Fökai 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 This is going to be an interesting series: The Braves, who will be playing rookies and giving Dan Kolb lots of innings v. The Fish, who quit last week. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How is this different from the rest of the season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 I don't see how any kind of argument can be made that Carpenter isn't better than Willis. And I'll be the first to admit Willis had an excellent year, minus a few very small rough spots. Carpenter was more dominant while Willis was more of a leader, IMO. Plus Carpenter is in the playoffs and Willis' last big loss, came in the 9th inning and resulted in his team's meltdown and dropping out of the WC hunt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 I wouldn't know who to pick between the two. I'd like to say that Carpenter helped his team into the playoffs, but then again, how much of the Cardinals' dominance can be attributed to him? On the other hand, Willis, with near-to-identical stats, did everything in his power to get his team into the playoffs on both offense and defense. How much more can either guy do to help his team succeed? Both guys have such a strong argument - I'm happy with either guy taking it. EDIT: I wouldn't put it past the voters to ignore the rules and pick Willis because of his offensive contributions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devo 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 Carpenter 241.7 IP 2.83 ERA 204 H 18 HR 51 BB 213 K Willis 229.3 IP 2.59 ERA 204 H 10 HR 53 BB 158 K The only stat there in which Carpenter has a distinct advantage is strikeouts. There really isn't a clear-cut case for either. Edit: Of course, I'm still annoyed that Clemens isn't even in the discussion these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 My God, the Royals are TERRIBLE. If the Jays can't get back to .500 for the season, I'm going to be severely disappointed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Cubs have tied the Astros, 1-1. Phils lead the Nats 4-2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Tribe have the tying and winning runs in scoring position with no outs in the ninth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devo 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Indians tie it up! Edit: Damn. Boone hits into a Double Play. They're going to extra innings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Nomar singles to give the Cubs the lead. Tavares bobbled the ball, but Lee was thrown out trying to score from first on the play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 And Novoa promptly gives up a two-run homer. It'll be Lidge time, so I'd say this just about kills the Phillies' WC hopes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Phillies win, and the Cubs tie the game. Hope lives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Way to come through Lidge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruiserKC 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Cubs now lead Houston going into the bottom of the 9th...4-3. White Sox and Tribe tied at 1 in the bottom of the 11th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruiserKC 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 And if anyone gives a flying leap...San Diego attempts to avoid being the first team to finish below .500 in baseball and make the playoffs. They are scoreless with the Dodgers in the bottom of the 3rd...needing two wins to have a winning season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devo 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Indians have bases loaded with one out, but can't score. Going to the twelfth... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devo 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Cubs hang on to win it! Astros only have a game on the Phils now. This is great. I love that there are still three races undecided with only two games to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Man, this is how baseball should be. Cubs have been DONE forever, but I was pacing back and forth and a nervous wreck during the final innings of tonight's game. Mostly because I'd like to see Philly get the WC, but it'd be nice to see the Cubs at least end at .500. Whew, I'm spent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BruiserKC 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Bottom of the 12th...White Sox and Cleveland still tied at 1. Wow...this is awesome baseball now, been easy to get into it although my team has had their spot wrapped up for 2 weeks now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 How about you pinch hit and give Konerko or Dye a shot to give you a run? I know you don't wanna be killing your bullpen Ozzie! edit: YES! THANK YOU GLOWD! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Willie Harris triples with 1 out in the 13th, but is thrown out at home on a squeeze play gotta love Ozzie Guillen and "smartball" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 2 run double by Ross Gload, 3-1 White Sox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Finally, the White Sox get two in the top of the 13th despite Ozzie Guillen being an idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Man, it'd better not be Sox and Yankees getting the East and WC. But you just now that's how it's going to go down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devo 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Belliard hits a solo HR to bring the score to 3-2. This has been an amazing game. Edit: And now it's over, as Broussard immediately pops out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 White Sox win. Indians now a game out of the WC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 To Red Sox/Yankees fans, you're welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISportsFan 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Especially after they just complained for hours about how bad the lineup Ozzie put out there was. Also, the squeeze play was botched. There was miscommunication and Willie Harris didn't begin to break for home. So, he was a dead duck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 At least this should end all the talks about who really deserves the AL Central. The White Sox officially completely just broke away from the Indians, so if Indians win the next two, they still fall 1 game short of the White Sox. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISportsFan 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Oh, and don't get me wrong. Ozzie is still an idiot. But he's an idiot for putting Marte in games (or in tonight's case, leaving him in to start the 9th) and stuff like that. He is not an idiot for starting who he wants to start in order to get rest for his major players and trying a squeeze with a fast baserunner and a good bunter (even if it wasn't communicated properly). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 I thought I overreacted, and maybe was just frustrated, but theres a seven page thread on a Yankee board I visit that complained about the umping. In a nutshell: http://artpad.art.com/gallery/?innuv7aexj4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
