Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 X7 doesn't have Limp Bizkit's 'My Way' at all, which sucks very much. That means it's not in the intro, recap video, or build-up video for Austin-Rock. I never bought 21 on DVD, so I don't know what the original DVD was like, but this version edited out the theme song for the event. I can't remember the name. ('Big Time'?) LAME! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
res37618 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Went to FYE to buy the boxed set and Star Wars today. At first, I didn't see the box set anywhere, so I was going to just buy Volumes I-III. When I got to the counter, the person showed me the boxed set, which she had just brought out from the back. It was a little under $180 I believe. Having the WM 21 disc at the very top of the box is just as bad as it sounds when you read about it above. I haven't watched anything in full yet. I've just popped in a few just to check things out. I put in IV, and Ventura's there for commentary. I put in 13, and the one edit I saw with music and what not was the Godwinns/Hillbilly Jim edited to some random barnyard music. For some reason, they left the two promos for the April 97 IYH PPV in tact, which is really strange since they usually edit those out of every release. X7 doesn't have Limp Bizkit's 'My Way' at all, which sucks very much. That means it's not in the intro, recap video, or build-up video for Austin-Rock. Meanwhile, looking at the insert and listings for XIX, both Limp Bizkit performances are listed. I would assume that 'Crack Addict' is left there, unless WWE's allowed to use live performances as opposed to theme songs. I never bought 21 on DVD, so I don't know what the original DVD was like, but this version edited out the theme song for the event. I can't remember the name. ('Big Time'?) I bought the package for the early WM's anyway, so I'm not THAT bothered by some of the edits and blurring in the later ones. The collectors cards that come in each package are cool, though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, 16-21 I already own on DVD from the original releases, so I didn't even bother with the full boxset. I covet my original X-7 DVD, just for the fact that there's no blurring/editing and the Limp Bizkit music is intact. For some reason, that song just MADE it great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Can you check to confirm some of this? "so i got the whole boxset today. its cool to finally have them all on DVD. if u buy the full set, u get 4 TV Series boxset cases inside the big box, and they all hold WrestleMania's 1-20 in them. and on the inside of the big box, WM 21 is stuck up inside the box, almost hidden. couple things i've noticed bout these DVDs. no entrance music back then really sucked, glad everyone has some kind of music today. only thing that really sucks, is that some of the entrance themes are edited with some generic music, i guess cause of copyrights or whatever. so far i've noticed Demolition's theme edited, but if u listen hard enough, u can still hear "Here comes the Ax, and here comes the Smasher, the Demolition, walking disaster". so i dont know what the deal with that is. as far as i know, Jim Johnston made that himself. and for those that were wondering, they do keep Jesse Ventura's commentary in on all the ones he appeared in cause they actually show him as well. a lot of very noticeable vocal editing through the DVDs, and not just when WWF was said. The WrestleMania theme is slowed down for some reason on the DVD menu's Demolition's theme edited to something else slower and generic Dusty Rhodes edited with a generic theme Hulk Hogan saying WWF edited out and said WWE in an interview on WM 5 Big Boss Man's Hard Times theme was changed to the theme he had when he joined the Corporation Video tape error when converting WM 7 to the DVD, noticeable primarly during Jake Roberts' entrance for his match Jimmy Snuka was edited with some halfass generic theme every now and then u hear a little sound in the background, sounds like a video tape rewinding really fast" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNope 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2005 Demolition's theme edited to something else slower and generic Dusty Rhodes edited with a generic theme Hulk Hogan saying WWF edited out and said WWE in an interview on WM 5 Big Boss Man's Hard Times theme was changed to the theme he had when he joined the Corporation Video tape error when converting WM 7 to the DVD, noticeable primarly during Jake Roberts' entrance for his match Jimmy Snuka was edited with some halfass generic theme The only reason I can think of is that all those themes were composed at least somewhat by Jimmy Hart - not sure what the deal is but maybe WWE's licensing with him ran out or something. Please don't tell me they replaced the Hart Foundation theme (composed by Jimmy Hart) with Bret's last WWF theme. That would be awful. I'm also wondering if Koko B. Ware's theme from Wrestlemania 3 ("The Bird" by Morris Day and The Time) has been edited out. It was never edited out of previous VHS releases, which I always found odd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNope 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I've talked with some people and apparently WWE doesn't want to pay royalties to Jimmy Hart, which is why all themes composed by him were edited out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 No Demolion theme?!! That's even worse!!! GOD DAMN IT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 I've talked with some people and apparently WWE doesn't want to pay royalties to Jimmy Hart, which is why all themes composed by him were edited out. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hart wrote shawns hbks music though anyhow, I refuse to buy these dvds now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Young 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 These changes suck, certainly, but it's ridiculous to not purchase the DVDs because of those reasons if you were going to buy them before. The only thing I'm disappointed about is that I'll have to buy the set AND a regular copy of WM21 since I want them all in cases... Heh, I still haven't seen the DVD version of 21 even though I was there live. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
res37618 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 These changes suck, certainly, but it's ridiculous to not purchase the DVDs because of those reasons if you were going to buy them before. The only thing I'm disappointed about is that I'll have to buy the set AND a regular copy of WM21 since I want them all in cases... Heh, I still haven't seen the DVD version of 21 even though I was there live. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, I'm finding it hard to believe that there are people who won't buy the set just because some music has been changed, etc. I purchased the first three volumes and I can personally tell you that having all of these shows in DVD quality is well worth the few instances where things were changed for royalty issues. To me, it's no more annoying that having those ridiculous "Coliseum Video Exclusive" segments that were all over the original VHS releases, they just seemed out of place and contrived sometimes. At least the DVD's are pretty much the unedited PPV with the exception of a few music changes . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 My problem is more the issue of my VHS tapes being in fine, unedited, original PPV airing release condition. No Coliseum extras or edits, no WWE home video music edits. I'd be paying for something I already own and though I love WrestleMania's in the grand scheme of things, a lot of those shows aren't worth owning two copies of - DVD quality or not. This won't stop me from buying the set if I ever see it cheap though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 My problem is more the issue of my VHS tapes being in fine, unedited, original PPV airing release condition. No Coliseum extras or edits, no WWE home video music edits. I'd be paying for something I already own and though I love WrestleMania's in the grand scheme of things, a lot of those shows aren't worth owning two copies of - DVD quality or not. This won't stop me from buying the set if I ever see it cheap though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yea I already have the legacy set so I can deal for now. I wasnt going to buy this set right now anyhow. Maybe if it goes on sale like you guys said. I mean I both wm 20 and 21 dvds and there are several music changes. I just thought it was insane to hear that actual wwe music had been changed yknow. I get it with the "real" liscensed songs. I just wish Vince and Co would stop being so petty about things like this. such is life I guess. My anger got the better of me last night I suppose. I retract that statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Can you check to confirm some of this? The WrestleMania theme is slowed down for some reason on the DVD menu's Demolition's theme edited to something else slower and generic Dusty Rhodes edited with a generic theme Hulk Hogan saying WWF edited out and said WWE in an interview on WM 5 Big Boss Man's Hard Times theme was changed to the theme he had when he joined the Corporation Video tape error when converting WM 7 to the DVD, noticeable primarly during Jake Roberts' entrance for his match Jimmy Snuka was edited with some halfass generic theme every now and then u hear a little sound in the background, sounds like a video tape rewinding really fast" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> All of that is true, with possibly the exception of the last one about the rewinding sound.. I didn't hear it anywhere so far. The slow WM theme for the menu is slow for no particular reason.. the regular Linda McMahon version was still used for WM 13, at least. I'm disappointed to see no Instant Replay debate in the middle of WM VII, but they did include the Regis interview with Tenryu & Kitao and Trebek interview with Demolition, two things that weren't on the Legacy release. I also thought I saw a video tape error sometime during WM IX. I've only been skipping around though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyHendricks 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 My problem is more the issue of my VHS tapes being in fine, unedited, original PPV airing release condition. No Coliseum extras or edits, no WWE home video music edits. I'd be paying for something I already own and though I love WrestleMania's in the grand scheme of things, a lot of those shows aren't worth owning two copies of - DVD quality or not. This won't stop me from buying the set if I ever see it cheap though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yea I already have the legacy set so I can deal for now. I wasnt going to buy this set right now anyhow. Maybe if it goes on sale like you guys said. I mean I both wm 20 and 21 dvds and there are several music changes. I just thought it was insane to hear that actual wwe music had been changed yknow. I get it with the "real" liscensed songs. I just wish Vince and Co would stop being so petty about things like this. such is life I guess. My anger got the better of me last night I suppose. I retract that statement. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree 100%. I already own the Legacy box set, and the tapes are still in pretty good condition. No, they aren't DVD quality, and I have to fast forward through half of WM III to get to Savage/Steamboat, but it's still a good set. The only drawback is that XV-21 aren't included. However, I have the PPV tape of each of those, so it isn't like I'm missing any. If they had released each WM, either on it's own or in this box set as a "Special Edtion" type of release, with an extra disc of stuff, commentaties by the participants, an extra disc with a 4 hour WrestleMania documentary, etc.---Then I would rob a bank to get this on release day. But they didn't. What we got instead was simply each WM in DVD quality. Sure, that's good and all, but what's my reasoning for plunking down $150 for this set, when I did the same thing 5 years ago for the Legacy set and still enjoy THAT? This just isn't enough of an improvement for me to pay top dollar for. Now, like others have said, if I can find it for say, $75 bucks, then I might go for it. But I'm not going to "double dip" as most DVD nuts say, for a new edition that really doesn't bring anything new to the table. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ravenlo 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 Exactly. The best way to go is to get the original ppv broadcast of each WM(especially the first 7), and convert them to dvd(that's what I did) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 1.) So what's the word on the Wrestlemania 11 DVD? Is it the original PPV broadcast? 2.) I'm assuming all the Wrestlemania DVDs have the WWE logo in the corner or the classic WWF logo? 3.) Is Wrestlemania 14 blurred? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 These changes suck, certainly, but it's ridiculous to not purchase the DVDs because of those reasons if you were going to buy them before. The only thing I'm disappointed about is that I'll have to buy the set AND a regular copy of WM21 since I want them all in cases... Heh, I still haven't seen the DVD version of 21 even though I was there live. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, I'm finding it hard to believe that there are people who won't buy the set just because some music has been changed, etc. I purchased the first three volumes and I can personally tell you that having all of these shows in DVD quality is well worth the few instances where things were changed for royalty issues. To me, it's no more annoying that having those ridiculous "Coliseum Video Exclusive" segments that were all over the original VHS releases, they just seemed out of place and contrived sometimes. At least the DVD's are pretty much the unedited PPV with the exception of a few music changes . . . <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I object to the music changes based on the fact the DVD set costs $200. If it was cheaper, then it would be harder to complain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 I'm glad that Ventura's commentary is on the dvd's, It would be horrible if it wasn't, but the edited stuff will hold me back from buying the dvd's for awhile. I can't stand edited stuff like the music and the edited out "WWF" will bug the hell out of me. I'm nitpickly like that, for example the ECW one night stand stuff. I have both the live ppv on tape and the DVD. I can barely watch the dvd, I rater watch everything intact and unedited. I think the Wrestlemania dvd's would be best as a gift from someone, I don't I would be completely happy spending my own money on a set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 2.) I'm assuming all the Wrestlemania DVDs have the WWE logo in the corner or the classic WWF logo? 3.) Is Wrestlemania 14 blurred? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 2. Yes, I believe the WWE logo is in every corner I saw. 3. I haven't watched any of it yet, but it most definitely is.. just not as much as the ones after that. This was the last WM to have the block logo on the turnbuckles, so we don't have to worry about that one. The scratch logo is still many other places though (announce table, WM logo, match graphics, etc.). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
res37618 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 2.) I'm assuming all the Wrestlemania DVDs have the WWE logo in the corner or the classic WWF logo? 3.) Is Wrestlemania 14 blurred? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 2. Yes, I believe the WWE logo is in every corner I saw. 3. I haven't watched any of it yet, but it most definitely is.. just not as much as the ones after that. This was the last WM to have the block logo on the turnbuckles, so we don't have to worry about that one. The scratch logo is still many other places though (announce table, WM logo, match graphics, etc.). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I found the oddball thing about WM 14 to be the editing done during Taka Michinoku's match vs. Aguila - they edit out his music for something even more generic than the original, and Finkel does a voiced-over ring entrance. I vaguely remember his music being something kinda generic to begin with, so I found this to be really odd . . . As for the blurring on 14, it's not too bad. They hadn't gone full-force with the scratch logo yet, so luckily it's not hacked all to pieces. 15 is a different story though :-) I've got the original DVD's of 16-21, thankfully, because trying to watch my favorite WM (17) with all of that blurring would drive me insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 Re: Possible tape error for WM IX. I know the copy I have with the Collection does this really weird jump when Beefcake and IRS are crawling to make a tag... it just jumps instantly to Hogan being in the ring punching DiBiase. Something like that, anyway. Is this what you think you may have noticed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 Re: Possible tape error for WM IX. I know the copy I have with the Collection does this really weird jump when Beefcake and IRS are crawling to make a tag... it just jumps instantly to Hogan being in the ring punching DiBiase. Something like that, anyway. Is this what you think you may have noticed? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Couldn't have been that since I didn't watch the match. What I was talking about was actually the static lines coming across the screen for about 1-2 seconds. I want to say it's during the Money Inc. interview or during the entrances for that match, but I might be mixed up. Now, the tape error for WM VII during Jake's entrance, the whole picture gets blurry/shaky for a second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 I know the copy I have with the Collection does this really weird jump when Beefcake and IRS are crawling to make a tag... it just jumps instantly to Hogan being in the ring punching DiBiase. Something like that, anyway. Is this what you think you may have noticed? This is the one noticeable edit in the collection that I have as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 The turnbuckles still had the original block logo at WM14 I do believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2005 I know the copy I have with the Collection does this really weird jump when Beefcake and IRS are crawling to make a tag... it just jumps instantly to Hogan being in the ring punching DiBiase. Something like that, anyway. Is this what you think you may have noticed? This is the one noticeable edit in the collection that I have as well. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> IIRC, it made that edit/jump in every WM tape on the Collection. For the first 8 of them, it was during intermission. But for the rest of them, it'd come at some random point about halfway through the show. And WMXIV did indeed have the block logo on the turnbuckles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted November 4, 2005 my collection tape for 9 doesnt do a cut during the hogan match. but youre right in the rest of them there is a cut-for intermission. and some interviews are cut out in some of the shows (like regis and tenryu/kitap, but it does have the instant replay debate) takas is edited what the hell? vince stop being so damn cheap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted November 4, 2005 my collection tape for 9 doesnt do a cut during the hogan match. but youre right in the rest of them there is a cut-for intermission. and some interviews are cut out in some of the shows (like regis and tenryu/kitap, but it does have the instant replay debate) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> On the Collection (I-XIII), Regis's interviews are in tact. He also interviewed The Undertaker and Paul Bearer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted November 4, 2005 oops I meant I have the legacy set not the collection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
claydude14 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2005 The deepdvddiscount.com sale is going on now. The anthology comes to 125.74 with free shipping. Some of the codes you can use are ESPN USATODAY DVDTALK YAHOO DVDSALE SUPERSALE USWEEKLY I couldn't turn the set down for that price even with bluramania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
res37618 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2005 The deepdvddiscount.com sale is going on now. The anthology comes to 125.74 with free shipping. Some of the codes you can use are ESPN USATODAY DVDTALK YAHOO DVDSALE SUPERSALE USWEEKLY I couldn't turn the set down for that price even with bluramania. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, that's a helluva price. Actually less than I paid for the first three volumes, plus tax, at Wal-Mart - that came out to almost $140 . . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHK 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2005 The sale excludes pre-orders, so for those of you that don't have the WM set and are interested in the Bret Hart DVD, the sale runs until 11.20 so wait until Tuesday and get both for 20% off. The total for both comes to $140.85, which is quite the steal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites