CBright7831 Posted July 28, 2005 Author Report Posted July 28, 2005 I usually end up watching this somehow every year. Last year was one of the worst shows in it's entire history!
EricMM Posted July 28, 2005 Report Posted July 28, 2005 I would just like to say that I saw that "Helena" video. I would also like to say that everything that is wrong about that video, is everything that is wrong with that whole ... sound. Which is becoming everything that is wrong about so called rock. I'd say that I've seen half to one third of these videos, none of them good. MTV has always pushed the boundries of suck in my head, but when J.Cash lost to Missy Elliot, that's when I stopped caring. Long overdue, I know, but it was just so clear. Anyone who is under the impression that MTV2 plays videos needs to watch more TV. Or perhaps is on the right path. Either way, as a previous poster said, ever since the superbowl, when that two headed dog thing appeared during halftime, it's been all about the Sunday Night Stew shows on MTV2. All Wondershowzen, Andy M. show, Wildboys and other shows like that. Suffice to say, it's no longer watched. And I would like to raise another point: What is it about "music TV" that makes it such an unmarketable product? All the "music" channels, like MTV, VH1, and MTV2 have voluntarily removed 90% of the music from their lineups. Music Videos can't be THAT unproductive, I can't imagine them costing less than a bunch of new shows every few months. What's going on? It was a bit before I got cable, but MTV used to be THE THING to watch. What happened?
SuperJerk Posted July 28, 2005 Report Posted July 28, 2005 What is it about "music TV" that makes it such an unmarketable product? All the "music" channels, like MTV, VH1, and MTV2 have voluntarily removed 90% of the music from their lineups. Music Videos can't be THAT unproductive, I can't imagine them costing less than a bunch of new shows every few months. What's going on? It was a bit before I got cable, but MTV used to be THE THING to watch. What happened? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was always under the impression MTv/VH1/whoever were provided the videos for free by the record companies. Apparently, though, "The Real 70s House World Punk'd My Newlywed's Ride" gets good enough ratings that they can charge enough for advertising to make up whatever production costs + whatever they were making from commericals when they showed videos. Also, the song "Holla Back Girl" may sound like something an 8th grader got booed off the stage for at the middle school talent show, but goddamn if Gwen don't look fine as hell in the video.
Der Kommissar Posted July 28, 2005 Report Posted July 28, 2005 All the "music" channels, like MTV, VH1, and MTV2 have voluntarily removed 90% of the music from their lineups. Hey now, you can still watch music videos on VH1, as long as you're awake between 3 and 10 in the morning, or watch their Top 20 Countdown! The funny thing is that I saw a commercial the other day for VH1 talking about how they're "all about the music!" Odd, I think if I turned on VH1, I would be more likely to see a B or C level celebrity than I would music. What happened? The same thing that's happening to a lot of the older cable stations lately. They are trying to increase their audience by showing stuff that caters to as wide of a variety of people as possible in an attempt to get ratings, or be something more than a station that caters to a certain niche. It's not a bad thing, really. There is only so much music related programming to show. Mind you, I think it's silly to go away from music programming as much as VH1 and MTV have, but at least there are other choices out there like Fuse, VH1 Classic, or the internet should someone want their music fix.
bob_barron Posted July 28, 2005 Report Posted July 28, 2005 I usually end up watching this somehow every year. Last year was one of the worst shows in it's entire history! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You could say that about every year
Damaramu Posted July 28, 2005 Report Posted July 28, 2005 Yeah but MTV doesn't cater to everyone. Yeah what they show appeals to the masses but I know I can't identify with half of the rich spoiled kids they put on their TV shows. Like Laguna Beach....that's not the majority of kids in America. But it's what every kid in America wants to be. A rich spoiled brat who has all these dramatic "problems" that are laughable to people with real problems. And MTV is the kind of promoting underage drinking. I think every show they has involves it somehow.
Boon Posted July 28, 2005 Report Posted July 28, 2005 The best video of this year was definitely Jessica Simpson's video. Muted, that thing was gold.
Black Lushus Posted July 28, 2005 Report Posted July 28, 2005 Like Laguna Beach....that's not the majority of kids in America. But it's what every kid in America wants to be. A rich spoiled brat who has all these dramatic "problems" that are laughable to people with real problems. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I never wanted to be like that... it's funny you mention this show...i was watching the season 2 premier with my wife...my comment to her was: "you know what would really shake up this show and make it a lot more entertaining? A couple of black guys!" Because, seriously, that show really sucks and needs SOMETHING...
JHawk Posted July 28, 2005 Report Posted July 28, 2005 Anybody else notice that the vast majority of this is focused on videos that have only recently been released as it is? Congratulations, you've won an award based on the last two months.
Damaramu Posted July 28, 2005 Report Posted July 28, 2005 Like Laguna Beach....that's not the majority of kids in America. But it's what every kid in America wants to be. A rich spoiled brat who has all these dramatic "problems" that are laughable to people with real problems. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I never wanted to be like that... it's funny you mention this show...i was watching the season 2 premier with my wife...my comment to her was: "you know what would really shake up this show and make it a lot more entertaining? A couple of black guys!" Because, seriously, that show really sucks and needs SOMETHING... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fuck no I don't want to be like that either. But I knew people in HS and know people in fucking college that are or want to be like that.
spiny norman Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 How can anyone hate Hollaback Girl??? Greatest song ever.
The Mandarin Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 "Blue Orchid" should sweep all its categories, logically, but it won't. I won't watch this show. Or the replay. Or the one after that.
Mole Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 It was a bit before I got cable, but MTV used to be THE THING to watch. What happened? It still is THE THING to watch ages 14-25.
Edwin MacPhisto Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 All this indignity is embarrassing, guys.
Hank Kingsley Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 A few times I've been around that track, so it's not just gonna happen like that.
EricMM Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 B A N, B A N A N A S~! I can't believe anyone likes this song. Neither Gwen Stefani or No Doubt should have made anything after that song from the "Go" soundtrack.
ant_7000 Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 That "Holla back girl" song is like a club banger. As soon as the song hits girls flood the dance floor. Its the Girls anthem this year.
Damaramu Posted July 29, 2005 Report Posted July 29, 2005 That "Holla back girl" song is like a club banger. As soon as the song hits girls flood the dance floor. Its the Girls anthem this year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What's it sound like? I've never even heard it.
tekcop Posted July 30, 2005 Report Posted July 30, 2005 I'm starting to actually warm up to "Hollaback Girl." I disliked it at first but it's actually not bad until the repetitiveness starts.
Edwin MacPhisto Posted July 30, 2005 Report Posted July 30, 2005 The backing track is great. Everything Stefani sings is, of course, useless jibba-jabba, but the arrangement itself is remarkable.
Darthtiki Posted July 30, 2005 Report Posted July 30, 2005 Hollaback Girl will prolly be the new must learn tune for all marching bands this high school football season.
NoCalMike Posted July 30, 2005 Report Posted July 30, 2005 Oh and what in the hell exactly is a "Holla back girl" ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jesus, man. Go be white somewhere else. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It has nothing to do with that really, it is not like I am confused at every day modern "lingo" or anything, I am hip, or down or whatever...lol, it is just "holla back girl" that I have honestly never even heard used in real life. I mean I have a couple guesses, but would rather just have someone explain it.
NoCalMike Posted July 30, 2005 Report Posted July 30, 2005 That "Holla back girl" song is like a club banger. As soon as the song hits girls flood the dance floor. Its the Girls anthem this year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah I bet. I am sure it empowers all the sluts in those meat markets, as they get onto the dance floor to sing and dance about how they aren't "holla back girls" immediately followed by their fifth shot of peach schnapps and a hook-up with a total stranger later that night....but hey, they aren't a "holla back girl" whatever the fuck that means anyways.
tekcop Posted July 30, 2005 Report Posted July 30, 2005 The backing track is great. Everything Stefani sings is, of course, useless jibba-jabba, but the arrangement itself is remarkable. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There we go. Someone from the music folder actually agrees with me.
Mole Posted July 30, 2005 Report Posted July 30, 2005 Why are the Killers in Best New Artist in a Video? They were nominated last year for "Somebody Told Me." Granted, it was the MTV2 award, but still.
CBright7831 Posted July 31, 2005 Author Report Posted July 31, 2005 Video Of The Year Kanye West, "Jesus Walks" Best Male Video Kanye West, "Jesus Walks" Best Female Video Shakira w/Alejandro Sanz, "La Tortura" Best Group Video Green Day, "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" Best Rap Video The Game & 50 Cent, "Hate It or Love It" Best R&B Video Alicia Keys, "Karma" Best Hip-Hop Video Common, "Go" Best Dance Video Destiny's Child, "Lose My Breath" Best Rock Video Green Day, "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" Best Pop Video I could careless Best New Artist In A Video The Game, "Dreams" MTV2 Award Akon w/Styles P, "Locked Up" Breakthrough Video Eminem, "Mosh" Best Direction In A Video Green Day, "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" (Director: Samuel Bayer) Those are my predictions. I'm usually off quite by a lot, but those are my opinions.
ant_7000 Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 That "Holla back girl" song is like a club banger. As soon as the song hits girls flood the dance floor. Its the Girls anthem this year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah I bet. I am sure it empowers all the sluts in those meat markets, as they get onto the dance floor to sing and dance about how they aren't "holla back girls" immediately followed by their fifth shot of peach schnapps and a hook-up with a total stranger later that night....but hey, they aren't a "holla back girl" whatever the fuck that means anyways. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree with that, they'll dance to track because empowering them, and then they'll turn around and dance to "Gimme that Pussy."
ant_7000 Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Video Of The Year Kanye West, "Jesus Walks" Best Male Video Kanye West, "Jesus Walks" Best Female Video Shakira w/Alejandro Sanz, "La Tortura" Best Group Video Green Day, "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" Best Rap Video The Game & 50 Cent, "Hate It or Love It" Best R&B Video Alicia Keys, "Karma" Best Hip-Hop Video Common, "Go" Best Dance Video Destiny's Child, "Lose My Breath" Best Rock Video Green Day, "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" Best Pop Video I could careless Best New Artist In A Video The Game, "Dreams" MTV2 Award Akon w/Styles P, "Locked Up" Breakthrough Video Eminem, "Mosh" Best Direction In A Video Green Day, "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" (Director: Samuel Bayer) Those are my predictions. I'm usually off quite by a lot, but those are my opinions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is the Hip Hop video and rap video separate? Does Common have break dancers and Grafitti artists in his video? I swear these non rap publications don't know shit but yet try to dictate the genre.
CBright7831 Posted August 2, 2005 Author Report Posted August 2, 2005 Video Of The Year Kanye West, "Jesus Walks" Best Male Video Kanye West, "Jesus Walks" Best Female Video Shakira w/Alejandro Sanz, "La Tortura" Best Group Video Green Day, "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" Best Rap Video The Game & 50 Cent, "Hate It or Love It" Best R&B Video Alicia Keys, "Karma" Best Hip-Hop Video Common, "Go" Best Dance Video Destiny's Child, "Lose My Breath" Best Rock Video Green Day, "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" Best Pop Video I could careless Best New Artist In A Video The Game, "Dreams" MTV2 Award Akon w/Styles P, "Locked Up" Breakthrough Video Eminem, "Mosh" Best Direction In A Video Green Day, "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" (Director: Samuel Bayer) Those are my predictions. I'm usually off quite by a lot, but those are my opinions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is the Hip Hop video and rap video separate? Does Common have break dancers and Grafitti artists in his video? I swear these non rap publications don't know shit but yet try to dictate the genre. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's what I've always wondered.
Gary Floyd Posted August 3, 2005 Report Posted August 3, 2005 More of a question than a complaint: Why wasn't Interpols video for "Evil" noiminated for anything? Believe me, more people are going to remember that video than anything else on the list of nominated videos. Also, I really hate My Chemical Romance. They're tied with Good Charlolette and Simple Plan as the "New Creed" in my book.
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