Things that people remember incorrectly

[Guest Pariah]

Okay, I was speaking to a friend of mine in the pub last night and we started talking about the Booker T/Benoit series of matches, somehow the topic got around to the fact that the series was not for the WCW TV Title itself but was for the number one contendership; also that the best of seven series actually had eight matches. Two facts that are occasionally overlooked by a lot of wrestling fans when talking about the matches those guys had.

 

Another one was the Rockers split, I can't count the number of times I've heard someone say 'I loved it when Michaels Superkicked Jannetty through the window', which isn't how it happened. Michaels Superkicked Jannetty and then picked him up and threw him through the window.

 

Can you guys think of other incidents that people get wrong?

[Naked Snake]

Hogan turns heel at Bash at the Beach, everyone has that correct. But what people confuse is the fact he gave the same speech on Nitro the next day, which he didn't, he did that the week AFTER.

[Jericholic82]

Hogan turns heel at Bash at the Beach, everyone has that correct. But what people confuse is the fact he gave the same speech on Nitro the next day, which he didn't, he did that the week AFTER.

yea I remember that.

[Jericholic82]

Okay, I was speaking to a friend of mine in the pub last night and we started talking about the Booker T/Benoit series of matches, somehow the topic got around to the fact that the series was not for the WCW TV Title itself but was for the number one contendership; also that the best of seven series actually had eight matches. Two facts that are occasionally overlooked by a lot of wrestling fans when talking about the matches those guys had.

 

Another one was the Rockers split, I can't count the number of times I've heard someone say 'I loved it when Michaels Superkicked Jannetty through the window', which isn't how it happened. Michaels Superkicked Jannetty and then picked him up and threw him through the window.

 

Can you guys think of other incidents that people get wrong?

very true.

[Guest BDC]

Hogan turns heel at Bash at the Beach, everyone has that correct. But what people confuse is the fact he gave the same speech on Nitro the next day, which he didn't, he did that the week AFTER.

People talk about how nWo came from that speech. Hogan said it ONCE. The rest of the time he called it the "new world organization of wrestling". Not saying people remember wrong, just made the right choice.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh]

"Hulkamania" is always said to be "born" the night Hogan defeats Iron Sheik for WWF Title.

 

Hogan had mentioned "Hulkamania" in WWF TV promos before that night.

[JoeDirt]

That Survivor Series 1997 was set to be Bret's last match with the company.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh]

JoeDirt, it WAS set to be his last match, and he was to vacate the title on Raw the next night. Not final appearence, but last match.

[Guest LooneyTune]

The one I was going to mention was the second one noted (Michaels/Jannetty).

 

A lot of times, people claim that Austin pinned Taker clean at Summerslam 98, but actually gave him a low blow about 2 seconds before the stunner (and the finish).

[JoeDirt]

JoeDirt, it WAS set to be his last match, and he was to vacate the title on Raw the next night. Not final appearence, but last match.

This was posted a while back on the WC board by Meltzer, which is why I thought otherwise:

 

The story about Bret Hart going to Nitro and throwing the belt in the garbage can was made up by Vince, after the fact, because the guys were on the verge of a revolt and he needed to come up with a story they would be sympathetic to.

 

I think one of the myths, and the movie "Wrestling with Shadows," in attempting to be a dramatic movie gave the impression, is that Montreal was Bret's last match in WWF. If that was the case, he should have lost and there is no argument in favor of anything else. The fact is, he was booked at house shows for another month with the company. It turned out to be his last match because he punched the owner of the company in the dressing room and at that point, couldn't very well come back.

 

If Bret hart was going to go to Nitro the next day, then why, when the next day came, was he not at Nitro? Nothing WCW could have done at the time could have been more dramatic then him showing up the next night. Because he was never going. His WWF contract didn't run out for another month. WWF had already filed an unfair practices suit against WCW. Vince had not breached Hart's contract beforehand, so if Hart showed up on Nitro, he and WCW would have been sued and no way would Hart have put himself in that position. Plus, and most importantly, for a guy who cared more than most about his image with the wrestlers, he'd have never left unprofessionally unless forced to. Once Vince breached in Montreal, why he didn't go to Nitro then, is because Vince still owed him $30,000 and he didn't want to give him the excuse not to pay it.

 

He was going to Raw in Cornwall, Ontario and was booked to do an interview that would turn him babyface, which is a key part of the story. One of the deals in him agreeing to go heel earlier in the year was that he would eventually turn back. One of the deals when Vince opened the door for him to leave was that he would get to leave as a babyface. While he was the babyface in the match with Michaels, he never turned and was only a face in Canada, where he never turned in the first place.

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

Bogie never says "Play it again, Sam." in 'Blanca.

[Jericholic82]

actually IIRC it was the announcers that coined then nwo term.

 

 

how about the fact that it was Randy Savage who first called Hulk, Hollywood Hogan the night after BATB 96.

[strummer]

Luger showing up on Nitro the day after Summerslam 95, when actually it was a week or two later.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh]

oooh, I gotta good one...

 

Triple H's title shot at WrestleMania in 2002 did not come from winning the Royal Rumble.

 

It came from beating Kurt Angle the day after No Way Out.

 

Since Angle won the WM Title Shot at No Way Out.

[CanadianChris]

"Hulkamania" is always said to be "born" the night Hogan defeats Iron Sheik for WWF Title.

 

Hogan had mentioned "Hulkamania" in WWF TV promos before that night.

Hogan had T-shirts in the AWA with "Hulkamania" on them.

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

Darth Vader never says "Luke, I am your father."

 

Hannibal Lector never says "Well hello, Clarice."

 

The mexican in Treasure of the Sierra Madre never says "We don't need no stinking badges."

[Guest Sturm316]

actually IIRC  it was the announcers that coined then nwo term.

 

 

how about the fact that it was Randy Savage who first called Hulk, Hollywood Hogan the night after BATB 96.

IIRC, Bad News Brown referred to Hogan as "Hollywood" during their brief feud in 1988/89.

[Jericholic82]

actually IIRC  it was the announcers that coined then nwo term.

 

 

how about the fact that it was Randy Savage who first called Hulk, Hollywood Hogan the night after BATB 96.

IIRC, Bad News Brown referred to Hogan as "Hollywood" during their brief feud in 1988/89.

ok then, thanks I didnt watch wwf in 1989 so there you go

[Just John]

Myth: Angle kicked out of 3 stunners at Summer Slam 01

Fact: He only kicked out of the first and third (about 10-15 minutes apart) and rolled out of the ring after the second.

 

Myth: The Hog Wild 96 crowd was one of the worst ever

Fact: They were bad duing Benoit/Malenko and the ME, but were actually very hot for most of the other matches.

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

Myth: Angle kicked out of 3 stunners at Summer Slam 01

Fact: He only kicked out of the first and third (about 10-15 minutes apart) and rolled out of the ring after the second.

 

Myth: The Hog Wild 96 crowd was one of the worst ever

Fact: They were bad duing Benoit/Malenko and the ME, but were actually very hot for most of the other matches.

Myth: Ric Flair is human

Fact: Flair is God.

[Mystery Eskimo]

Bogie never says "Play it again, Sam." in 'Blanca.

Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson"

[Guest Sturgis]

"Hulkamania" is always said to be "born" the night Hogan defeats Iron Sheik for WWF Title.

 

Hogan had mentioned "Hulkamania" in WWF TV promos before that night.

Hogan had T-shirts in the AWA with "Hulkamania" on them.

Actully it was HULK-A-MANIA. An old PWI issue called it Hulkmania, and probably angered Stan Lee.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh]

Hulk wore one of the red AWA "Hulk-A-Mania" t-shirts into the ring w/ Backlund during his WWF return against The Samoans.

[JJMc]

BRETT HEART 1 HIS FIRST WWF TITEL AT A HOUSE SHOW

[Epic Reine]

A lot of people seem to forget that HHH had two chances in the King Of The Ring '97, he got eliminated in the first round by DQ but then Vader was injured so he got another chance. People don't remember that

[Guest LooneyTune]

BRETT HEART 1 HIS FIRST WWF TITEL AT A HOUSE SHOW

I hope the horrible grammar and spelling is mocking the people who do that. Just to clarify, Hart won the title during a television taping, but technically it was never scheduled to air on television, so it can be an either-way argument.

[Nightfall]

People still say Goldberg was one of the guys that Piper beat down when he was trying people out for his team for the Uncensored cage match. He wasn't there.

[Hunter's Torn Quad]

People still say Goldberg was one of the guys that Piper beat down when he was trying people out for his team for the Uncensored cage match. He wasn't there.

Funnily enough, the guy who people think is Goldberg is actually Luther Reigns.

[JJMc]

BRETT HEART 1 HIS FIRST WWF TITEL AT A HOUSE SHOW

I hope the horrible grammar and spelling is mocking the people who do that. Just to clarify, Hart won the title during a television taping, but technically it was never scheduled to air on television, so it can be an either-way argument.

Yeah, that's true, but the cameras were rolling and it was lit for TV etc., so it ain't a house show to me.

[Ace309]

Ric Flair's Royal Rumble win was an elaborate ruse on the part of the company to cover for the fact that Buddy Landell actually won the WWF World Title in a shoot at a house show the night before. In a complicated retcon involving a massive Jungian hallucination on the part of the fans, Flair's Rumble win was spliced together from previous months' tapes, and he was handed the title during a small backstage ceremony. (Flair's drunken staggering was later used, as a rib, in the Rumble 'footage.' Heenan played it off like he was selling his fatigue, when in fact he was just smashed and nearly naked.)