Blue Meanie Considering Legal Action Against JBL

[natey2k4 0]

Did the wwe pay for Meanie's hospital bill?

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I don't believe so, Apparently "Hardcore Homecoming", Shane Douglas' ECW paid for it.

[Carnival 0]

I just flamed Blue Meanie on his myspace page. He'll probably just delete the comment though. I would have quoted New Jack, but i think that would have been a bit harsh.

 

"Blue Meanie, I hope you die of AIDS within the next 6 months." - New Jack

[Adam 0]

^And you're such a hero for doing that. I wish I was mature and balanced as you.

[haws bah gawd 0]

Fuck the law. I hope Smothers gets to JBL.

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From what I've been reading, Smothers is more than capable of thoroughly fucking up JBL, so I'm all for it.

[Guest Brian]

From the observer, via the DVDVR board:

 

About the WWE, Meltzer went into detail about the JBL/Meanie situation about a page worth of details. JBL and WWE are trying to come up with a viable explanation on why JBL was unprofessional, because the WWE isn't going to take any action on JBL. from the WWE perspective, while the company has all the camera angles, there was doubt because the cameras were not always on them. Until a handheld video surfaced where you could see the incident in detail. Meanie was very animated before JBL touched him. JBL looked like a bull ready to charge just waiting for the go ahead. And he did, and Meanie got out of there quickly. With Al Snow running a pick on JBL. But someone who may have been Sylvain Grenier went after Snow, allowing JBL to break away. Meanie was on the other side of the ring paired off with Coachman. Dave said Meanie isn't 100% innocent in this because it isn't wise to piss off a 6'6" drunk guy. Dave said it's like ribbing on the square in that you are working even when there is alot real in there. How many times Dave says have guys called each other motherfucker when only the fans in the first row could hear? When they were just working out the act. So what he did is not unusal, not unprofessional even though given the background and just how it looked with Snow's face, it was unwise. JBL went after Meanie, from behind, meaning there is now he could have seen JBL coming. He threw a hard blow to the back of Meanie's head. They were throwing shots, but Meanie's were high on JBL's back and nowhere they were going to hurt him. JBL lost his balance and fell into the ropes, they clinched, he pulled Meanie's shirt over his head like in a hockey fight, and nailed him with a hard right, a forearm and 3 more hard punches. Meanie went down which is what saved him. After JBL put him down and watched him fall, he calmly turned around and walked to the other side of ring. He did glance back to see if Meanie was going to get up. Dave says when it comes to punishment, it doesn't matter who is right or wrong, but your position of the card. The videotape clearly shows nobody hit him first so the plausible explanation he told management doesn't hold up. Meanie saw the tape and there springs the talk that with the tape he is contemplating legal action. JBL did have some swelling around the eyes but that was from a punch from Tracy Smothers later in the fight, when JBL was being held by Sandman. And everybody knows about the promo Smothers cut on JBL where he volunterred to put up everything he owns, his life savings, his dog, his house, for the chance to fight JBL. Dave calls Tracy a crazy fighter and guys like him are not smart to mess with either. It doesn't matter Dave says because JBL is surely smart enough to ignore this because it's a no win situation for him. And hardly worth the injury risk for him.

[Guest JMA]

And the plot thickens. Does this mean JBL will get another title run soon (he seems to be rewarded for doing this kind of stuff)?

[Lord of The Curry 0]

While I don't condone what JBL did, my love for him has grown because of this incident.

[snuffbox 0]

So, how long until someone seriously beats the shit out of Bradshaw?

 

Im guessing itll happen within the next couple of years...then, maybe, he will be able to emotionally graduate from high school.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Bring it on. JBL fears no one.

[Guest JMA]

So, how long until someone seriously beats the shit out of Bradshaw?

 

Im guessing itll happen within the next couple of years...then, maybe, he will be able to emotionally graduate from high school.

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I don't doubt that he'll get his ass beat by someone, but I do doubt that it'll change him any. Did Bob Holly change when Brock Lesnar dropped him on his head? No. Just ask Rene Dupree.

 

As long as WWE management condones his juvenile actions, he'll continue to do them.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Brock vs JBL would bring the house down. One more reason why Vince needs to move his ass and get Brock back to work.

[Guest JMA]

Brock vs JBL would bring the house down. One more reason why Vince needs to move his ass and get Brock back to work.

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That would certainly be interesting. Brock and JBL were supposed to be friends before Brock left. Who knows how they feel about each other now? JBL may stiff him, knowing that Brock won't want to piss off WWE by injuring one of the office favorites. Then again, Brock may just not care and decide to drop JBL on his head.

 

Of course, this is assuming that there is any heat between the two. I sometimes wonder what would've happened with Bradshaw if Brock had never left.

[Guest JMA]

Check this out.

[Guest JMA]

You know, WWE could probably kill this controversy if they hired Meanie back. It's not like he's any worse than Marsters and Viscera. Plus, they could reform the bWo on Raw and sell a lot of shirts. Everybody wins.

[krease 0]

Check this out.

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Ah, you beat me to it. Well, for those of you who don't like clicking links, the WWE reported on the JBL/Meanie fight:

The JBL - Blue Meanie ECW controversy

By David Agostino

June 19, 2005

ECW’s One Night Stand may have ended two weeks ago, but what took place in the middle of the ring during the successful pay-per-view’s closing moments is still quite a source of controversy.

 

During the wild brawl that closed the show, former ECW wrestler The Blue Meanie and SmackDown! Superstar JBL appeared to trade some heavy blows, with the 6-foot-6 JBL seemingly getting the better of the exchange.

 

Photos and witnesses later confirmed that JBL did a fair amount of damage to The Blue Meanie’s face, even opening up some stitches he had received just a day earlier.

 

The incident has since been one of the hot-button topics making the rounds on the Internet. WWE.com was able to track down JBL, Meanie and Paul Heyman to talk about the bizarre events of that night.

 

Outside sources have tried to interview JBL, but they declined after being asked to record the conversation. As a result, WWE.com has the first words from JBL on this topic.

 

“People don’t know my side of the story, so I’m glad WWE.com has given me a chance,” JBL said. “But I’m not sure who’ll believe me anyway. I’m really surprised at all the backlash and I wish I was never associated with this and that it never happened.”

 

Many Internet reports have indicated that JBL and Blue Meanie had some previous run-ins during Meanie’s stay with the company in 1998, 1999 and part of 2000, and that those problems are the genesis of the ECW incident.

 

“The incident with Meanie had nothing to do with any old heat, I don’t even know the guy,” JBL said. “I understand he worked here, but I don’t even remember working with him. I couldn’t care less about the fat little kid. “

 

Meanie, who worked with WWE from October 1998 to June 2000, finds it almost impossible that JBL doesn’t recall his time there.

 

“That’s BS, he remembers me,” Meanie said when reached at home by WWE.com. “From my first day to my last, JBL never liked me. Maybe it was because I wasn’t an All-American football player or because my body wasn’t chiseled from granite, but he had it in for me.

 

“I enjoyed my time at WWE, I loved the work and I got to see the world,” Meanie continued. “I liked everything about it except JBL. When I was fired I was actually happy I wouldn’t have to see him anymore, that’s how depressed he had me.”

 

Here’s JBL’s version of the final moments of the pay-per-view:

 

“Before the brawl at the end of the pay-per-view, he starts cutting a shoot promo on me, saying I’m the reason he got fired and the only reason I got where I am is because I suck Vince McMahon’s d**k. I was incredulous,” JBL said. “I thought there’s no way he could really mean this. So I got to work with him at the end, and here we are trying to give the fans a great finish when we begin to lock horns in the melee. But he’s basically not even acknowledging my presence. Now I might have caught him snug with a shot, but then he starts throwing back heavy punches, including a body shot. So make no mistake, I club him back to make sure he knows I’m not playing, and I think I got him with a shot over the eye and one near the forehead and apparently opened him up a little.”

 

“Backstage I asked him if he wanted to finish it right then and there,” JBL continued. “He told me it’s all a show and that he didn’t want to fight. And he pretty much ran off.”

 

Meanie, as you might expect, had a much different view of what transpired.

 

“I was jaw-jacking with everyone, that was the whole point,” Meanie said. “The tape doesn’t lie. He went right for me and hit me when I wasn’t even looking. He even tried to pull my shirt over my face and have one of those hockey fights. He wanted a receipt for the things I’ve said about him.

 

Meanie is referring to old interviews on various Internet sites that quote Meanie calling JBL a “bully.”

 

“I tried to fend him off the best that I could, but at that point, I was also trying to protect the 14 staples I had in the back of my head from the night before,” Meanie added. “He’s a real big guy and there’s only so much I was able to do.”

 

JBL claims any accusations The Blue Meanie has made regarding JBL sabotaging his job with WWE are ludicrous.

 

“Apparently he blames me for getting him fired here,” JBL said. “I don’t have that kind of power, and even if I did, I wouldn’t use it on him. I really couldn’t give two sh**s about this guy. I don’t care if he ever wrestles again and I don’t care if he becomes a World Champion. Beating up the Blue Meanie doesn’t benefit me in any way. It just makes me look like a complete a**hole to attack this kid.”

 

For his part, Meanie is also trying to put the incident behind him.

 

“To me, it’s just really sad. JBL is supposed to be one of the top guys,” Meanie said. “He’s supposed to lead by example, not by fear.”

 

ECW head Paul Heyman, who you might remember had some harsh words himself for JBL during One Night Stand, certainly isn’t surprised at the amount of attention the incident as drawn over the past week.

 

“I'm not surprised the JBL-Blue Meanie incident is still generating so much buzz,” Heyman told WWE.com. “The top star on SmackDown!, a former WWE Champion, hit ECW's court jester with his best shots and couldn't knock him out? This is like The Sandman pounding on Howard Finkel and Howard walking away with some bumps and bruises.”

 

Furthermore, Heyman wouldn’t mind seeing both men settle their differences in the ring. In fact, Heyman wonders what WWE brass is waiting for?

 

“It's pretty amusing the SmackDown! brain trust hasn't capitalized on the interest in JBL and The Meanie and begged Vince McMahon to allow this match to take place on TV or pay-per-view,” Heyman said. “If they don't have the vision, ECW certainly does, and I'd welcome that match on any platform ECW is afforded. I even propose we allow the two to fight in the streets of New York City and broadcast on ECW.com!  After failing to silence his harshest critic, I think it's on JBL to prove if there's anything but bullsh** behind the Wrath of the Wrestling God.”

[Guest JMA]

I think it's interesting that WWE even responded to this, let alone in the way they did (it was a very unbiased article).

[Guest Ransome]

Check this out.

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Here’s JBL’s version of the final moments of the pay-per-view:

 

“Before the brawl at the end of the pay-per-view, he starts cutting a shoot promo on me, saying I’m the reason he got fired and the only reason I got where I am is because I suck Vince McMahon’s d**k. I was incredulous,” JBL said. “I thought there’s no way he could really mean this. So I got to work with him at the end, and here we are trying to give the fans a great finish when we begin to lock horns in the melee. But he’s basically not even acknowledging my presence. Now I might have caught him snug with a shot, but then he starts throwing back heavy punches, including a body shot. So make no mistake, I club him back to make sure he knows I’m not playing, and I think I got him with a shot over the eye and one near the forehead and apparently opened him up a little.”

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Nice insight into the mind of the delusional there. He truly can see no wrong in what he's done. I simply cannot believe Bradshaw is resorting to this defence despite the clear and irrefutable evidence to the contrary that has been shown by watching the tape.

 

Instant karma's going to get you one day, JBL.

[nl5xsk1 0]

a) Meanie'd have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that JBL did it on purpose to win ... all JBL would have to do (as has been said before in this thread) is convince the judge or jury that he was just trying to make it look real and maybe worked a bit stiffer than he intended to.

 

b) the fact that part of Meanie's injuries were his injuries from the night before re-opening does not help his case. "see, your honor, those stitches were from a fake fight last night. it's the black eye that's important in this instance"

[Guest jumpingbombangel]

I think it's interesting that WWE even responded to this, let alone in the way they did (it was a very unbiased article).

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It's the only interesting story they've had for 2 weeks. Now that the Hardy thing has run itself repeatedly into the ground we need another "blur the reality lines" type of deal.

[Guest JMA]

I think it's interesting that WWE even responded to this, let alone in the way they did (it was a very unbiased article).

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It's the only interesting story they've had for 2 weeks. Now that the Hardy thing has run itself repeatedly into the ground we need another "blur the reality lines" type of deal.

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Do you think WWE realizes that real-life heat between wrestlers is more interesting than their storylines?

[Ace309 0]

a) Meanie'd have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that JBL did it on purpose to win ... all JBL would have to do (as has been said before in this thread) is convince the judge or jury that he was just trying to make it look real and maybe worked a bit stiffer than he intended to.

Not to nitpick, but criminally, he'd have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, and civilly it would just have to weigh more heavily in his favor (preponderance of the evidence). Keep in mind as well that the CSI Effect is at play here - in real life, the evidence doesn't need to be perfectly placed, incontrovertible, etc. Hypothetically, JBL's quote from the article, Meanie's testimony and two or three guys in the brawl and backstage testifying that JBL hadn't "come down" from his character would probably be enough to prove recklessness (knowledge of a risk of committing a crime and conscious disregard of that risk), which is sufficient intent for MPC (criminal) assault.

Edited June 27, 2005 by Ace309

[Ripper 0]

Yeah, there are too many witnesses for meanie to lose the civil trial, and as everyone that saw the fancam vid, there is no doubt that JBL took a legit shot to the back of the guys head. There is a obvious difference between a legit shot and a worked one and JBL never threw a shot that could be called worked. Any jury would have EVERY other shot thrown in the ring to see what a worked punch looks like. JBL's stood out. The fact they would have a example of how it is supposed to be done and how he did it will do him in. You would have a hard time convincing a jury that a 15 year vet like JBL doesn't know how to throw worked punches, ESPECIALLY since he was throwing worked punches to Snow seconds earlier.

[cameron chaos 0]

Wow. It's nice to see WWE turned the propaganda machine back on.

[Guest jumpingbombangel]

I think it's interesting that WWE even responded to this, let alone in the way they did (it was a very unbiased article).

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It's the only interesting story they've had for 2 weeks. Now that the Hardy thing has run itself repeatedly into the ground we need another "blur the reality lines" type of deal.

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Do you think WWE realizes that real-life heat between wrestlers is more interesting than their storylines?

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They'd better.

[zyn081 0]

I think it's interesting that WWE even responded to this, let alone in the way they did (it was a very unbiased article).

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It's the only interesting story they've had for 2 weeks. Now that the Hardy thing has run itself repeatedly into the ground we need another "blur the reality lines" type of deal.

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Do you think WWE realizes that real-life heat between wrestlers is more interesting than their storylines?

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Yes, they should. The best gimmicks have been a over the top portraying of ones character such as SCSA. It would work for storylines, the E doesnt have the guts or intelligence to pull it off though.