Mik 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Hardcore. New Steroid Policy Proposal The players union basically has no choice but to accept or be forever ridiculed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Hey, there we go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Meh. Football carries a 4 game suspension for first offense doesn't it? 4 games is 25% of their season. 50 games is about 33% of a baseball season. And it would only be appropriate that baseball has a 3 strikes and you're out policy on steroids, even if I think that is rather harsh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 He has to be harsh for everyone looking the other way for so long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 He has to be harsh for everyone looking the other way for so long. I can understand that the 2nd offense penalty of 100 games is just about the whole baseball season anyway so why bother making the third offense a year off, but they should probably still go with a year suspension before a lifetime ban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Might be the first good thing Bud has done since he became Commish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Was he commish when the wild card was implemented? If so, that was a wonderful decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2005 Totally. I'll never get why people think the leagues should be realigned into four divisions. That screws everything up and gets rid of the Wild Card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 I'm cool with it as long as the owner do not make any other inane demands with the Collective Bargaining Agreement expiring after next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 No way this will happen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 If the players' union nixes it, they'll look like assholes who are endorsing criminal activity, and with all the heat on MLB, I think they may have to approve it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2005 The visit to Congress didn't give Selig a wake up call or anything. Finally, start doing some legitimate things, Bud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonX 0 Report post Posted May 2, 2005 Hardcore. New Steroid Policy Proposal The players union basically has no choice but to accept or be forever ridiculed. Either Selig is going totally broke so as to get rid of the public black eye he substained during the last couple of months of steroid-gate by pushing for the most extreme form of sanctions against steroid users or it's all a big ass negotiation ploy where Selig is offering this extreme policy as leverage to get the players union to agree to a more moderate punishment policy that if initially offered would be laughed off the table. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 I dont really like the wild card idea, as it kind of makes winning a division ttitle less important, however it can save a team that just miised out on a title so I guess that makes it cool. and the past 3 ws champs have all been wcs (which actually pisses me off a bit) as for the steroid poilicy, hey they need some teeth with it, but hopefully they only giver life bans to those who used real roids, not other drugs that may or may not have banned stuff in them. Cuz it might be unfair to ban a guy for taking cold medicine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 The thing I like about the wild card is that it allows whatever team is behind that perennial powerhouse a chance to compete every year. It's not really fair to potentially be the second best team in baseball and not have a chance to go to the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 And I'll wait to see the results of the steroid policy before I say anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2005 The thing I like about the wild card is that it allows whatever team is behind that perennial powerhouse a chance to compete every year. It's not really fair to potentially be the second best team in baseball and not have a chance to go to the playoffs. Yeah, especially given that the wild card invariably has a better record than one or even both of the other division winners. If the AL adds two teams, which it will inevitably do, they can't go to four divisions of four like the NFL, because the wild card will be gone and also, the divisions will REALLY suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 The thing I like about the wild card is that it allows whatever team is behind that perennial powerhouse a chance to compete every year. It's not really fair to potentially be the second best team in baseball and not have a chance to go to the playoffs. Yeah, especially given that the wild card invariably has a better record than one or even both of the other division winners. If the AL adds two teams, which it will inevitably do, they can't go to four divisions of four like the NFL, because the wild card will be gone and also, the divisions will REALLY suck. yea 4 divs would suck. Maybe, well I feel that they should stop expansion. the more teams you add, the more watered down baseball as a whole gets. You get guys who dont even belong in double A playing in the majors. although MLB must like that 2 out of the last 4 expansions have won a ws (and incase of the marlins, 2) so who knows.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 Regarding the wild card talk -- I like it. It gives more baseball cities a reason to get excited in September, and the wild card team will still be good (no 82-80 records). Keep the three divisions in each league and give every division an even amount of teams (still don't understand why the NL Central has more teams than anyone else). Now interleague play on the other hand... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 Keep the three divisions in each league and give every division an even amount of teams (still don't understand why the NL Central has more teams than anyone else). Now interleague play on the other hand... Well it's either a 6-team NL Central or a shitload of interleague. You can't have it both ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 I really don't see why people would have a problem with this steroid policy. Here's an idea: Don't cheat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 Because of the amount of first time offenses coming from some over the counter supplement that has traces of a banned substance in them. Same for Football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 Well there certainly should be some leeway for things like OTC cold medicines that have banned substances in them. Maybe have the person that is taking said medicine report it to whomever before they take it or something. Seems like a little common sense should be in order there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 Keep the three divisions in each league and give every division an even amount of teams (still don't understand why the NL Central has more teams than anyone else). Now interleague play on the other hand... Well it's either a 6-team NL Central or a shitload of interleague. You can't have it both ways. I'd take no interleague play and even divisions. I mean the Pirates self-esteem would be so much better if they ended up in fifth place instead of sixth place... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 Keep the three divisions in each league and give every division an even amount of teams (still don't understand why the NL Central has more teams than anyone else). Now interleague play on the other hand... Well it's either a 6-team NL Central or a shitload of interleague. You can't have it both ways. I'd take no interleague play and even divisions. I mean the Pirates self-esteem would be so much better if they ended up in fifth place instead of sixth place... But it can't work that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 Well there certainly should be some leeway for things like OTC cold medicines that have banned substances in them. Maybe have the person that is taking said medicine report it to whomever before they take it or something. Seems like a little common sense should be in order there. Then why couldn't a player tell MLB that he's taking an OTC medication, then take something else? Most steroid tests measure hormone levels and detect abnormalities. Generally, they do not catch specific substances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2005 But it can't work that way. Yeah it could. It's just that the brain-dead masses want to see the Yanks play the Giants, or something... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted May 5, 2005 You can't have even divisions and no inter-league play, at least not with 30 teams. 15 teams in each league would mean there's always a team not playing on any given day. That wouldn't work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Winner! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted May 6, 2005 Because of the amount of first time offenses coming from some over the counter supplement that has traces of a banned substance in them. Same for Football. Then the players need to be insanely careful. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
