haVoc 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 HHH UPDATE by Dave Scherer @ 10:42:00 AM on 7/22/2005 People who have seen Triple H lately have told me that he is looking a little "soft", as if he is not training as hard as he usually does while he takes time off from TV. In the interim, he has been working backstage at the TV tapings and spending time at the WWE offices. There is no firm word on when he will be back on TV, but there has been a rumor for a few weeks that he would take on Ric Flair at SummerSlam. Take that for what it's worth. Credit: PWInsider.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 HHH UPDATE by Dave Scherer @ 10:42:00 AM on 7/22/2005 People who have seen Triple H lately have told me that he is looking a little "soft", as if he is not training as hard as he usually does while he takes time off from TV. In the interim, he has been working backstage at the TV tapings and spending time at the WWE offices. There is no firm word on when he will be back on TV, but there has been a rumor for a few weeks that he would take on Ric Flair at SummerSlam. Take that for what it's worth. Credit: PWInsider.com <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That was supposed to be for SummerSlam originally but it got scrapped when HHH wanted more time to build a program with him and Flair, and subsequentally that was part of the reason he took time off. He's planning on being off TV for at least the next 2-3 months and will even be going off the road completely (ie no dark matches, house shows, etc) within weeks. Courtesy of this weeks WON. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slimm44 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 Better to ave him off tv than do some small feud like last year with Eugene Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gary Busey Report post Posted July 22, 2005 I hate seeing reports like this, because I figure it'll eventually get back to Triple H and he'll think everyone thinks he's soft and then he'll juice himself up even more and come back more quickly. Flair should come back and manage an up-and-comer while HHH is gone. HHH should stay off TV until December or so and then build up a match against Flair at Wrestlemania. Flair thinks HHH didn't have the right stuff after all because he walked out after losing to Batista in the Cell, and HHH thinks Flair abandoned him. Flair's new protege would have a match with whoever he was feuding with at Wrestlemania. Eventually the new guy and HHH have a match. Give it plenty of build and it should be awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jackie fargo Report post Posted July 22, 2005 Are you kidding? A HHH-Flair match.. Flair LOOKS WORSE than Hogan in the ring, and HHH is the most undeserving top tier guy since Nick Bockwinkel-Having these two guys match up will only be good in the sense of having Flair finally stop being a Mid-carders lacky-HHH should stay off TV. Certainly its good to happen sometime, hopefully it will be sooner than later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 Nick Bockwinkel didn't deserve to be a top-tier guy? The guy could flat out wrestle, andhe sounded extremely intelligent on the mic. Sounds like a guy who only saw Bockwinkel's last couple of matches with Larry Zbyszko (which still weren't bad). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caliban 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 Take that for what it's worth. Absolutely nothing, then... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 Keep HHH off TV, because the mid-carders are actually getting pushed now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 Yeah I don't think anyone would argue Bockwinkel couldn't wrestle or didn't deserve to be a champ at any point....it's just that his act got incredibly stale and fans wanted Hogan, but Gagne didn't put the title on Hogan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 Any chance of Triple H coming back as a babyface? I know his last face run with horrid, but he really needs to do something different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 Yeah I don't think anyone would argue Bockwinkel couldn't wrestle or didn't deserve to be a champ at any point....it's just that his act got incredibly stale and fans wanted Hogan, but Gagne didn't put the title on Hogan. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But that wasnt Bockwinkle's fault. He was definitly one of the best heel champs ever, and the template that JBL and HHH have tried and failed to match the last couple of years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted July 22, 2005 I can't say that I'm interested in Triple H vs. Flair. In fact, I'd be happy if Triple H and Flair had no contact on-screen for a long while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TysonTomko420 Report post Posted July 22, 2005 Nick Bockwinkel didn't deserve to be a top-tier guy? The guy could flat out wrestle, andhe sounded extremely intelligent on the mic. Sounds like a guy who only saw Bockwinkel's last couple of matches with Larry Zbyszko (which still weren't bad). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bockwinkle was the Cause of AWAs downfall though. not his fault but the fact that the booker passed over fucking Hulk Hogan for Bockwinkle when Bockwinkle was like 55 and Hogan was a hot up and comer was one of the dumbest decisions u could make Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool Report post Posted July 23, 2005 That makes Bockwinkel the Fall guy? Bock jobbed the belt to Heatless Jumbo and Heatless Otto Wanz cause Verne had some control over those two dispite not being AWA full timers. Hogan wanted to work both the AWA and Japan and Verne wanted a piece of Hogan's Japan $$$ since Hogan was an AWA guy. How Bock is to blame for this I can't fathom. Please Lock the new member option again for a while these 2 new guys in this thread are dumb enough to entertain me for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jackie fargo Report post Posted July 23, 2005 That makes Bockwinkel the Fall guy? Bock jobbed the belt to Heatless Jumbo and Heatless Otto Wanz cause Verne had some control over those two dispite not being AWA full timers. Hogan wanted to work both the AWA and Japan and Verne wanted a piece of Hogan's Japan $$$ since Hogan was an AWA guy. How Bock is to blame for this I can't fathom. Please Lock the new member option again for a while these 2 new guys in this thread are dumb enough to entertain me for a while. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Theres no denying Bockwinkel was a good wrestler during his heyday, but by the time the early to mid 80's rolled around he was being pushed beyond his wrestling worth, much like HHH has been for the past 2-3 years, my point was, neither men deserved the spot they were given- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2005 Triple H update: Fans don't miss him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted July 23, 2005 Triple H update: Fans don't miss him. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's an understatement. One of the things that bothers me about a Flair vs. Triple H match is that it'll be pushed as a match to decide who's "the best of all time." If Triple H wins (which he would), what has he accomplished? He's beaten an old man years past his prime. How would that make him "the best"? If Flair wins (very doubtful), Triple H looks like shit for losing to an old guy. They've really missed the boat with this potential feud--all the false Flair turns don't help either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Blazenwing 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2005 They had one hell of a match in 2003 though... it's even on the Flair 3-disc. I wouldn't mind seeing this match at WM again, especially since I'm actually hoping to go to this one, though I agree that HHH would be going over (no way he's losing 3 WM's in a row). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted July 23, 2005 They had one hell of a match in 2003 though... it's even on the Flair 3-disc. I wouldn't mind seeing this match at WM again, especially since I'm actually hoping to go to this one, though I agree that HHH would be going over (no way he's losing 3 WM's in a row). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think Flair should just retire while he's "ahead." He can always manage guys and get them over, but I have no interest in seeing him wrestle again. That's not a knock on him, it's just that I don't find his matches to be good any more. And I'd like to remember Ric Flair as he was during his prime--not as Triple H's version of Lodi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest panthermatt7 Report post Posted July 23, 2005 They had one hell of a match in 2003 though... it's even on the Flair 3-disc. I wouldn't mind seeing this match at WM again, especially since I'm actually hoping to go to this one, though I agree that HHH would be going over (no way he's losing 3 WM's in a row). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You mean 2 WM's in a row. You're forgetting the Booker T squash at WM20. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Team Angle Pusher 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2005 Are you kidding? A HHH-Flair match.. Flair LOOKS WORSE than Hogan in the ring, and HHH is the most undeserving top tier guy since Nick Bockwinkel-Having these two guys match up will only be good in the sense of having Flair finally stop being a Mid-carders lacky-HHH should stay off TV. Certainly its good to happen sometime, hopefully it will be sooner than later. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Flair looks much BETTER then Hogan in the ring. Could Hogan go like Flair did couple of weeks ago with Angle? No. Hell, Hogan can't even do a fucking Leg Drop normally and he sure as hell can't take any hard bumps like Flair did. Flair owns Hogan in the ring like he always did and although I don't like HHH I wouldn't mind seeing Flair/HHH because I know it'll be a good match and HHH won't be in the main event. And Triple H beating Booker T was WM19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted July 23, 2005 I think Flair/HHH has the potential to be a really great match- Flair has proven he can still rise to the occasion if used sparingly and I know that Flair and HHH would be game for putting on a classic match- only at Summerslam though with maybe a rematch as Flair's retirement match with Flair going over at WM next year.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Team Angle Pusher 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2005 If it doesn't happen at Summerslam, make it happen at WrestleMania. Triple H shouldn't be in the title picture and it can be Flair's last match ever and I'm sure he wants to have it against Triple H. They could do HHH v. Shelton Benjamin feud and then HHH cheats his way to a victory and then in a rematch Flair stops HHH from cheating and Shelton beats HHH. Then Flair is a Face. HHH tries to cheat to win the Rumble but Flair eliminates him, Flair says HE'S the dirtiest player in the game, not HHH. At WrestleMania both men try everything in the book to win and Flair almost wins a couple of times but eventually HHH wins and then they shake hands and Flair gets a standing ovation, cries and retires. HHH could even be some what of a Face after that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool Report post Posted July 23, 2005 That makes Bockwinkel the Fall guy? Bock jobbed the belt to Heatless Jumbo and Heatless Otto Wanz cause Verne had some control over those two dispite not being AWA full timers. Hogan wanted to work both the AWA and Japan and Verne wanted a piece of Hogan's Japan $$$ since Hogan was an AWA guy. How Bock is to blame for this I can't fathom. Please Lock the new member option again for a while these 2 new guys in this thread are dumb enough to entertain me for a while. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Theres no denying Bockwinkel was a good wrestler during his heyday, but by the time the early to mid 80's rolled around he was being pushed beyond his wrestling worth, much like HHH has been for the past 2-3 years, my point was, neither men deserved the spot they were given- <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bockwinkel was Drawing crowds of 20,000 as of 1983. Bock Jobbed the belt in May of 84 and didn't see it again until June of 86. maybe he should've KEPT the title. Who Knows? Martel was the reason the crowds died as he was bland and generic compared to the Charismatic Hulkster who was taking over the WWF during the same period. Martel held the title for a sahde under 2 years. Bockwinkel toiled in the upper mid card. So Martel is your scapegoat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2005 whenever they meet, Triple H will somehow be the face...Ric Flair will be with some new heel protege'...it'll be a retirement match...they'll book the match tomake it look like it could go either way...HHH will win and they'll do the mutual respect/handshake/hug thing afterwards...at that point, Flair's protege' will attack both guys, setting up a fued between himself and HHH...I don't like it, but I can see that happening... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted July 23, 2005 It would be hard for me to suspend my disbelief that Triple H and Flair would actually feud when they're such big marks for each other in reality. I wouldn't really want to root for either of them at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Epic Reine 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2005 Expect HHH-Flair at WrestleMania, so at the biggest "stage of them all" HHH can beat his favorite legend, and make himself his own legend in his own mind. HHH probably already feels that WrestleMania has 3 eras: Hogan HBK HHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Team Angle Pusher 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2005 It would be hard for me to suspend my disbelief that Triple H and Flair would actually feud when they're such big marks for each other in reality. I wouldn't really want to root for either of them at this point. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's why it's so cool, they have been big marks for each other on the air as well for the last 3 years and Flair has done a fake Face turn every year and every time he goes back to HHH and he says HHH is the best bla bla bla. Then Flair turns Face, not HHH because this will be Flair's last match and the fans always cheer him anyways. It would be a money match IMO. I would root for Flair no doubt about it, he's the fucking man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted July 23, 2005 It would be hard for me to suspend my disbelief that Triple H and Flair would actually feud when they're such big marks for each other in reality. I wouldn't really want to root for either of them at this point. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's why it's so cool, they have been big marks for each other on the air as well for the last 3 years and Flair has done a fake Face turn every year and every time he goes back to HHH and he says HHH is the best bla bla bla. Then Flair turns Face, not HHH because this will be Flair's last match and the fans always cheer him anyways. It would be a money match IMO. I would root for Flair no doubt about it, he's the fucking man. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The thing is, this feud should've happened in 2004. WWE has killed my interest in it with the false turns and Flair being the Lodi to Triple's H Raven. I wouldn't mind if they had one more match together, but a feud wouldn't hold my interest for long. I'd be more interested in Triple H feuding with someone who has heat with him in real-life. While Flair should be managing (not wrestling) guys who have trouble cutting promos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2005 Flair looks much BETTER then Hogan in the ring. Could Hogan go like Flair did couple of weeks ago with Angle? No. Hell, Hogan can't even do a fucking Leg Drop normally and he sure as hell can't take any hard bumps like Flair did. Flair owns Hogan in the ring like he always did and although I don't like HHH I wouldn't mind seeing Flair/HHH because I know it'll be a good match and HHH won't be in the main event. Nah. That Flair/Angle match is an exception because it covers up Flair's weakness that is his offense because it allowed him to use his cheating instead. Hogan's not great either, but at least he busts out some good offensive moves once and a while (his match vs Rock at WMX8 stands out). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
