Guest Report post Posted October 4, 2005 I remember someone calling them the Phoenix Suns of the east.Whoever said that should never see the red light of a camera on their face again, or their writing in the newspaper again. That's really, really dumb. Allan Houston is also another good trading block next year I believe. Not really. You see, teams in the NBA don't really want an injury prone guy, and the team that would take a guy with a huge, expiring contract is the one that he's already on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 I had a dream the Knicks traded Stephon Marbury for Eddie Jones and Brian Grant. Anyway, the Curry trade, it's simple. If he's healthy, it's a steal, because Sweetney yes he can score in the post, but he's not a good defender and gets like 20 fouls a minute. He's not a monster rebounder after teams adjusted to him, and Tim Thomas we all know. Curry isn't a good rebounder, but we need a low post scorer badly. He's also 6'11 285, 22-23 years old, and we have him locked up for the next 6 years. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If Curry delivers the Knicks are going to have a good young team this year. I remember someone calling them the Phoenix Suns of the east. Allan Houston is also another good trading block next year I believe. He has a very large expring contract which would be great for a sign and trade. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There sure are a lot of Knicks apologists on this board. They trade away a promising young talent and future cap savings for a guy with a bad heart (literally and figuratively) and an uninsurable contract, and this is spun as a positive? If he is healthy and ably to play out the next 5 years, it will be a good move. But does ANYONE see this happening? Isn't it alarming that there was only one GM in the entire league willing to give this guy a contract? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheDon Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Well Allan Houston with the money he is making would be a good contract to have in the final year if a team is trying to get under the Cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Houston has another year left yet after this one, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheDon Report post Posted October 4, 2005 I had a dream the Knicks traded Stephon Marbury for Eddie Jones and Brian Grant. Anyway, the Curry trade, it's simple. If he's healthy, it's a steal, because Sweetney yes he can score in the post, but he's not a good defender and gets like 20 fouls a minute. He's not a monster rebounder after teams adjusted to him, and Tim Thomas we all know. Curry isn't a good rebounder, but we need a low post scorer badly. He's also 6'11 285, 22-23 years old, and we have him locked up for the next 6 years. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If Curry delivers the Knicks are going to have a good young team this year. I remember someone calling them the Phoenix Suns of the east. Allan Houston is also another good trading block next year I believe. He has a very large expring contract which would be great for a sign and trade. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There sure are a lot of Knicks apologists on this board. They trade away a promising young talent and future cap savings for a guy with a bad heart (literally and figuratively) and an uninsurable contract, and this is spun as a positive? If he is healthy and ably to play out the next 5 years, it will be a good move. But does ANYONE see this happening? Isn't it alarming that there was only one GM in the entire league willing to give this guy a contract? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I said If and that is a very big IF Curry is able to deliver meaning if he is healthy and puts up numbers that is a good trade for the Knicks. I loved the Michael Sweetney pick in the 2003 draft. He is turned into a pretty decent forward in this league who can put up 10 points and 10 boards on the nightly bases. I am sad to see him go and I know he is going to further improve in this league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 According to InsideHoops, the Knicks' contract year players are Thomas (who was traded), Hardaway, and Ariza. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 I think Isiah (if he's still the Knicks GM) is going to go after either Carmelo, LeBron, or Wade, whichever falls most easily into his lap. He probrably figures that not all 3 will re-up with their current teams in the next 2 years and when one of them hits the market, the Knicks will be there to make that person the cornerstone of the Knicks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 I wonder if the Pacers could make a splash that year. Croshere and Bender both come off, which has got to be close to $20 million just between those two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheDon Report post Posted October 4, 2005 I cannot see Wade leaving Miami even after Shaq retires. As far as Lebron and Carmelo who the hell would want to play in Cleveland or Denver when they could play in N.Y., L.A., Miami or even in Jordan's shadow in Chicago. Being a knicks fan I could only dream about having Lebron on the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Someone from Ohio would want to play in Cleveland, I would imagine. Doesn't mean he will, but that could be attributed to management. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheDon Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Weren't there rumors about how much Lebron would make in his endorsement contracts if he played for the Knicks or Lakers??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 Someone from Ohio would want to play in Cleveland, I would imagine. Doesn't mean he will, but that could be attributed to management. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Some guys don't like the pressure of being the local boy. Some guys want to get paid more and play in big cities. If I grew up in central Florida, and was the pride of central Florida, and Stern rigged the draft so I would just happen to end up being drafted by the Orlando Magic, yeah, I'd put in my three years, but if I started getting offers to be a Laker, or a Bull, or a Knick, or a Celtic, of course I'd bolt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted October 4, 2005 I know, I just had to say that. LeBron will be a Chicago Bull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 '07's going to be a pretty awesome FA class, at least compared to the two years preceding it. In addition to LeBron/Wade/Carmelo/Bosh, there are quite a few big names that have player options, as well. This, of course, is assuming they don't all sign extensions like Yao did and supposedly Amare is ready to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2005 I know, I just had to say that. LeBron will be a Chicago Bull. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where will we put him? I don't wanna lose Deng or Ben Gordon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted October 5, 2005 I don't know. They'll have to make room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 '07's going to be a pretty awesome FA class, at least compared to the two years preceding it. In addition to LeBron/Wade/Carmelo/Bosh, there are quite a few big names that have player options, as well. This, of course, is assuming they don't all sign extensions like Yao did and supposedly Amare is ready to. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's the thing. Is it really that common for a top guy to play out the contract and then be a free agent? It seems like everyone gets an extension or re-ups the year when they are restricted. I can't see the Heat, Cavs, Nuggets or Raptors letting these guys go without a major fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Kwame pussed out on his Arenas comments, it seems. Link~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Electrifyer 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 I know, I just had to say that. LeBron will be a Chicago Bull. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where will we put him? I don't wanna lose Deng or Ben Gordon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> IF the Bulls get Lebron, we would make room for him. But him becoming a Bulls is still a big if, and I don't think he's gonna want to give up being #23 either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 I had a dream the Knicks traded Stephon Marbury for Eddie Jones and Brian Grant. Anyway, the Curry trade, it's simple. If he's healthy, it's a steal, because Sweetney yes he can score in the post, but he's not a good defender and gets like 20 fouls a minute. He's not a monster rebounder after teams adjusted to him, and Tim Thomas we all know. Curry isn't a good rebounder, but we need a low post scorer badly. He's also 6'11 285, 22-23 years old, and we have him locked up for the next 6 years. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If Curry delivers the Knicks are going to have a good young team this year. I remember someone calling them the Phoenix Suns of the east. Allan Houston is also another good trading block next year I believe. He has a very large expring contract which would be great for a sign and trade. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There sure are a lot of Knicks apologists on this board. They trade away a promising young talent and future cap savings for a guy with a bad heart (literally and figuratively) and an uninsurable contract, and this is spun as a positive? If he is healthy and ably to play out the next 5 years, it will be a good move. But does ANYONE see this happening? Isn't it alarming that there was only one GM in the entire league willing to give this guy a contract? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hakeem had the same heart problem and played for like 17 years or so. Like I said, if he's healthy, how is this a bad move? They traded away an undersized PF (oh wait, since we traded him away, he suddenly becomes a promising young talent, my bad), and a guy who is mediocre for a guy who's a better player than both, with more upside, and an expiring contract (same as TT, if they decide not to cut him). And i've asked for this move. I think Curry will be the real deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Does anyone know the 12 NBA contracts that are uninsurable? I remember reading about it at the time the whole Curry thing went down. I know Grant Hill (ankle), Quentin Richardson (back) and Eddy Curry (heart) are three of them? Any guesses on the rest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 I know, I just had to say that. LeBron will be a Chicago Bull. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where will we put him? I don't wanna lose Deng or Ben Gordon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> IF the Bulls get Lebron, we would make room for him. But him becoming a Bulls is still a big if, and I don't think he's gonna want to give up being #23 either. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He'd have to be a total douche to not step aside with #23. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Does anyone know the 12 NBA contracts that are uninsurable? I remember reading about it at the time the whole Curry thing went down. I know Grant Hill (ankle), Quentin Richardson (back) and Eddy Curry (heart) are three of them? Any guesses on the rest? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ilgauskas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted October 5, 2005 I know, I just had to say that. LeBron will be a Chicago Bull. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where will we put him? I don't wanna lose Deng or Ben Gordon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> IF the Bulls get Lebron, we would make room for him. But him becoming a Bulls is still a big if, and I don't think he's gonna want to give up being #23 either. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He'd have to be a total douche to not step aside with #23. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe he'll go with #45 then... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2005 Does anyone know the 12 NBA contracts that are uninsurable? I remember reading about it at the time the whole Curry thing went down. I know Grant Hill (ankle), Quentin Richardson (back) and Eddy Curry (heart) are three of them? Any guesses on the rest? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ilgauskas? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Alvin Williams, Alonzo Mourning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 I had a dream the Knicks traded Stephon Marbury for Eddie Jones and Brian Grant. Anyway, the Curry trade, it's simple. If he's healthy, it's a steal, because Sweetney yes he can score in the post, but he's not a good defender and gets like 20 fouls a minute. He's not a monster rebounder after teams adjusted to him, and Tim Thomas we all know. Curry isn't a good rebounder, but we need a low post scorer badly. He's also 6'11 285, 22-23 years old, and we have him locked up for the next 6 years. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If Curry delivers the Knicks are going to have a good young team this year. I remember someone calling them the Phoenix Suns of the east. Allan Houston is also another good trading block next year I believe. He has a very large expring contract which would be great for a sign and trade. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There sure are a lot of Knicks apologists on this board. They trade away a promising young talent and future cap savings for a guy with a bad heart (literally and figuratively) and an uninsurable contract, and this is spun as a positive? If he is healthy and ably to play out the next 5 years, it will be a good move. But does ANYONE see this happening? Isn't it alarming that there was only one GM in the entire league willing to give this guy a contract? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hakeem had the same heart problem and played for like 17 years or so. Like I said, if he's healthy, how is this a bad move? They traded away an undersized PF (oh wait, since we traded him away, he suddenly becomes a promising young talent, my bad), and a guy who is mediocre for a guy who's a better player than both, with more upside, and an expiring contract (same as TT, if they decide not to cut him). And i've asked for this move. I think Curry will be the real deal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Check out John Hollinger's article on why this is a potentially horrendous deal. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/trainingcamp...d=2182500&num=0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 That guy really didn't say anything we didn't already know. The difference between Curry and Sweetney is that Curry is a true center, which is the very thing they've been lacking since they traded Ewing away. And let's face it, the Jerome James deal was awful and he alone wasn't the key to getting back to that kind of success. If they end up hanging onto AD, the trade gets even better because he brings a lot of playoff experience and is still very much capable of a double-double on any given night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 Basketball is not baseball. You can't use stats for everything. If you use statistics, Steve Francis is comparable to Jason Kidd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2181671 NBA is taking a page from the WWE's dress code... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2005 Allen Iverson told The Philadelphia Daily News he will fight any new dress code. YOU'RE KIDDING! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites