country music singer and isn't very thin at all.

 

 

See? She's not gigantic, but I think she probably could point you to a decent rib joint or two.

[Guest MikeSC]

How many stations is he on? Does it even number 50?

46

 

 

So that's a no. Got it. If he was such a money-maker, you'd assume more stations would sign him.

Hmm, biggest radio deal in history. More listerners than Stern.

Howard signed for 500 million with Sirius, Rush signed dfor 250 million.

350 for 10. But I was unaware Sirius was so horribly overpaying him. Oh well.

As far as listeners, Rush gets more because every right wing assclown in the universe listens to him. However Stern dominates the key 18-34 ratings in nearly every market he's in.

Ah, Rush's listeners are assclowns --- but Stern's AREN'T? BWA HA HA HA!

It's not technology. It's looking at E!'s horrid ratings.

Do you have any site that shows these horrid ratings?

Ever notice than when the top 15 cable shows are listed, Stern is NEVER on the list?

 

Didn't think so.

You are definitely right about that, but he toned down his show so much because of those fines. You cannot deny that they have been on him hard(much harder than anyone else in the media)

CBS would likely disagree. Vehemently so.

-=Mike

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

One thing I will give the nod to in regards to Stern over Rush is that Howard is in a much tougher market -- morning rush hour drive. What else is on from noon-3 p.m.?

 

And I didn't know about the "Opie gag order." Got a source for this? Oh, hold on a sec while I make my request official.

 

OMG SOURCE PLZ...

[Guest MikeSC]

One thing I will give the nod to in regards to Stern over Rush is that Howard is in a much tougher market -- morning rush hour drive. What else is on from noon-3 p.m.?

In Rush's defense, who listened to the radio between 12-3 before Rush came up? People are in their cars regardless for morning drive time.

-=Mike

[Some Guy 0]

I too used to listen to Stern until he started with his anti-Bush drivel. I was actually listening to him while driving to college on 9/11/01.

 

As far as Stern's relevance and popularity: It has declined steadily over the years. I'd be willing to bet that he gets very few new fans and the ones he has/had are leaving him. He has done the same show for 20 years. The "shock" is gone, scatological humor can be funny on occasion but 4 straight hours of it wrapped around "Bush is Hitler!" is way too much for me to take.

 

The E! show, last I saw (a few years ago) pulled the highest rating on E! but it was only like a .7 or something.

 

He got a Saturday night slot opposite SNL on CBS a few years ago and it was mercy killed pretty quickly. Stern of course blamed the network for his failiure. The show was the same as the E! show, just longer and had newer stuff. The network didn't cause people to not watch. His show did.

 

Stern has almost no cross over appeal because he refuses to reach out to over people. He caters to degenerates and perverts for the most part. I don't have a problem with it and I was at one point a degenerate and a pervert. I don't give a shit if he's on or not.

 

BTW, the person who compared Rush not getting fined to Stern. First off, Rush (who I'm not a huge fan off) does not have years of code violations, second off he appeals to an adult audience, and thirdly he's been attacked more ruthlessly by his political rivals than Stern had been by his. I don't recall anyone blaming the OK City bombing on Stern, Clinton and his minions tried to blame it on Rush, who as we know was a leader in the "Vast Right Wing Conspirisy."

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Mike, I agree regarding the 12-3 time slot, but it still doesn't take away from the fact Stern is in a tougher time slot.

 

And I'm sure a BUTT-load of cable shows would kill for a .7 rating. Stern has his niche, makes money and that's it.

 

I miss the old Stern who would actually make good points regarding current events. I'll never forget the video of him at Pataki's inaguration ceremony back in the mid-90s...

[Guest MikeSC]

Mike, I agree regarding the 12-3 time slot, but it still doesn't take away from the fact Stern is in a tougher time slot.

I disagree, because Stern has a captive audience to begin with. Rush had to invent an audience out of nothing.

-=Mike

[Fuzzy Dunlop 0]

You guys, Mancow's Morning Madhouse is like a million times better than Stern, and Mancow will be going national on free radio by the end of the summer. Already, in every city he shares with Stern, Mancow's more popular, and the FCC is on him way worse.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I disagree, because Stern has a captive audience to begin with. Rush had to invent an audience out of nothing.

 

Can I axe you why you think Stern has a captive audience when all they have to do is change the channel?

 

Mancow is going national? That means in 15 years he'll be heard in Pittsburgh...

[Guest MikeSC]

I disagree, because Stern has a captive audience to begin with. Rush had to invent an audience out of nothing.

 

Can I axe you why you think Stern has a captive audience when all they have to do is change the channel?

 

Mancow is going national? That means in 15 years he'll be heard in Pittsburgh...

Rush had to get people to turn the radio between 12-3, when people, as a rule, didn't do so.

 

And political talk radio is still a growing medium. Shock talk is not.

-=Mike

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

But back then there really wasn't anyone like Rush, so he had an untapped market. And thanks for no-selling my cross-folder reference.

 

*hurls phone...*

[bob_barron 0]

I've been to listening to Howard since I was 4 years old so I always have a soft spot for him.

 

A lot of the appeal of his show is gone after he divorced Allison in 1999. I always loved that this guy has this raunchy as hell radio show and did whatever he want, but when he went home he was a typical family man. Now that's shattered and the appeal is gone.

 

The guy did a great interview on Letterman in November. It wasn't the 'Oh-woe is me' stuff that he does on the radio, but him and Dave actually had a good intelligent discussion over what's going on with him

[Fuzzy Dunlop 0]

I've been to listening to Howard since I was 4 years old

Wow, no wonder you're so fucked up. Why didn't someone call DCFS?

[Vyce 0]

He got a Saturday night slot opposite SNL on CBS a few years ago and it was mercy killed pretty quickly. Stern of course blamed the network for his failiure. The show was the same as the E! show, just longer and had newer stuff. The network didn't cause people to not watch. His show did.

 

Very true. A lot of people had a good buzz about that show before it aired, because many figured it'd be much like his old "Channel 9" show - which actually aired, briefly I believe, in syndication in D.C. way back when. The Channel 9 show was great, and showcased how funny Howard could be. But then this show debuted and it was just an hour-long version of his E! show, which was not only a disappointment but showed how lazy he'd gotten.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

I heard that the only reason Stern went to Siruis, aside from the fact that Sirus was stupid enough to give him a 500 million contract, was that O&A went with XM first and he hates them or something.

 

Slightly off topic, but Sirus will probably be bankrupt in 2 years and then Stern, having burned all his bridges with radio, will be off the air. Or, he'll be on XM after they buy out Sirius..

 

Sirius put out too much money for Stern, the NFL, to take NASCAR away from XM, and etc, and they are depending on people signing up and paying $13/month to hear Stern, and I doubt they will.

[Guest MikeSC]

Well, they might have a huge cash benefactor to prop them up.

 

It wouldn't be the first time somebody rich props up something people just don't want that much (see Air America Radio)

-=Mike

[UZI Suicide 0]

So that's a no. Got it. If he was such a money-maker, you'd assume more stations would sign him.

 

It's a little bit easier to syndicate a show like Rush's than it is a show like Howard's. He's still on, and leading, in every major media market. Just because he's not on in a bunch more little small towns in every state doesn't mean anything.

 

350 for 10. But I was unaware Sirius was so horribly overpaying him. Oh well.

 

Horribly overpaying, LOL, Ok. Stern's contract is bigger, period.

 

Ah, Rush's listeners are assclowns --- but Stern's AREN'T? BWA HA HA HA!

 

I never said they aren't, but at least they realize they are assclowns. Rush's fans don't realize he's just a puppet on a string for Republicans.

 

Ever notice than when the top 15 cable shows are listed, Stern is NEVER on the list?

 

Did you ever notice no E! shows are ever on the list? He's still been the top rated show on E! for a long time now.

 

Sirius put out too much money for Stern, the NFL, to take NASCAR away from XM, and etc, and they are depending on people signing up and paying $13/month to hear Stern, and I doubt they will.

 

He currently has around 12 million listeners and all they need is 1 million to sign up to just cover the cost of his contract, I think they'll get that.

[Guest TDinDC1112]

Opie and Anthony > Howard Stern

 

Much funnier and smarter show.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Am I the only one who's NEVER understood the appeal of "shock jocks" and "radio personalities"?

[Some Guy 0]

So that's a no. Got it. If he was such a money-maker, you'd assume more stations would sign him.

 

It's a little bit easier to syndicate a show like Rush's than it is a show like Howard's. He's still on, and leading, in every major media market. Just because he's not on in a bunch more little small towns in every state doesn't mean anything.

 

Why? Because more people are interested in what Rush has to say than Stern?

 

350 for 10. But I was unaware Sirius was so horribly overpaying him. Oh well.

 

Horribly overpaying, LOL, Ok. Stern's contract is bigger, period.

 

Possibly because they felt they needed to grossly overpay an aging inteclectual adolesant to get him off free radio and to take a chance at a new medium. That would be my guess.

 

Ah, Rush's listeners are assclowns --- but Stern's AREN'T? BWA HA HA HA!

 

I never said they aren't, but at least they realize they are assclowns. Rush's fans don't realize he's just a puppet on a string for Republicans.

 

Umm... Yes they do. Rush is a Republican and makes no bones about it. Although he does disagree with the President fairly often (or did last time I listened to him regualrly, which was last winter/spring).

 

Ever notice than when the top 15 cable shows are listed, Stern is NEVER on the list?

 

Did you ever notice no E! shows are ever on the list? He's still been the top rated show on E! for a long time now.

 

Being the top rated show on a station that no one watches is not all that much of an accomplishment.

 

Sirius put out too much money for Stern, the NFL, to take NASCAR away from XM, and etc, and they are depending on people signing up and paying $13/month to hear Stern, and I doubt they will.

 

He currently has around 12 million listeners and all they need is 1 million to sign up to just cover the cost of his contract, I think they'll get that.

 

Possibly, I think there are enough morons who would pay $13 to listen to Stern for 30 minutes on their way to work.

 

Mike touched on this earlier but the biggest difference between Rush and Stern is that Stern has a much better time slot. People are by and large in their cars while he's on and it's easier to get listeners when they are trapped. Rush has to get people at home to stop what ever they are doing and turn on the radio at noon. That is much harder. Obviously they have vastly different demographics. Rush's audience is mostly made up of older Republicans and Congressional Democrat's aides, Stern's is made up of younger people and adults who, like Stern refuse to grow up intelectually.

[UZI Suicide 0]

Am I the only one who's NEVER understood the appeal of "shock jocks" and "radio personalities"?

I never understood the term "Shock Jock" in the first place. People who don't listen to Howard's show think the entire show is just him talking to lesbian's and strippers, when in fact they hardly ever have either of those on.

[Some Guy 0]

The term is based on the thinking that Stern's show is like Russo's booking. People listen/watch to see what crazy shit will happen next. As opposed to having a consistant and coherant show.

[Vyce 0]

Opie and Anthony > Howard Stern

 

Much funnier and smarter show.

Plus they occasionally have Jim Norton.

 

Which makes them better than anything Stern could ever do.

[Guest TDinDC1112]

Opie and Anthony > Howard Stern

 

Much funnier and smarter show.

Plus they occasionally have Jim Norton.

 

Which makes them better than anything Stern could ever do.

Actually, Jim Norton is on the show every day. He's a part of the show. He misses about 1 show a month for a comedy gig.

[Justice 0]

Opie and Anthony > Howard Stern

 

Much funnier and smarter show.

Plus they occasionally have Jim Norton.

 

Which makes them better than anything Stern could ever do.

This perhaps the best reason stated in the entire thread.

 

Jim Norton = Ratings.

[Guest MikeSC]

So that's a no. Got it. If he was such a money-maker, you'd assume more stations would sign him.

It's a little bit easier to syndicate a show like Rush's than it is a show like Howard's. He's still on, and leading, in every major media market. Just because he's not on in a bunch more little small towns in every state doesn't mean anything.

 

 

Oh, yes, MUCH easier to create an entire genre out of nothing and make it profitable nationally. Yes, that is QUITE an easy feat.

Ah, Rush's listeners are assclowns --- but Stern's AREN'T? BWA HA HA HA!

I never said they aren't, but at least they realize they are assclowns. Rush's fans don't realize he's just a puppet on a string for Republicans.

Nah, Rush is a conservative. There are more than a few Republicans he does not like.

 

He has never been a fan of McCain's.

Ever notice than when the top 15 cable shows are listed, Stern is NEVER on the list?

Did you ever notice no E! shows are ever on the list? He's still been the top rated show on E! for a long time now.

But, but, MILLIONS tune in to Stern every single week. MILLIONS!

 

You said so yourself.

 

And being the top-rated E! show is like being the best black NHL goalie. Not exactly beating out an elite crop.

Sirius put out too much money for Stern, the NFL, to take NASCAR away from XM, and etc, and they are depending on people signing up and paying $13/month to hear Stern, and I doubt they will.

He currently has around 12 million listeners and all they need is 1 million to sign up to just cover the cost of his contract, I think they'll get that.

They actually need markedly more than that, since they also plan to MARKET his show a little.

 

Of course, when Stern's audience doesn't get any bigger --- I wonder who he'll blame now that he doesn't the FCC stopping his incessant discussion of lesbianism.

I never understood the term "Shock Jock" in the first place. People who don't listen to Howard's show think the entire show is just him talking to lesbian's and strippers, when in fact they hardly ever have either of those on.

He's supposed to be a comedian and from what I've heard, he rarely does comedy either.

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Ah, Rush's listeners are assclowns --- but Stern's AREN'T? BWA HA HA HA!

Contrary to that age-old opinions about Republicans in the heartland and Democrats in the big cities (which isn't really true, if you look at a map that counts the popular vote all over the whole country looks rather purple), Rush is carried in more stations in dense cities than he is in the plains and valleys. In many high-density cities, all the major Republican talking heads can be found on many stations.

 

So basically, you hear Rush more and more as things get more dense, yukyuk.