WWE Uncomfortable with Batista as Champion

[Brett Favre 0]

A John Cena/Triple H confrontation would be nice, but that's it. Brining Cena over to RAW and have Triple H kill off possibly the company's next big star isn't going to help. And that's what's going to happen if the switch does occur. It's not so bad with Batista because he's like 56, but Cena is still young; not the time to ruin him now.

[reign 0]

This is bullshit..if they wanted to do this right then they should of left the titles off of Batista and Cena as I have no desire in watching HHH chase Cena AFTER he's already chased Big Dave and the JBL/Batista thing doesn't sound like it would have much steam in a month...plus HHH is just going to do the same thing with Cena. Cena shoulda never beat JBL so that he could have a real feud chasing HHH...now everything is fucked up and the draft won't do a bit of good if Batista ends up on SD! but judging by were this is going(after what Christain said on RAW) Cena is going to RAW..but they have really screwed their new stars on RAW(Orton and Dave) with this obviously shitty booking...and how the hell can anybody not feel good about Dave when they haven't done shit with him...I'm back to hating the son-in-law fuck again..fuck you HHH even if it isn't your fault this time....

[Gary Floyd 0]

are they gonna panic like this every fuckin time HHHorshack doesn't have the belt?  i'm really getting sick of this shit.

If HHH is Horshack, would that make Randy Orton Potsie (I always hated Potsie.)

Horshack was a scrawny geek and was on Welcom Back Kotter!. Potsie's from Happy Days. If anything HHH is like the Fonz.

So i guess he "jumped the shark" once he started fucking Steph

[tominator89 0]

I'd say it was the quad injury.

[Guest FromBeyondTheGrave]

Fuck Triple H, fuck Batista, and fuck John Cena. They're all pretty boring and shitty.

[haVoc 0]

I've been off the radar for a bit. You guys believe Batista and Triple H have had bad chemistry all along or since Batista won the title?

[haVoc 0]

Cut, edit, go to next post.

[Guest MikeSC]

There is one thing to remember:

 

Scherer isn't exactly an unimpeachable source for much of anything.

-=Mike

[Guest Tjhe CyNick]

This is the easiest way to get new matches though.

 

Cena has already worked with JBL, Angle and Eddie, which are the main guys on SD, yes they could make some of those programs fresh again (especially Cena-Eddie), but they have been done.

 

At leats if they were to trade the champs, you'd have pretty much all new matches on both shows.

 

As far as the timing goes, I think the draft will happen right after Judgment Day. Vince made mention that it would happen "in about a month", I believe JD is on May 22, so that fits the time frame. By doing that, they can build up programs on SD for JD, and then start fresh the next night.

 

This is probably good and bad news for Cena. Cena is the guy they want to push, and by being on RAW he gets to be on what the company sees as the top show, and he also gets on NBC, which is a fairly big deal. The downside is that now he'll have to deal with HHH. I'm sure he'll be losing the title to HHH at least once, and we all know HHH doesn't have a great track record when it comes to protecting rising stars. The other positive for Cena is that he can have a little more freedom with his promos, which will help.

 

For Batista I think the move will be great. He gets away from HHH, he gets a whole bunch of new guys he can kill, and then he's even got Angle over there who can carry him to a great match or two on PPV.

[ISportsFan 0]

There is one thing to remember:

 

Scherer isn't exactly an unimpeachable source for much of anything.

-=Mike

I think this news is Keller, not Scherer, but Keller is worse than Scherer so the point holds very true.

 

Jason

[Scroby 0]

To me it doesn't make sense, not just because Batista has only been a champion for less than a month but because of the reasoning, because HHH is on a higher level on the mic than Batista is, umm correct me if i'm wrong, but hasn't JBL been running circles on guys when it comes to the mic lately?

[Guest seth86]

I don't get it. They put enough faith in JBL, a gut who was never over, to carry the title for 10 months, yet they dont think Batista who gets such good reactions can carry the company.

[Guest krazykat72]

I would be surprised if this happened. The draft will be taking place before Judgment Day, and Cena has been featured prominently in both the advertising and booking for that show. The only way they can move him to RAW is by pushing the draft back.

I took "about a month" to probably mean the RAW right after Judgement Day. (5/23).

 

 

 

 

-Paul Jacobi-

[Guest MikeSC]

I don't get it. They put enough faith in JBL, a gut who was never over, to carry the title for 10 months, yet they dont think Batista who gets such good reactions can carry the company.

JBL actually had a damned good gimmick early on and could work the mic exceptionally well.

 

Just because smarks hated him didn't mean he was inept in those areas.

-=Mike

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

This is the easiest way to get new matches though.

 

Cena has already worked with JBL, Angle and Eddie, which are the main guys on SD, yes they could make some of those programs fresh again (especially Cena-Eddie), but they have been done.

 

At leats if they were to trade the champs, you'd have pretty much all new matches on both shows.

 

As far as the timing goes, I think the draft will happen right after Judgment Day. Vince made mention that it would happen "in about a month", I believe JD is on May 22, so that fits the time frame. By doing that, they can build up programs on SD for JD, and then start fresh the next night.

 

This is probably good and bad news for Cena. Cena is the guy they want to push, and by being on RAW he gets to be on what the company sees as the top show, and he also gets on NBC, which is a fairly big deal. The downside is that now he'll have to deal with HHH. I'm sure he'll be losing the title to HHH at least once, and we all know HHH doesn't have a great track record when it comes to protecting rising stars. The other positive for Cena is that he can have a little more freedom with his promos, which will help.

 

For Batista I think the move will be great. He gets away from HHH, he gets a whole bunch of new guys he can kill, and then he's even got Angle over there who can carry him to a great match or two on PPV.

How about switching CONTENDERS around, to build the shows around the Champions instead of the other way around?

[Guest seth86]

JBL's new character became popular after about half his title reign. That's when ppl really started liking him. Batista just needs a new opponent after backlash. Although i would like to see JBL/Batista. That feud can really make Batista huge and saves him from getting buried by HHH.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

The only match I would pay to see at this point is JBL vs. HHH . . . assuming JBL gets the duke, no matter how cheap the outcome is. I figure IF this match ever happened, JBL will probably be salvaged since it's Vince's favorite gimmick.

[Guest netslob]

Horshack was a scrawny geek and was on Welcom Back Kotter!. Potsie's from Happy Days. If anything HHH is like the Fonz.

 

alright, compare these pictures. what do the two of them have in common?

 

If HHH is Horshack, would that make Randy Orton Potsie (I always hated Potsie.)

 

never, NEVER compare the brillance that is Anson Williams to Randy fuckin Orton.

[Special K 0]

I pretty much expected HHH to hog the mic and TV time after he lost the title to drive Batista's reign into the ground. How ridiculout is it, though, that they haven't found anything slightly different or new to do with HHH? For 3 years it's been 'I'm the best because I say so. Also, I like having the world title.' Man, that's fuckin' deep right there. The WWE just has absolutely NO IDEA how to make a new character nowadays. JBL: Evil Republican is the only good one they've had since....

[Ravenbomb 0]

are they gonna panic like this every fuckin time HHHorshack doesn't have the belt?  i'm really getting sick of this shit.

If HHH is Horshack, would that make Randy Orton Potsie (I always hated Potsie.)

Horshack was a scrawny geek and was on Welcom Back Kotter!. Potsie's from Happy Days. If anything HHH is like the Fonz.

plus, Horshack was always entertaining

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

I pretty much expected HHH to hog the mic and TV time after he lost the title to drive Batista's reign into the ground. How ridiculout is it, though, that they haven't found anything slightly different or new to do with HHH? For 3 years it's been 'I'm the best because I say so. Also, I like having the world title.' Man, that's fuckin' deep right there. The WWE just has absolutely NO IDEA how to make a new character nowadays. JBL: Evil Republican is the only good one they've had since....

Unmasked Psychotic Kane

 

Lying, Cheating, Stealing... Ultra Good Guy Eddie Guerrero

 

Crazy heel Brock Lesnar

 

Carlito Cooooooool

 

Eugene

 

William Regal's face turn

 

BIG DAVE~!

 

Heidenreich: SmackDown's Poet

 

 

I think all of these characters are really good.

[Slayer 0]

For 3 years it's been 'I'm the best because I say so. Also, I like having the world title.' Man, that's fuckin' deep right there.

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[Gary Floyd 0]

never, NEVER compare the brillance that is Anson Williams to Randy fuckin Orton.

Damnit, i confused the names! I meant Chachi, I always hated Chachi, and Orton's Chachi.

[Guest netslob]

never, NEVER compare the brillance that is Anson Williams to Randy fuckin Orton.

Damnit, i confused the names! I meant Chachi, I always hated Chachi, and Orton's Chachi.

ok, then. that's ok. indeed, Chachi sucked the perverbial root.

[Guest Dale Earnhardt]

never, NEVER compare the brillance that is Anson Williams to Randy fuckin Orton.

Damnit, i confused the names! I meant Chachi, I always hated Chachi, and Orton's Chachi.

ok, then. that's ok. indeed, Chachi sucked the perverbial root.

And Chachi means "Penis" in Korean

 

I'm about to make my first "deep" post here,

 

As a wrestling historian, I have noticed and documented the fact that when a championship is lost, the new champion takes over the reigns of the company or has an extended program with the ex-champion in order for him to retain it. However, the latter is only meant to happen with babyfaces or to turn someone babyface (See: Flair/Steamboat). Dave Batista should be allowed to run with this reign as champion and fend off all challengers before finally facing Triple H again. Batista has guys like Christian, Hassan and even a mini-feud with Gene Snitsky to occupy him. WWE hasn't let Dave have a "traditional" title reign, Triple H still looks like the champion. The promotion is built around the champion, not the boss' son in law. One of the factors in death of the AWA was Larry Zybysko using backstage politics to get ahead. Larry was in Triple H's position. He was married to Verne Gagne's daughter. Will WWE die? No, they have other sources of revenue. Will they suffer? Yes. Triple H has had the same gimmick since 1999. Even Hulkamania started to dwindle after six years. WWE can't judge Batista as champion until they LET HIM RUN WITH IT. Triple H still looks like the champion and is treated like it. RAW should be focused around Batista, not HHH.

[SuperJerk 0]

In Trip's mind, when he went from leather jackets and jeans as "The Game and I'm That Damn Good" to wearing suits as "the Fifth Horseman" probably constitutes a gimmick change.

[Some Guy 0]

I want someone to name me one guy who HHH has had good chemistry with in the last 3 years.

Honestly, the only one I can name is HBK. And that's for obvious reasons.

I didn't think they worked all that well together for the most part. The Last Man Standing and HiaC were pretty boring and the mic work sucked. IMO HHH had good chemistry with Rock and Foley (who didn't? Those two are off the page when it comes to working with others), other than that he hasn't a good feud. He and Angle did well until HHH killed that one off, same for HHH and Jericho, but once again look at the personalities of those guys.

 

Watch HHH and Shawn in DX Version 1.0 and it's painfully obvious that Shawn is carrying the load for HHH. HHH is a hanger on who got a big break and a huge push. He does have a good workrate and when he keeps his promos to about 5 minutes he's not bad there. But he refuses to shut up and books his matches to go way longer than they should. The two HHH/HBK matches I mentioned just dragged on and on for no reason. They could have finished both inside of 25 minutes but decided to go 40 and ruin them.

[Guest Dale Earnhardt]

In Trip's mind, when he went from leather jackets and jeans as "The Game and I'm That Damn Good" to wearing suits as "the Fifth Horseman" probably constitutes a gimmick change.

To be perfectly honest, if I were to give you an audio version of a HHH interview from 2000 and a HHH interview from 2005, removed the names and removed the mentions of "WWF" and "WWE." Could you tell the difference?

[humongous2002 0]

Right after the Rumble WWE management were happy with RAW's ratings and the HHH/Batista build-up to Mania, now that Batista has the belt while Trips is still the main focus of the show ,the ratings are not that strong anymore and WWE wants us to believe it's all Dave's fault then why don't they just take the belt away from him instead of "demoting" him to the "B" show? This looks more like HHH looking to bury that new threat to his beloved main event spot.

[Guest Tjhe CyNick]

This is the easiest way to get new matches though.

 

Cena has already worked with JBL, Angle and Eddie, which are the main guys on SD, yes they could make some of those programs fresh again (especially Cena-Eddie), but they have been done. 

 

At leats if they were to trade the champs, you'd have pretty much all new matches on both shows. 

 

As far as the timing goes, I think the draft will happen right after Judgment Day.  Vince made mention that it would happen "in about a month", I believe JD is on May 22, so that fits the time frame.  By doing that, they can build up programs on SD for JD, and then start fresh the next night. 

 

This is probably good and bad news for Cena.  Cena is the guy they want to push, and by being on RAW he gets to be on what the company sees as the top show, and he also gets on NBC, which is a fairly big deal.  The downside is that now he'll have to deal with HHH.  I'm sure he'll be losing the title to HHH at least once, and we all know HHH doesn't have a great track record when it comes to protecting rising stars.  The other positive for Cena is that he can have a little more freedom with his promos, which will help. 

 

For Batista I think the move will be great.  He gets away from HHH, he gets a whole bunch of new guys he can kill, and then he's even got Angle over there who can carry him to a great match or two on PPV.

How about switching CONTENDERS around, to build the shows around the Champions instead of the other way around?

well, you could still build the shows around the champions, its just that they would switch shows.

 

As I said, I think Cena is better suited, character wise, for RAW.

 

Its just the best way to create the largest number of fresh matches at the top of the card.