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Dude. You just hit nearly every 14 year old GameFAQs poster troll about the Xbox ever in one post (size joke, "just a PC" comment, all you had left to do was make a blue screen joke.)

You forgot the :P

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Ah, I love console unveilings. Where everybody that doesn't like the previous one just has to make an ass out of themselves.

 

Personally, I'll wait and see what it does, before I buy one, just like I did the others in this generation. If it's anything like this one, I'll get a PS3 for the imports, and select RPGs, and an Xbox for everything else. Unless Nintendo gets another Super Robot Wars game, and something like RE4..I'll pass.

 

The controller can't be any worse than the one the GC has, after all. Personally, the first Xbox controller was my favorite.

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Actually, I have to admit, that doesnt look as bad as it looked the first time, I guess it's grown on me. Because its silver, it would go ok with the other stuff under my TV(DVD Recorder, VHS etc), its only the slim PS2 that stands out due to it being black, mind you I can always buy that and PS3(and yes if you have a well paid job, you tend to think like that, its pathetic)

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Dude. You just hit nearly every 14 year old GameFAQs poster troll about the Xbox ever in one post (size joke, "just a PC" comment, all you had left to do was make a blue screen joke.)

Damn, I missed one!

 

The funny part is, considering the MTV unveiling and the name, that seems to be exactly the audience the X-Box 360 is aiming at.

 

I thought the XB1 marketing was surprisingly bad. The only memorable TV commercial they had was the one with the guy playing it in the rain-forest. Too many of the X-Box commercials felt exactly like PS2 ones.

 

I'm also reminded of the disastrous Tetris Worlds/Clone Wars bonus pack, which didn't produce any real jump in sales at all.

 

Ah, I love console unveilings. Where everybody that doesn't like the previous one just has to make an ass out of themselves.

 

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The controller can't be any worse than the one the GC has, after all. Personally, the first Xbox controller was my favorite.

 

The XB1 was fun while I had it, but too lacking in its game library. If you aren't in love with Halo, it's easy to get bored with it.

 

I like the GC controller, except for the Capcom fighters. The Z button isn't clicky enough, though.

 

The *first* X-Box controller? If you were Damu, I'd understand, but what--are you 7-feet tall and able to palm a basketball?

 

By the way, you guys going on about ripping off Apple seem to think that nobody has created a grey console before or something.

 

Has Dreamcast been forgotten already?

 

The 360 and DC look white to me. Although next to the DC's controller ports it's grey.

 

SNES was light grey. With purple switches. But the Famicom/Super Famicom always looked nicer anyway.

 

(EDIT:

VH is right, at least if it is the same as the earlier pics. They showed it as being silver, not white/grey, but this one doesn't really look silver, likely because of bad lighting.

 

The first US Saturns were silver, you know...)

 

Ironically, save for the hard drive, the Dreamcast was more of a PC than the X-Box 1. Keyboard was provided fairly early on, and had games especially compatible with it, you could surf the internet with it, and early on it's library was plagued with PC shovelware.

 

By the way, for those of you who don't know, it's rumored that it'll have different color cases for customization if you really dislike the color that much.

 

Hopefully that won't invalidate your warranty, though.

 

Ah, I love console unveilings. Where everybody that doesn't like the previous one just has to make an ass out of themselves.

 

No, just making fun of Microsoft's ability to use their vast amount of resources to make a horrible looking console and inept marketing decisions.

 

Sony should make the PoS3 $99.99--but it self-destructs in exactly 8 months after it is removed from the box.

 

For the heck of it, here's a fake, earlier X-Box 2 pic I found:

 

http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/xbox2/xbox2fake.jpg

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The funny part is, considering the MTV unveiling and the name, that seems to be exactly the audience the X-Box 360 is aiming at.

The name really doesn't have much to do with anything, I think, other than "Xenon woulda been cooler." But obviously somebody realized that they've built up something with the name Xbox, so they might as well continue down that train of thought. You can't say that Sony didn't realize the same brand-name value behind the word PlayStation when making PS2. It sounded stupid in 1997, but just saying the word these days immediately evokes images of Final Fantasy, Madden, etc.

 

I thought the XB1 marketing was surprisingly bad.  The only memorable TV commercial they had was the one with the guy playing it in the rain-forest.

 

Actually, the Blood Wake ads were friggin' hysterical, IMO. Unfortunately, it wound up being a really bad game. I think Xbox.com may have those ads. But you had this Hawaiian music to in-game video of glistening water and islands as this sultry voice says "Waves, sand..... And a machine gun" or "Among blue water and white sand, pink skies indicate.. Oh, it's some guy on fire."

 

I'm also reminded of the disastrous Tetris Worlds/Clone Wars bonus pack, which didn't produce any real jump in sales at all.

 

I thought that was just moving excess software stock?

 

The *first* X-Box controller?  If you were Damu, I'd understand, but what--are you 7-feet tall and able to palm a basketball?

 

I like the first one better myself, although I use the smaller one much of the time now since so many games have their controls mapped out with it in mind. The Cube controller is way too small for me. Dual Shock I can understand, since it's more or less the evolution of the SNES control pad.

 

I do have kinda big hands but not massive or anything. I can see why this is the way it is though, they'd be Godzilla-sized by Japanese standards.

 

No, just making fun of Microsoft's ability to use their vast amount of resources to make a horrible looking console and inept marketing decisions.

 

Sony should make the PoS3 $99.99--but it self-destructs in exactly 8 months after it is removed from the box.

 

Good lord, I hope you don't ever make fun out of anyone for console elitism/snobbery before looking in the mirror first.

 

I get your type. Now go back to rambling about how Katamari Damacy is the best game in 10 years and how Nintendo is the only manufacturer who gets it right while the rest of us have the gall to enjoy our systems, even if they appeal to the mainstream.

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The name really doesn't have much to do with anything, I think, other than "Xenon woulda been cooler." But obviously somebody realized that they've built up something with the name Xbox, so they might as well continue down that train of thought. You can't say that Sony didn't realize the same brand-name value behind the word PlayStation when making PS2. It sounded stupid in 1997, but just saying the word these days immediately evokes images of Final Fantasy, Madden, etc.

 

I meant, of course, the "360" part. Keeping the XB name is perfectly understandable.

 

 

Actually, the Blood Wake ads were friggin' hysterical, IMO. Unfortunately, it wound up being a really bad game. I think Xbox.com may have those ads. But you had this Hawaiian music to in-game video of glistening water and islands as this sultry voice says "Waves, sand..... And a machine gun" or "Among blue water and white sand, pink skies indicate.. Oh, it's some guy on fire."

 

Never saw that one, surprisingly.

 

I thought that was just moving excess software stock?

 

Because you want to put 2 games nobody wants in your "Holiday Bundle."

 

I like the first one better myself, although I use the smaller one much of the time now since so many games have their controls mapped out with it in mind. The Cube controller is way too small for me. Dual Shock I can understand, since it's more or less the evolution of the SNES control pad.

 

I do have kinda big hands but not massive or anything. I can see why this is the way it is though, they'd be Godzilla-sized by Japanese standards.

 

The 2nd one is much nicer, but the layout of the first was better.

 

I found the Cube controller just right for mine, but that Z-button and the tiny D-pad doesn't quite fly. Plus, nobody seems capable of making a decent 3rd party pad for it, which is a shame for a cheap ass like me.

 

Good lord, I hope you don't ever make fun out of anyone for console elitism/snobbery before looking in the mirror first.

 

This is funny, because I'd mentioned over and over again how the PS2 game library blows every other system's out of the water, no contest.

 

Without Halo, MS would have been fucked.

 

Without their old franchises and certainly Pokemon, Nintendo would have been fucked.

 

Sony would have done just fine if you eliminated every single franchise that was a huge hit on the PS1 (granted that would still leave GTA, which nobody cared about on PS1), because the system saw the debut of tons of great series and franchises.

 

I get your type. Now go back to rambling about how Katamari Damacy is the best game in 10 years and how Nintendo is the only manufacturer who gets it right while the rest of us have the gall to enjoy our systems, even if they appeal to the mainstream.

 

Because when I say "X-Box's library doesn't appeal to me enough to justify owning one" I'm bashing the "rest" of you who enjoy it. Even though I've said over and over again that if you like certain genres, XB will suffice.

 

Even though I had previously gotten rid of my first Gamepurse because of the lack of games, and am picking it up now since several games I really want to play are on it, and the new Zelda game is coming out, I'm allegedly, indirectly saying Nintendo is the "only manufacturer who gets it right."

 

And the system I have the most games for, whose games I overall like the most, I have the gall to mention that Sony's hardware are *pieces of shit*--when they are. If they didn't have such great games, I'd never touch their lousy hardware again. I *must* hate it though because it "appeals to the mainstream," correct?

 

Katamari's better than 9 out of 10 of every game on the Gamecube or the X-Box combined, IMO, incidentally. Don't be bitter that Japan doesn't like your overgrown, filthy gaijin console, Jobber.

 

You're taking this entirely too seriously. Not a single one of the new consoles has anything about them to really excite us as far as tangible game experiences. So what's wrong with poking fun at them?

 

This isn't the first time you've attempted to poison discourse between us by making personal insults. For somebody who didn't seem to like Mike all that much, you certainly adopt some of his techniques.

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Thought I might as well post this in here since it kind of keeps with the new console theme:

 

Revolution to have 'squeezable' controllers?

 

According to the forum postings of a supposedly anonymous ex-Nintendo employee who's known to be working on Revolution games at a third-party developer, Nintendo's new Revolution console will feature pressure sensitive 'squeezy' joypads and offer gamers a free online gaming service.

 

While the rants of self-proclaimed, anonymous industry insiders are to generally be taken with a pinch of salt, his claims do seem to correspond with recent mutterings regarding the console.

 

"It will be like controlling a game with one of those stress balls," he claimed. "You squeeze it to go faster."

 

While analogue triggers, such as those featured on Dreamcast and Xbox pads, already boast a certain degree of 'squeezability', what this forum fellow is saying is that the entire body of the controller will be 'squishy' to some degree.

 

According to the source, the controller will also be wireless, which seems likely to be the future for each of the next-gen console's controllers, while voice control will also play a key part in Revolution's interface.

 

The source also went on to describe the free online service Nintendo will provide. "The only way I can describe it is as an internet service," he said. "Imagine turning it on and checking your mail on the system. You see previews and demos of DS and Revolution games that you can download.

 

"A magazine similar to Nintendo Power will be exclusive to the system and you will be able to access it on the Revolution's homepage."

 

Finally, Activision, Electronic Arts, Namco, Sega, Capcom and Zoonami are all reported to currently be working on titles for the machine.

 

And that's it for now. Unlike Microsoft, Nintendo is keeping its cards very close to its chest, not wanting anything to leak prior to its pre-E3 press event, which takes place on 17 May.

 

- Gamesradar.com

 

I really want to see this console now. I wonder if even half these weird rumours about the controller are true.

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What, you can't guide the console by whistling? Not gimmicky enough.

 

Some ideas Nintendo can implement:

 

A tongue sensor on the console with tastes varrying from ramen to tropical fruits depending on the color revolution you own. The sensor can work with games like "pokemon lick".

 

Also you can dress you dress your revolution up with mr potatohead like accessories, used in connection with games like "Marios Idol party."

 

Patent pending.

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A tongue sensor on the console with tastes varrying from ramen to tropical fruits depending on the color revolution you own. The sensor can work with games like "pokemon lick".

The long-awaited Boogerman 2 would take full advantage of this technology.

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If they DON'T fuck up the Revolution, it should be mind-bogglingly awesome.

 

EDIT: Okay, I suppose this is a given...just saying. If they use some of these concepts intelligently, without being too "hokey," this thing sounds like it could be amazing.

Edited by Hoff

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Now, I have NO idea if this is real, but I've seen it at several places around the internet.

 

The controller, the camera, the headset, the camera, and even the console itself...there have been a lot of Xbox 360 leaks so far.

 

Now, it seems a full list of Xbox 360 specs and Xbox Live details has been leaked. This list comes from a thread on the Team Xbox forums (the thread has since been deleted), and the TXB poster originally got it from another un-named forum.

 

 

2 types of Xbox Live:

Xbox Live Silver (no subscription required)

Xbox Live Gold (subscription benefits)

 

Features for Gold service

(S) Also for Silver

(O) Also for Offline

 

- Seamless transition to Xbox Live account from Xbox to Xbox 360

- Access to MMOs (additional fees may apply) (S)

- Free Xbox Live weekends (S)

- Multiplayer online gameplay

- Avatar for gamer profile(S)(O)

- Motto for gamer profile (S)(O)

- Personalized look for Xbox System Guide (S)(O)

- Offline achievments (S)(O)

- Online achievements (S)

- Access to other players' Gamer cards via Live (S)

- Cumulative gamer score (S)(O)

- Location/language profile (S)(O)

- Reputation (S)

- Enahnced matchmaking using above

- Skill level matchmaking

- Gameplay style profile (casual, competitive, etc.)

- Recent players list (S)

- Free and premium download game content(S)

- Free and premium downloadable movies, music, tv (S)

- Downloadable demos/trailers (S)

- Microtransactions (S)

- Custom playlist in every game (S)(O)

- Play music from portable devices (S)(O)

- View images from digital camera (S)(O)

- Strem media from Windows XP (S)(O)

- Interactive screen savers (S)(O)

- Track info for CDs (S) (O)

- Communication with voice, video or text (S)

 

The Hardware:

1. Support for DVD-video, DVD-Rom, DVD-R/RW, CD-DA, CD-Rom, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 cd, JPEG photo CD

2. All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing

3. Customizable face plates to change appearance

4. 3 USB 2.0 ports

5. Support for 4 wireless controllers

6. Detachable 20GB drive

7. Wi-Fi ready

 

Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU

- 3 symmetrical cores at 3.2 GHz each

- 2 hardware threads per core

- 1 VMX-128 vector unit per core

- 1 MB L2 cache

 

CPU Game Math Performance

- 9 billion dots per second

 

Custom ATI Graphics Processor

- 500 MHz

- 10 MB embedded DRAM

- 48-way parallel floating-point shader pipelines

- unified shader architecture

 

Memory

-512 MB GDDR3 RAM

- 700 MNz DDR

 

Memory Bandwidth

- 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth

- 256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM

- 21.6 GB/s frontside bus

 

Audio

- Mulitchannel surround sond output

- Supports 48khz 16-bit audio

- 320 independent decompression channels

- 32 bit processing

- 256+ audio channels

 

 

To sum up the important stuff regarding XBL:

 

There will be two versions of Xbox Live. Silver is free (everyone gets it), and Gold is a paid subscription, like the current XBL. It looks like Xbox Live will be free on the weekends for everyone; Gold members will get it all the time, obviously. Current Xbox Live accounts will carry over to the 360 and become Gold Xbox Live accounts. Both Gold and Silver members will be able to download demos, trailers, and other content through XBL.

 

This info seems pretty legit, and some insiders have confirmed that this is indeed a real leak. At this rate, you have to wonder if Microsoft will have anything left to reveal at the MTV unveiling on May 12. :P

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That new info is real.

 

I really don't care what the thing looks like as long as it has the games I'm looking for.

 

Xbox 1 is pretty cool. Good FPS and a surprisingly good fighting game lineup recently.

 

Revolution doesn't sound very exciting. Gimmicks and innovation for the sake of being different doesn't thrill me. I'd rather just have good traditional games.

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2nd-hand info from message board peeps who watched the X-Box 360 thing on MTV

 

No real info unvieled, not even stuff we already knew.

 

Just tons of filler and bullshit, just as ghey as the SpikeTV awards, if not more.

 

Very little "in game" footage shown. But...lots of intros!! Yeah, like that tells anybody anything.

 

Perfect Dark and Tony Hawk had some gameplay footage shown, but wasn't really impressive at all.

 

The new Ghost Recon game looks really good.

 

No DoA4 gameplay? Weak.

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That was extremely underwhelming. None of it really looked that good and all the stuff that wasn't CG didn't look much different than current gen graphics.

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From 1up.com

 

Coming Full Circle

What has to be the worst kept secret in the history of videogames was finally revealed on May 12, 2005: In a historical first for gaming, Microsoft unveiled their next-generation hardware, now confirmed to be called Xbox 360, on MTV by throwing a red-carpet Hollywood extravaganza. "I'm not launching Xbox 360 on MTV because nobody's ever freakin' done it before," says Peter Moore, corporate VP of Xbox marketing and publishing. "I'm launching it [on MTV] because I think that's the way of the future. The way of the future is to bring a platform to life directly to the consumer in an entertainment-based manner."

 

Moore's vision of gaming's current and future trajectory wasn't just echoed by Microsoft's marketing attempt to equate rock music and sex symbols with the raw power and slick bevel of a game console; a palpable buzz of interest between both mainstream rubberneckers and hardcore consumers began in earnest after Microsoft declared 2005 the dawning of the "high definition" era at this year's Game Developer Conference. Certainly, the Xbox 360 was a secret too big to keep under wraps for long; by the time we tagged along with sister-magazine Electronic Gaming Monthly to get a glimpse of the system in Redmond, WA. last March, leaks out of Europe were already hitting the net. "I'm horrified of what happened last night," Moore tells us, during our initial interview about Microsoft's next-gen plans. "Some of your colleagues in the online world did something which I thought lacked great journalistic integrity." He's referring to an incident where a certain rumor-fueled fansite infiltrated an Xbox 360 focus group and posted a transcript of the proceedings.

 

However, the info faucet just kept on dripping. Almost to the point now where any official online "unveiling" of the Xbox 360 feels like nothing more than a formality — at least when it comes to the how the system looks. But looks, as they say, aren't everything. And as entertaining as the MTV kickoff may have been, you probably actually know very little about what the Xbox 360 can really do. Keeping in mind that Microsoft has yet to set an official Xbox 360 release date (although another leak recently points to a November launch), or a price point for either system nor its games, 1UP.com is proud to present an in-depth tour, from exterior to interior, of everything Xbox 360.

 

It's about time you got caught up with the future.

 

*snerk*

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I can't get over how bad PDZ looks. That dude leaning against the wall looks like something out of Quake II. It's hilarious that the framerate still sucks. PD is DOOMED.

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I just loved how MTV showed the 360 for about a good 4 minutes total for the show. The games look pretty nice through and the fact they'll have faceplates for the system is cool. I just wish they went into showing the specs of it instead of just showing some of the games, and what West Coast Customs did to the Xbox. The "reviling" should have been longer than a half hour, complete unuseful time waste.

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Like I'm just seriously amazed at how bad PDO looks. I can't get over it! Just look at wall guy! One of his legs is much fatter than the other and his chin just like melts into his torso. What was MS thinking!? Someone should lose their job over this.

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Perhaps it's only PDZ, because Ghost Recon 3 seriously looks lifelike.

 

Although the rumor from EGM has it that the PS3 is rumored to be much more powerful than its competitors, and a ton of developers that originally signed on to do games for 360 are now jumping back to Sony's bandwagon.

 

I really, really think they rushed this thing too fast. They need to give it another year or so, and hell if they let Sony release their system first and maybe try to outdo it like they did with the original Xbox it might work. I know they feel that Sony won the console wars this current generation because they got a headstart on the userbase, but it's not going to work with the Xbox because it doesn't have nearly the userbase that the PS1 did. So instead they'll rush out a system which will likely get blown out of the water by its competitors hardware AND software wise, and re-up for the next gen.

 

Microsoft is like the new Sega.

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Those images are obviously distorted. I mean they will look generally look like that, but you can see the background to see how screwed up the perspective is.

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