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Mike just took "heated discussion" and turned it into "You're an idiot because you don't agree with my view, which is the right one."

 

I don't see how that's a bannable offence. He had strong opinions and presented them and defended them. Again- isn't TSM about that?

What's the point of even trying to have a debate when someone will not only refuse to speak on the level with you, but constantly insults you and calls you inferior for no reason other than not agreeing with him on something like national spending or tort reform?

 

People always had the option of ignoring Mike if they didn't want to argue him.

 

That's MOST trolls. That's not Mike, who put himself all over the goddamn place. Like I said before, you knew it was trolling when the replies came down to just a sentence or two a post.

 

He didn't do anything in CE this week, and that's what the reasoning seems to be.

 

Even if he didn't, CE will be a much better place without him. I think it's pretty much obvious when people are NOT going to CE because they don't want to run into Mike that perhaps he's being detrimental to the forum.

 

I'll say it again: People like Mike are the reason why this board needs an ignore function. It's kind of unfortunate that we are not allowed to screen out indvidual peoples' posts, but instead have to resort to them irritating the fuck out of everyone until they become a banned asshat, but that's the way it's gotta be, I guess.

 

I thought flaming was allowed, particularly in CE. Banning him for being a dick is again, really reaching.

 

Flaming people for holding idiotic opinions ("Hey, that Hitler guy wasn't so bad") is one thing. Flaming people because they disagree with you on health care is something else entirely.

 

Seriously, kkktookmybabyaway calls people hippies and racists and anti-Americans and all sorts of labels because he's doing it in jest. Mike took it seriously, and it always boggled my mind.

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Better late than never.

 

Mike had the worst attitude and least redeeming features of any egomaniac shithead mistake who's ever posted here. Marney was often hilarious because she was clearly a few sandwiches short of a full picnic and Chris Coey even came up with a decent wisecrack once in a while.

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I think that you guys should take a "wait and see" approach on this banning, and if you believe that it is then not in the best interests of the board for Mike to be banned, then bitch about it. Now it's just a waste of time and space.

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Mike was probably the most stubborn person around the board.

Did Mike ever convince you to change your mind on an issue? I tend to doubt it, wouldn't that make you equally stubborn?

 

Did you ever see the threads where people would keep pasting stuff and citing evidence and Mike would keep moving forward with his POV?

 

I'm sure those threads exist.

 

As for my stubbornness. I'm pretty sure i've admitted that I was wrong sometime.

 

Getting into discussions with him was not a great idea for some. For myself, I didn't care. It was pointless for me to continue discussions with him, but it's not like I had something more important to do.

So, it was too hard for people to debate him but you didn't care? OK.

 

Yeah.. I didn't take it seriously. So?

 

Here's a few Mike-related things I remember (not counting the long thread I put in NHB)

 

#1 - The NAACP is as bad as the KKK (which was a huge logic reach)

 

Sure, but much more reasonable than "Bush=Hitler."

 

Yeah, a lot of things are more reasonable than "Bush = Hitler".

 

I don't recall Mike ever bringing any proof to that claim either. Other than being amazed that I missed some ad in Missouri.

 

#4 - Judges make laws all the time

 

What's the problem with that statement?

 

For one, it's not true and not possible. Judges, though a repeal of a law, do not make a new law starting the opposite.

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Mike was probably the most stubborn person around the board.

Did Mike ever convince you to change your mind on an issue? I tend to doubt it, wouldn't that make you equally stubborn?

 

Did you ever see the threads where people would keep pasting stuff and citing evidence and Mike would keep moving forward with his POV?

 

I'm sure those threads exist.

 

As for my stubbornness. I'm pretty sure i've admitted that I was wrong sometime.

You may have and I'm sure there have been posts with facts or whatever refuting Mike's opinions that he didn't want to accept, just as I;m sure there are plenty that you don't want to.

 

Getting into discussions with him was not a great idea for some. For myself, I didn't care. It was pointless for me to continue discussions with him, but it's not like I had something more important to do.

So, it was too hard for people to debate him but you didn't care? OK.

 

Yeah.. I didn't take it seriously. So?

 

So, why are you even posting here if you didn't care?

 

Here's a few Mike-related things I remember (not counting the long thread I put in NHB)

 

#1 - The NAACP is as bad as the KKK (which was a huge logic reach)

 

Sure, but much more reasonable than "Bush=Hitler."

 

Yeah, a lot of things are more reasonable than "Bush = Hitler".

 

I don't recall Mike ever bringing any proof to that claim either. Other than being amazed that I missed some ad in Missouri.

 

I think his arguement would be that both groups are extremely racist and evil.

 

#4 - Judges make laws all the time

 

What's the problem with that statement?

 

For one, it's not true and not possible. Judges, though a repeal of a law, do not make a new law starting the opposite.

 

Massaschusetts says hello. 4 judges ordered the legislature to legalize gay marriage. That is making law.

 

Even if he was wrong in his post, what would the beef with it be? It's not the least bit offensive.

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I think we should set up a pool on how much longer the CE folder will last.

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I think it's pretty much obvious when people are NOT going to CE because they don't want to run into Mike that perhaps he's being detrimental to the forum.

 

People are scared to post in CE because Mike might flame them?!?

 

If people are too fucking INTIMIDATED by a poster that they bypass an entire folder, they're not Current Events material anyway. I've disagreed with Mike on several things, and I've never hid in fear at how he would reply to me; rather, I awaited his response to me so I could fire back.

 

I don't know what he does in the TNA folder, and don't care, because I don't give a flying fuck about TNA. But nothing he did in CE was that detrimental to anything. It's what the Hardcore Discussion folder was meant to be like, before Hardcore Discussion became "Oh man, I'm on drugs right now."

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Besides, if anyone in CE was ever intimidating, it was Marney... I bet she could bend rebars with her vagina

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I don't care either which way about MikeSC, but I hope this isn't the start of a worrysome trend where people are banned out of the blue long after a specific event or repeated warnings given months ago. There should be a cut off time when if you're not warned about it, you shouldn't get the axe.

Just some non-mod bitching at some mods.

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I take back my former position, RobotJerk. Ban this guy, he's terrible, and he flamed me for no reason in CE...

EDIT: Forget it, I don't care, I'm removing myself from the situation and not posting in that folder anymore...

To clarify: I only flamed Slapnuts! in response to his stating that it was okay for Mike to flame people based on the grounds "If you can't take the heat, get out of the CE folder." I was trying to get him to see that it wasn't okay.

 

Well, he reacted quite negatively to my flame (suggesting that I should be banned myself), thus nullifying his previous argument that flaming in the CE folder is an okay thing to do.

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**Reads entire thread.**

 

Please note that 95% of the bitching about me (i.e. the Nazi comparison when discussing proposed laws that discriminate against gays) was over something I did once.

 

Its no secret that I despise MikeSC. I'm not really proud that I sunk to his level and flamed him back. However, my attitude towards him was purely retaliatory. In fact, a few months ago I even tried to make peace with him after he won an argument I was having with him.

 

That last about 3 weeks before he started flaming me again.

 

Things got REALLY heated when I posted evidence (actual government statistics) that contradicted his claims that welfare made poverty worse. He argued with me for DAYS, insulting me at every turn, for having the gall to contradict his "obvious" conclusion.

 

Then, just a couple of weeks ago, I made my infamous Nazi Germany comparison which inspired Czech to start this very thread. Of course the Conservative Brigade rallied against me, and suddenly I was the most hated man in the CE folder. I did not back down, though, because I did not feel that my comment was completely without merit. The Texas/Nazi Germany thing was a one time only thing. I have not, before or since, compared anyone or anything to Nazi Germany.

 

Just as that controversy finally started to die down, Mike goes and calls Islam a "death cult". This wasn't just factually inaccurate, but also offensive, and I stood up against him by attempting to show the error in his reasoning. This, of course, led to more flames (on both sides) rather than intelligent discussion.

 

I'm not proud of my behavior, and I do understand that I'm on borrowed time. However, I'm fully intent on followng the rules from now on.

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What's the point of even trying to have a debate when someone will not only refuse to speak on the level with you, but constantly insults you and calls you inferior for no reason other than not agreeing with him on something like national spending or tort reform?

 

Mike was condescending but it's not like he called people an idiot with every post. The guy could be an asshole, but that shouldn't be a bannable offence. I disagreed with Mike before and never had a problem.

 

 

That's MOST trolls. That's not Mike, who put himself all over the goddamn place. Like I said before, you knew it was trolling when the replies came down to just a sentence or two a post.

 

If people didn't like Mike "insulting" them, just ignore his insults and try to focus on the topic. Not hard.

 

Even if he didn't, CE will be a much better place without him. I think it's pretty much obvious when people are NOT going to CE because they don't want to run into Mike that perhaps he's being detrimental to the forum.

 

I don't think he was this cancer everyone makes him out to be. I mean, it's just a message board and Mike brought a lot of discussion and debate to the board.

 

Flaming people for holding idiotic opinions ("Hey, that Hitler guy wasn't so bad") is one thing. Flaming people because they disagree with you on health care is something else entirely.

 

I don't think Mike flamed that much to begin with, unless called upon and like I said before, I thought the board tolerated flaming.

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Then, just a couple of weeks ago, I made my infamous Nazi Germany comparison which inspired Czech to start this very thread. Of course the Conservative Brigade rallied against me, and suddenly I was the most hated man in the CE folder. I did not back down, though, because I did not feel that my comment was completely without merit. The Texas/Nazi Germany thing was a one time only thing. I have not, before or since, compared anyone or anything to Nazi Germany.

 

The fact that you still don't see how wrong that is, is pretty sad.

 

And you were guilty of always flaming or flame baiting Mike. Yes, Mike should've learned the art of ignoring things and letting things go, but the fact that you're allowed to post and he isn't is pretty sad.

 

Just as that controversy finally started to die down, Mike goes and calls Islam a "death cult". This wasn't just factually inaccurate, but also offensive, and I stood up against him by attempting to show the error in his reasoning. This, of course, led to more flames (on both sides) rather than intelligent discussion.

 

Regarding the Islam-death cult thing, Marney and Dr. Tom used to say many unkind things about the religion and they were never banned. Mike shouldn't be either.

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I think if someone were to call America a Culture of Death, that would be banworthy. I mean I don't think it's banworthy, but if they carried on posting with that sort of attitude and outlook the mods would certainly think it's alright to can them.

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C-Bacon and INXS haven't been banned and they say basically the same thing

They don't bash America to nearly the level that Mike bashes Islam. Mike usually does use hyperbole though, whether he thinks that's honestly the case or not.

 

I know a religion and a nation are two different things, but in terms of culture, it all amounts to the same thing.

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