benoit4hor 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 I personally liked RAW better on Spike. (petty random complaints below) It may be my T.V. but I have to turn it almost all the way up to even hear the USA network. If I switch over to Spike the sound is blarring. Allthough I hated some of the commercials on Spike, the USA commercials are even worse. There's no other programming on USA I care about so I don't like giving them any of my ratings. I now miss the first 5 or so minutes of TUF. Anyone else wish they didn't move? The only positive I can think of is that if they didn't move, Impact wouldn't have been picked up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 They seem to let a lot more language fly on USA. Also they get more of an over-run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 Actually, I'm pretty sure WWE themselves wished they didn't move because at least when they were on Spike, they were getting ad revenue. Under the new USA deal, they don't see a dime of ad rev. to the tune of $20 million loss every year for the next 5 they are under USA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 They seem to let a lot more language fly on USA. Also they get more of an over-run. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> not really the show ended (on my watch) at about 11:06 PT, which was basically the standar endtime on spike (about 11:06-11:08) I thinkl the picture and sound may depend on your cable/sat company, but on my TV spike comes in much clearer than USA and a bit louder as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 The irony is that it's the opposite with me: on Spike TV (Ch. 41) the sound is really shitty but then on USA it's fine. As far as the ad revenue goes, the whole USA deal was insane. If I'm Vince I wouldn't be in THAT much of a rush to leave Spike, not to the tune of 20 million in lost ads a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 I always liked watching RAW better on USA than Spike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook_Theta Report post Posted October 11, 2005 Isn't WWE going to end up running some specials on NBC though, since USA-NBC are under the same umbrella corporation? Yeah that lost money is a real pisser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 The video quality on USA Network around here is superb compared to SpikeTV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 There's no other programming on USA I care about so I don't like giving them any of my ratings.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> So you have a nielsen box eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 The network doesn't matter, only the show. It isn't like sports coverage where the network runs the show and sometimes makes a mess of things (see ESPN Sunday Night Football). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benoit4hor 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 There's no other programming on USA I care about so I don't like giving them any of my ratings.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> So you have a nielsen box eh? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, but I don't believe in that theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 What theory? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benoit4hor 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 That they're not watching us, unless we have the nielson box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Astro7x 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 People that don't understand how ratings are calculated are funny... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benoit4hor 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 People that don't understand how ratings are calculated are funny... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats because they either work at a network or they're wrestling fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 So you are a moron? I keed, I keed. But seriously... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, HOLD UP!!!! Benoit4hor........ you don't like "Monk"?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Epic Reine 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 USA is a one show wonder. When Raw was on USA before the move to Spike, they didn't have any other interesting programs at that time either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 I like the new graphics, and it's nice that they changed the set, even slightly. I've also noticed that the picture quality on USA seems to be better on Spike, but that's about it. Now if WWE would just start putting out a more cohesive product on RAW, it would be a winner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 Has anyone else noticed that the stage and ramp are to the right of the hard camera now, as opposed to the left like before? Maybe it was just the last two arenas they were in, but it seems they switched it when they moved to USA. If they would have done a few other small things, it would have made that much more of a difference. -New music for the opener -A new Raw logo -Raw logo on the mat or turnbuckle pads -New chyron graphics to correspond with the new logo and look These would not have been outrageous changes made to the show (like a totally new set, screen, getting rid of the ramp, etc.), but would have given a brand new feel to the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NitroJMS Report post Posted October 12, 2005 Isn't WWE going to end up running some specials on NBC though, since USA-NBC are under the same umbrella corporation? Yeah that lost money is a real pisser. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I already think that USA has given a bigger push to WWE than Spike/Viacom has in the past 2-3 years. I've noticed alot of WWE on USA ads on NBC the past few weeks, even on their bigger shows like Law and Order and SNL. You never saw WWE promos on CSI over on CBS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 Perhaps if digital cable actually entailed that all channels were infact digital quality then there wouldnt be a difference lol. but for some reason here, my upn channel (kcop 13 LA) is now in digital quality (well that one and the home shopping channel for some reason) if you have a box (only have one in the living room, not in my room where I watcch and tape the shows), which means smackdown looks way better then it ever did before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 You can bet that "specials on NBC" has a loophole clause that'll piss off the WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 I really hope it means the return of a "Saturday Night's Main Event"-type show. A show every three or four months would be great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I miss Test. Report post Posted October 12, 2005 USA is a one show wonder. When Raw was on USA before the move to Spike, they didn't have any other interesting programs at that time either. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No. USA has actual sporting events like the US Open, Masters and various other golf events that alone put it ahead of the garbage Spike had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 USA has those mentioned sporting events, Monk, and the new Kojak (which I thought was above average, but not great.) I have never watched The 4400 or Dead Zone, but I have heard a lot of people talk about them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2005 It seems like the alledged "specials on (insert broadcast network)" are talked about every time WWE strikes up a new TV deal, but they never come about (other than a few "best of" shows on UPN). In other words, I really wouldn't hold your breath for a return of Saturday Night's Main Event, folks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2005 Yeah, like NBC wants stuff that can potentially be more embarassing than the XFL games on their network. If anything Vince should realize why the big 3 won't touch his product. That doesn't even make him smarten up. I guess he likes being number one on UPN and other inferior channels. We'll just get Mcmahon vs. Mcmahon on SNME. Let my memories of SNME remain as they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2005 People that don't understand how ratings are calculated are funny... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Like leaving a TV on tuned into the Dog Show on USA back in the day, just to counter-balance the ratings cuz your watching Nitro on the other TV. I know people who did that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2005 (edited) Eh, forget it, I was going way off topic Edited October 13, 2005 by Masked Man of Mystery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
