Campaign 2008

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PREDICTIONS FOR THE ELECTION

PRESIDENT (POPULAR VOTE)
OBAMA 53%
McCAIN 46%
OTHER 1%

PRESIDENT (ELECTORAL COLLEGE)
OBAMA 329
McCAIN 209

SENATE MEMBERSHIP
DEMOCRATS: 56 SEATS
REPUBLICANS: 42 SEATS
INDEPENDENTS: 2 SEATS

U.S. HOUSE
DEMOCRATS: 278
REPUBLICANS: 157

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Drudge keeps trying to push the "McCain is back ahead in the polls," angle.

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The polls are all over the place, anywhere from dead even to Obama up by double-digits. And the last few go-arounds the media polls have been dead wrong, so I'm waiting for election night. Something tells me it will be fairly close again.

 

Folks, I love my country the US with all my heart, but I'm scared of the direction we're heading. Welfare re-distribution will be reality, plus EVERYONE'S taxes are going to go up. I can live with the fact I pay taxes, but why the hell would I have to give up my share of my money to someone who doesn't pay taxes and doesn't work. And before anyone says it's just the upper 5% at $250K +, I'm hearing that number go down in recent days. I'm hearing $200K, then down to $150K. Bill Richardson gave an interview the other day having the dollar amount now be everyone over $120K. Our country was founded on the idea of making lives better for ourselves, not having it handed to them.

 

 

 

 

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Was that a joke?

 

So, you're telling me that you're scared of the direction this country could be heading towards under Obama vis-a-vis some bullshit redistributionist welfare and socialist rhetoric.

 

As for the three figures up there:

But are the three positions (250k, 200k, 120k) really inconsistent? Technically not. A classic Venn Diagram (and basic mathematical logic) would show that since everyone by definition that makes under $120,000 is below $250,000 and everyone below $200,000 is less than $250,000, the positions aren't contradictory. Neither Biden nor Richardson said that taxes would be hiked on those making less than $250,000. All they said was what groups would get tax relief. (Technically, not everyone in those groups gets tax relief under Obama's plan.)

 

Not to mention that only 1.9% of American households make over $250k a year, as this graph shows, not your purported 5%. That's bullshit. Not to mention FURTHER, that Obama is raising the tax cuts on the wealthy only back to Clinton levels. Was it redistribution then? How about under Reagan, when they were higher than Obama's proposed rate? Furthemore, it would be nice to cut taxes for everyone, but perhaps you could present another way to somehow balance the budget. John McCain proposed cutting taxes for the lower class too, is this putting money into the hands of the poor as well?

 

How can you base tax increases on the top less than 2% as the "direction" of the country? What about health care? What about the continuation of a failed foreign policy program? What about the wall street meltdown? Why would you vote for a man who's entire economic policy is based around cutting earmarks, which amount to only a microscopic amount in the federal budget?

 

Please, reconsider what fuels the direction of the United States, and perhaps it'll become obvious that John McCain is the wrong man for the job.

 

 

 

Also, do you make more than $250,000 a year? If not, please tell me where your money is going to be "handed to" the lower class under Barack Obama's tax plan, but not John McCain's tax plan.

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Drudge keeps trying to push the "McCain is back ahead in the polls," angle.

 

This is because Drudge has no clue to how to evaluate polling data and so he just cherry picks the results he likes (including today's nonsense of reporting one day of a multi-day tracking poll, which has a relatively tiny sample size and thus a large margin of error).

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Drudge keeps trying to push the "McCain is back ahead in the polls," angle.

 

This is because Drudge just cherry picks the results he likes.

 

Fixed

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That was a pointless post, pbone.

 

Who is everyone voting for in state elections? I'm probably voting Republican for state senator (the incumbent Dem has no idea how to deal with property tax reform), and the incumbent Democrat for state assembly.

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Great to hear it, bob.

 

I still can't vote.

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I remember hating the 2002 election, because I turned 18 two weeks after it ended.

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I turn 18 in February, so I'm cutting it pretty close as well.

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I remember hating the 2002 election, because the Republicans won on a platform of dick-waving and blaming Clinton for 9/11.

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Who is everyone voting for in state elections? I'm probably voting Republican for state senator (the incumbent Dem has no idea how to deal with property tax reform), and the incumbent Democrat for state assembly.

 

 

I vote Green whenever possible and if there's not a Green running, I'll vote Democrat. I really should be better educated about state and local issues...

 

I voted for Tom Allen in the U.S. Senate race. Doesn't seem like he has much of a shot anymore against Collins. Pretty remarkable that she's going to cruise to re-election considering Bush's approval ratings and the fact that Obama's going to cruise to a 10-15% victory. I voted for Chellie Pingree for Congress. My brother worked for her office and there's no Green running in that race so I figure "what the hell?"

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There should be plenty of information available, probably on wikipedia.

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http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=248

 

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http://www.tnawrestling.com/content/view/1140/84/

 

Foley's "McCain is a great aging fighter, who's tossing haymaker's trying to score a surprise KO" is a pretty good analogy

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We don't have any Senate races here.

 

For Congress, I'm probably voting Republican. I don't mind Nita Lowey, our incumbent, but she's a textbook liberal who I disagree with on everything. The Republican challenger, Jim Russell, (who I saw passing out flyers at a football game today) is anti-immigration, and for decreasing American involvement in foreign affairs. He's an isolationist, basically.

 

http://www.russellforcongress.com/index.html

 

I don't like Russell either, and there's no 3rd party, so I'm just voting Republican since I'd rather they control Congress.

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So wait, if I vote for Obama, he's going to buy my gas AND pay for my house (that I dont have yet)?

 

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SOLD!

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So wait, if I vote for Obama, he's going to buy my gas AND pay for my house (that I dont have yet)?

 

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SOLD!

 

Why wouldn't these people be able to own a house, Marv?

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Drudge keeps trying to push the "McCain is back ahead in the polls," angle.

Drudge is in "I can't believe aaaaah *head explodes" mode, and tracking every little movement he makes just gives him page views the kind of which he was boasting of just a few days ago.

 

Ignore him, and hopefully this election will ruin any credibility he ever had.

 

Folks, I love my country the US with all my heart, but I'm scared of the direction we're heading. Welfare re-distribution will be reality, plus EVERYONE'S taxes are going to go up.

Kerrrang! Wrong.

 

I can live with the fact I pay taxes, but why the hell would I have to give up my share of my money to someone who doesn't pay taxes and doesn't work.

Kerrrang! Wrong. First of all, both candidates support tax credits, but McCain's credits are refundable. Most of Obama's big tax credits are non-refundable, so people won't be "making money" from the tax system for them.

 

And before anyone says it's just the upper 5% at $250K +, I'm hearing that number go down in recent days. I'm hearing $200K, then down to $150K.

Kerrrang! Wrong. Biden sorta gaffed by saying $200K the other day. Up to $200K see a cut, between $200K and $250K is no cahnge, and from $250K and up it goes up.

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Who is everyone voting for in state elections? I'm probably voting Republican for state senator (the incumbent Dem has no idea how to deal with property tax reform), and the incumbent Democrat for state assembly.

Dems, Dems, Dems. As someone who would vote for moderate Republicans in California if they impressed me, I felt kind of sad about that. Problem is, Nevada is a very libertarian, individualist, "fuck you, I got mine" kind of state with a heavy military presence. So there aren't any Republicans I can vote for without really voting against my issues and for some kind of non-existent Ron Paul government that believes taxes are the devil's work, and doesn't care what anyone does so long as it's not gay.

 

Also, Shelley Berkley is a lot like my hometown Representative, Lynn Woolsey, in that she's so established that only amateurs who aren't going to win dare run against her.

 

The real entertainment here was all the judicial races. The corruption is simply breathtaking, and the number of Judges who don't know what Judges do or are taking bribes or are running for bench to piss off a personal enemy is incredible. I tried my best to clean it up, but part of "cleaning it up" means voting for total incompetents who will hopefully help shine a light on how awful the justice system in this area is. Everything underneath the level of state Supreme Court is fucked up.

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I voted mostly democrat except for 2 republicans. I voted against Gary Siplin cause he's a criminal and just a dumbass and against the Democrat for Sherrif because his wife is the Police Chief. That just doesn't seem right.

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Im voting for Andy Harris for USHofR and for slots so I dont have to go to Delaware.

 

 

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We don't have any Senate races here.

 

For Congress, I'm probably voting Republican. I don't mind Nita Lowey, our incumbent, but she's a textbook liberal who I disagree with on everything. The Republican challenger, Jim Russell, (who I saw passing out flyers at a football game today) is anti-immigration, and for decreasing American involvement in foreign affairs. He's an isolationist, basically.

 

http://www.russellforcongress.com/index.html

 

I don't like Russell either, and there's no 3rd party, so I'm just voting Republican since I'd rather they control Congress.

Illegal immigration is something that I'm somewhat righty on, but this guy isn't too subtle about his racism. He calls earned residence programmes amnesty, points out in his PowerPoint presentation the high levels of hispanic origins we have in our illegal immigrants, and so on. Even makes a crack about lawn maintenance.

 

I wasn't totally convinced yet, really, because everything is either a fact or a common stereotype regarding illegal immigration. But, then he also says he'll loosen legal immigration "to better accommodate those residents of European nations who wish to emigrate legally to America." In other words, he wants less latinos, more white people. Pretty freakin obvious. I have Australian and UK relatives who wish to move here but can't, and I feel immigration reform is sorely needed, but to play favourites on regions is pretty fucking racist.

 

Everything else about him seems okay but damn does that rub me the wrong way.

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So wait, if I vote for Obama, he's going to buy my gas AND pay for my house (that I dont have yet)?

For every one of her, there's five McCain voters who think a Muslim who sympathizes with terrorists is running to take over America.

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I'm still waiting for Marv to tell me why that woman wouldn't own a house.

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I'm still waiting for Marv to tell me why that woman wouldn't own a house.

 

I dont understand what you're getting at, she's got one and Obama's gonna pay her mortgage for her.

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The local Texas elections are kinda depressing. Pretty much all a bunch of far-right republican incumbents running with massive leads over their hopeless opponents. Hope and change aren't so big around here. No referendums of any kind on the ballot, either.

 

Kerrrang!

...the hell does that mean?

 

 

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You mean this guy?

 

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I'm still waiting for Marv to tell me why that woman wouldn't own a house.

 

I dont understand what you're getting at, she's got one and Obama's gonna pay her mortgage for her.

 

You said "So wait, if I vote for Obama, he's going to buy my gas AND pay for my house (that I dont have yet)"

 

Even though she says that she has a mortgage, you say that she doesn't have a house. I don't understand what that means. Pretty sure one needs a house to apply for a mortgage.

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How do you confuse I and she? I dont have a house! I rent, but if Obama's buying I'll be out looking on Wednesday.

 

anyway..

 

to shatter my dreams of home ownership, McCain had a slim 1 point lead in the Zogby poll but it was probably just a bad poll or something. Or maybe not.