This Week In Baseball

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Although Ortiz over A-Rod is not as absurd as Andruw Jones winning the award.

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Don't say that to Harold Reynolds. His reasoning was that Andruw was the veteran presence for a young team and he set a Braves single season homerun record. AND he plays great defensive centerfield.

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And without Andruw carrying the team, we'd be horrible.

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Quite honestly, all of that is true. I shouldn't mean to badmouth Ortiz or Jones because quite honestly, there's little bad to say about them. The problem is that there's one MVP per league, and they are not it.

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Phillies win 5-4. If Ed Wade trades Ryan Howard this offseason, I may have to take a baseball bat, drive over to CBP and take his knees out.

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I assume you have a better plan then? Just how do we deal with Thome's contract AND keep Howard? I like Howard as much as anyone, but it may be in the best interests of the organization to trade him, especially now that his perceived value is so high. A SF columnist wrote the Giants should go head over heals to acquire him. Trading Howard could provide long-term solutions at third base or catcher.

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It's the boneheaded thing that this organization would do. If they have to trade Howard, the last person that should be dealing him is Wade, considering how well his other deals have went. I have a feeling that if they trade Howard, Thome is going to take heaps of abuse from the media and fanbase, especially if he comes back next year and struggles.

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Although Ortiz over A-Rod is not as absurd as Andruw Jones winning the award.

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Don't say that to Harold Reynolds. His reasoning was that Andruw was the veteran presence for a young team and he set a Braves single season homerun record. AND he plays great defensive centerfield.

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He's only 28 and he has veteran presence? I thought you had to old and washed up to have veteran presence like Steve Finley. Maybe Andruw has presence but Steve Finley now he has VETERAN PRESENCE~!

 

And you know who the MVP really is? You guessed it. Frank Stallone.

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It's the boneheaded thing that this organization would do. If they have to trade Howard, the last person that should be dealing him is Wade, considering how well his other deals have went.

 

Like Kevin Stocker for Bobby Abreu?

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Just a hunch I think the Mets would trade for Thome in the offseason if the Phillies do shop him. It'd be a very Met-like type of move.

[therealworldschampion 0]

A blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

 

Inning-Endy Chavez, Mike Williams, Turk Wendell, Todd Jones, Dennis Cook, Kevin Milwood( though it did look good at the time of the trade), trading nearly all of the catcher prospects...

 

He did do a decent job of scouting for the Abreu trade, but Lee Thomas was the GM when the trade actually happened.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

A blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

 

Inning-Endy Chavez, Mike Williams, Turk Wendell, Dennis Cook, Kevin Milwood( though it did look good at the time of the trade), plenty of others...

 

He did do a decent job of scouting for the Abreu trade, but Lee Thomas was the GM when the trade actually happened.

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We didn't give up anything important for those guys though. The Byrd trade was bad, but Marlon was expendable. Lieberthal's outperformed Estrada this season. There are some questionable trades on Wade's resume, but no outright Kansas City style robberies. We got 2 very good years out of Placido Polanco, and of course the Billy Wagner trade.

[Precious Roy 0]

I'd like to think I'm a reasonable Yankees fan. What would the board say?

 

yeah, Yankee fans get some undue shit, but it's a fucking sport, who cares?

[CanadianChris 0]

The Giants had a chance to sweep the Padres and close to within 4 games, but the bullpen couldn't hold a 2-run lead in the 9th. SD won 5-4 in extras.

 

Angels just lost AGAIN.

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Ramon MARTINEZ~! hits a grand slam to put the Phillies ahead 7-0. Ryan who?

 

I'd like to think I'm a reasonable Yankees fan. What would the board say?

 

Since we tossed Anglesault, I think most Yankee fans, and baseball fans in general on this board, are quite reasonable.

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I miss Anglesault

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I fucking hate the Devil Rays.

 

GO AWAY!

[Guest Smues]

Braves lose AGAIN to Philly. I'm fearing a sweep. Thankfully Florida is getting murdered so they'll still hopefully have a 5 game lead after today, but it's disappearing fast. At least Andruw hit his 50th of the season and 300th of his career.

[CanadianChris 0]

No change in any of the AL races, except that Oakland is now 3 1/2 behind Cleveland for the wild card.

[therealworldschampion 0]

A blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

 

Inning-Endy Chavez, Mike Williams, Turk Wendell, Dennis Cook, Kevin Milwood( though it did look good at the time of the trade), plenty of others...

 

He did do a decent job of scouting for the Abreu trade, but Lee Thomas was the GM when the trade actually happened.

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We didn't give up anything important for those guys though. The Byrd trade was bad, but Marlon was expendable. Lieberthal's outperformed Estrada this season. There are some questionable trades on Wade's resume, but no outright Kansas City style robberies. We got 2 very good years out of Placido Polanco, and of course the Billy Wagner trade.

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I miss Polanco. I'd rather much see him at 3rd base right now, if Wade could've moved David Bell's contract.

 

Nice job by the Phils tonight, a win tomorrow could be huge for their confidence...

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No change in any of the AL races, except that Oakland is now 3 1/2 behind Cleveland for the wild card.

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Except Cleveland is now only 5 behind Chicago because the White Sox have been awful since August and blew a 5 run lead at KC to lose 10-9.

 

Jason

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Big props to the Rocket.

 

Considering how his day went, I think 1 ER over 6 1/3 is a damned good line.

[Guest TheDon]

Roger's mother had also been dying for the past several years and she had to be at least 80. I think Roger knew that this day was coming since 2000. I am not trying to take away from her death but it wasn't like she died right out of the blue.

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No change in any of the AL races, except that Oakland is now 3 1/2 behind Cleveland for the wild card.

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A's and Angels are in heated battle to decide who wants to win the A.L. West less now.

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Braves lose AGAIN to Philly. I'm fearing a sweep. Thankfully Florida is getting murdered so they'll still hopefully have a 5 game lead after today, but it's disappearing fast. At least Andruw hit his 50th of the season and 300th of his career.

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At least Sosa is pitching tomorrow. The Braves haven't won since braves.com started tracking the magic number. CURSED!~

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To steer the convo back to AL MVP for a moment (since I missed it a page ago), I believe it will come down to three things:

 

A) Who has the better September.

 

B) Which team makes the playoffs (If the Yankees do, it'll most likely be A-Rod. If not, it's Ortiz)

 

C) How many of the voters have a bias against DH's winning the MVP, which I'm sure there are a few.

 

I don't think Ortiz will have to worry about splitting votes with Damon and Ramirez as much, because they are rapidly falling out of the race.

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This time last week the Phillies were swept by the Astros, and fell 2.5 games out of the wild card race. They tied for the wild card lead again, and face the Marlins in Florida this weekend. Except this time we face the Marlins' good pitchers. Once again though, we dare hope the Phillies can pull this off.

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No change in any of the AL races, except that Oakland is now 3 1/2 behind Cleveland for the wild card.

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Except Cleveland is now only 5 behind Chicago because the White Sox have been awful since August and blew a 5 run lead at KC to lose 10-9.

 

Jason

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Yeah, I wrote that when Chicago was up 9-7 in the bottom of the 9th, thinking these were the Royals and there's no way they'd put up 3 runs to beat the supposed best team in the league.

 

I would LOVE to see Cleveland pull a 1995 Mariners and catch them for the division.

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This time last week the Phillies were swept by the Astros, and fell 2.5 games out of the wild card race.  They tied for the wild card lead again, and face the Marlins in Florida this weekend.  Except this time we face the Marlins' good pitchers.  Once again though, we dare hope the Phillies can pull this off.

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They're settin' us up for another fall. I can just feel it.

 

And where did Pat Burrell's newly-found plate discipline come from? Dude walked *4* times last night.

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Yeah, I wrote that when Chicago was up 9-7 in the bottom of the 9th, thinking these were the Royals and there's no way they'd put up 3 runs to beat the supposed best team in the league.

 

I would LOVE to see Cleveland pull a 1995 Mariners and catch them for the division.

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I wouldn't, but then again I'm biased.

 

Jason

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Mets lose. Can't say I'm surprised.

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They're not even going to finish with a winning record. How sad is that?

 

Mets have a difficult offseason ahead of them. They've got a bunch of holes they need to plug and not a whole hell of a lot to trade for said plugs.

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They're settin' us up for another fall. I can just feel it.

 

Philly fans need to remember we are just one of three teams here. This is not just something they can just walk into by not screwing up.