This Week in Baseball

[The Czech Republic 0]

They say Nevin can't block a Rangers trade because it's not in his no-trade clause, but can't he block it with the 10/5 rule? Not like it matters; he might as well just go with it since Kevin Towers is dead-set on running the poor guy out of town.

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I seem to remember reading somewhere that he won't be a 10/5 player until like a month into next season.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Hm. He's in his eleventh season of Major League service, and his seventh with San Diego. Maybe I'm wrong

[Fuzzy Dunlop 0]

Very mixed reaction for Manny in his first plate appearance tonight, a lot of boos. Then it was all boos later when he let a ball go over his head for a double by not going back to the wall right away.

[Guest Smues]

I found the article.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...t=.jsp&c_id=mlb

 

Nevin, 34, is signed through 2006 and has the contractual right to veto trades to eight teams. The Orioles are among those eight. He will have complete veto rights 59 days into the 2006 season as a 10-year Major League veteran. Nevin is owed about $12 million after this season -- $10 million next year and a $2 million buyout for 2007.

 

I'm sure the Padres will manage to trade him to someone not on his no trade list before 59 days into next season.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

WTF?

 

Os traded Larry Bigbie for Eric Byrnes. They got older (29 for 27) and I dont think they improved any.

 

Plus, Everett just hit a 2 run homer, and the Os trail 6-2.

 

The wheels on the bus go flying off...flying off..flying off..

[the max 0]

I'm praying that they don't give in to temptation and trade Manny. They're trying to win a goddamn division and defend a title. Trading away your best player for a good defensive outfielder and Aubrey Huff (who has struggled this year) won't win a goddamn thing. Manny likes the playoffs, he plays well against the Yankees, and he was the MVP of the World Series last year. I'm fucking PRAYING that they at least wait until the off-season to make the trade, if they absolutely HAVE to trade him.

[TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0]

I thought Manny didn't want to be in big market? The Mets are kinda in the biggest market in the country...

 

Not only would they be getting rid of Ramirez, but pretty much giving the Yankees the division title. This is a trade I am all for.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Sox are apparently having second thoughts. Guess they figure it would be a horeshit trade for them.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Sox are apparently having second thoughts. Guess they figure it would be a horeshit trade for them.

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This was reported in the scientific journal Duh.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Houston/St. Louis

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I was joking, because nobody watched the NLCS.

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Can you blame them? It was a foregone conclusion.

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Yeah, such a foregone conclusion that they had to play seven games to get a series winner.

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Don't give a shit. The team everyone expected to win won. This is why no one watched. Houston only delayed the inevitable. Don't be a smartass.

[bob_barron 0]

But Houston had a 3-2 lead and a ton of momentum going into Game 6 and in Game 7, had Clemens pitching.

 

So no, it wasn't a foregone conclusion.

[Bored 0]

They say Nevin can't block a Rangers trade because it's not in his no-trade clause, but can't he block it with the 10/5 rule?

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I thought so too but I found out that apparantly the 10/5 rule applies to full seasons played. Nevin's first two years in the bigs in 1995 and 1996 were not full seasons so he technically this is 9th full season in the Majors.

[Cartman 0]

Apparently the Sox will NOT do this trade unless a certain "Big Piece" from the Mets is involved(AKA David Wright). WHich would let them deal Mueller for a reliever.

 

I don't want to see Manny go really, but the guy has seriously worn out his welcome here in Boston. I was at the game tonight and he got boo'ed by 75% of the crowd...and after the stupid play in the field he deserved every bit of it as usual. Also he was being a retard going in and out of the Green Monster scoreboard all night, peeking out every once in a while waiting for the play to resume.

 

Huff and Cameron alone to the Sox and it's a terrible deal except that it will guarauntee that Damon gets re-signed for his 10 million per year over 4 years. Also would probably lead to the Burnett tade as they could probably afford him as well.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

But Houston had a 3-2 lead and a ton of momentum going into Game 6 and in Game 7, had Clemens pitching.

 

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And look how that turned out for them. Boston/New York had more excitement around them than Houston/St. Louis....

[Brett Favre 0]

The Red Sox are greedy as hell. The Mets are going to pay ALL of Manny's salary, AND they want Wright or Reyes? I don't blame Minaya for hanging up the phone. Tampa should just give one of the Met prospects to Boston, or just let Boston keep their prospects.

[The Czech Republic 0]

AHHHHH ALL I WAS TRYING TO SAY IS NOBODY GAVE A SHIT ABOUT ASTROS-CARDINALS BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS WATCHING YANKEES-RED SOX AAHHHHH

[Mik 0]

Lost in all the trade talk...

 

Jay Powell of the Atlanta Braves pulled a Dave Dravecky tonight as his arm just apparently snapped midpitch.

 

Goodbye, career.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Anyway, more big games coming up for the Cubs: two more must-wins against Arizona, then a chance to really make a splash in the wild card race against Philadelphia and New York. I think Houston is soon to follow, so the pressure is really on here.

 

It'll be interesting to see how Wood pans out as a reliever for the rest of the year. I'm hoping he can be the solution to the bullpen woes, give us a good inning or two most days to spare us from the instability of Michael Wuertz and the litany of guys that just seem to lapse between the majors and Iowa. It looks like Rich Hill is going to get the nod as the #5 starter, which I'm still iffy about. I'd really prefer that Glendon Rusch was moved back to the rotation, since that's where he really seemed to excel. He's been all over the place since Dusty demoted him.

 

EDIT: Oh I totally forgot that Scott Williamson is coming back from surgery soon. That might help our middle relief become more stable than the Italian government. Let's hope!

[Bruiser Chong 0]

Don't give a shit. The team everyone expected to win won. This is why no one watched. Houston only delayed the inevitable. Don't be a smartass.

 

Did you even watch the Astros the last month and a half of the season? They were the best team in the NL and for a while, held the distinct advantage over the Cards. Also remember that Carpenter, their best pitcher, was unavailable, making it even more of a topsy-turvy series.

 

And look how that turned out for them. Boston/New York had more excitement around them than Houston/St. Louis....

 

Yeah, coming back from 3-0 will do that for a series. Had they not made the incredible comeback, the other series would've been superior hands down. A classic all the way.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

That's a moot point. It happened how it happened. Cardinals won. I expected them to. Don't overthink it. Other fans might have thought Astros had a chance, and for that, they can try to explain why they were watching the other series. I watched the ALCS, not the NLCS, because I knew from Day 1 of the beginning of the league championship series that it would be St. Louis representing the NL. Houston might have come close to winning and could have easily replaced St. Louis in the World Series, but did it happen? No. St. Louis won. Hence TO ME, foregone conclusion. Stop arguing my fucking opinion, because it's that... an opinion. Everyone's entitled to theirs and I'm not trying to start trouble. I'm sorry if I had better foresight than the ones that actually thought Houston could pull it off. What can I say?

[the max 0]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=f...ne%20conclusion

 

Basically, Houston even making a series out of it destroys the fact that it's even a foregone conclusion. You are entitled to your opinion, but it's a poor choice of wording it. You word it as if the Astros should have just forfeited the series to St. Louis because St. Louis was going to stomp them. As it is, St. Louis came back from a 3-2 series deficit in one of the better NLCS in the last few years. Of course, you admittedly didn't watch it (and who would want to? All those no-name players! And the fact that Boston/New York weren't involved!) so you'd have no clue as to just how close it was to being Houston v. Boston in the WS. If you HAD watched the series, you'd know that it was far from being a foregone conclusion.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=f...ne%20conclusion

 

Basically, Houston even making a series out of it destroys the fact that it's even a foregone conclusion. You are entitled to your opinion, but it's a poor choice of wording it. You word it as if the Astros should have just forfeited the series to St. Louis because St. Louis was going to stomp them. As it is, St. Louis came back from a 3-2 series deficit in one of the better NLCS in the last few years. Of course, you admittedly didn't watch it (and who would want to? All those no-name players! And the fact that Boston/New York weren't involved!) so you'd have no clue as to just how close it was to being Houston v. Boston in the WS. If you HAD watched the series, you'd know that it was far from being a foregone conclusion.

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Yeah you said it. I didn't watch because I knew it was St. Louis winning. I don't care if Houston came within a hair of winning. They didn't. Along those lines, everyone believed the Patriots would beat the Panthers. Yet the Panthers made it a hell of a game. Who still won? The Patriots. Same thing here. Houston only delayed the inevitable. I'm sorry. It happened. All this talk about it being far from a foregone conclusion means JACKSHIT because the team I expected to win had in fact....won.

[The Czech Republic 0]

...so, that said, quite a schedule of games today! Baltimore tries to keep their heads above water against the White Sox, Cubs try to stockpile (what should be) easy wins with game 3 against Arizona, Marlins try to gain ground in the wild card against the slumping Nats, and the Mets try to cool off the red-hot Astros. Yes, what a day! Now let's all be positive for two hours.

[Brett Favre 0]

The new possible deal would be:

 

Red Sox recieve:

 

Mike Cameron

Aubrey Huff

Aaron Heilman

Lastings Milledge

 

Devils Rays recieve:

 

Same 4 prospects, except instead of Milledge, it would be Boston's Hanley Ramirez.

 

Mets recieve:

 

Manny Ramirez

Danny Baez

Julio Lugo (will probably play 2nd base)

 

Well, the Red Sox got more I guess.

[devo 0]

...hm. I like that trade quite a bit for the Mets. Milledge's value isn't anywhere near where it used to be and Heilman is unbelievably inconsistent, so I wouldn't mind them giving them up for Ramirez/Baez/Lugo.

[KingPK 0]

Now that I've thought about it, I hate this deal. Especially this new proposal. I do NOT want Hanley to go ANYWHERE and if they're going to trade Manny, they should get SOME good/pretty good pitching in return that can help them this year. If they were doing this to free up a lot of money than good, but they need help in the bullpen or rotation. Unless they swing Huff or Cameron and a prospect to Florida for Burnett or get Wagner, I don't like this.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Getting rid of Manny is a horrible idea for Boston.

[Guest *KNK*]

I agree that getting rid of Manny now wouldn't serve the team any good. They are in a race right now and getting ride of one of your key pieces to the championship puzzle because he's bitching AGAIN isn't neccesary.

 

He's done this for years, it's nothing new. Get to the playoffs and he'll perform and THEN deal him away.

 

You trade him; you look like cowards for not facing the problem and not telling him to shut his mouth.

[Brett Favre 0]

Yankees rally against K-Rod for a 8-7 win. He was walking the ballpark today.

 

Also fun moment in the game was Mariano vs. Vlad. Vlad was all over the plate and Mo threw him some sweet chin music twice before striking him out with a high fastball. He got the win after the bullpen blew the lead for Chacon who pitched a quality game (6 innings, 4 hits, 3 walks, 0 ERs, and 4 Ks).