Another activist makes an ass of himself

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Quote, from an appearance that African-American activist Kamau Kambon made on C-SPAN:

 

“... And we have to start thinking about a solution to the problem. So that these young sisters and brothers are here now, who are 15, 16, 17... are not here 25 years later talking about these same problems.

 

Now, how do I know that the white people know that we are going to come up with a solution to the problem? I know it because they have retina scans, racial profiling, DNA banks, and they’re monitoring our people to try to prevent the ONE person from coming up with the ONE idea. And the one idea is how we are going to exterminate white people, because that, in my estimation, is the only conclusion I have come to. We have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet to solve the problem. Now, I don’t care whether you clap or not, but I’m saying to you that we need to solve this problem because they are going to kill us. And I will leave on that. So, we just have to set up our own system and stop playing and get very serious and not get diverted from coming up with a solution to the problem... and the problem on the planet is white people.”

 

That's not the problem. The problem is that humans of all races, colours and creeds are letting too many stupid people have airtime on TV.

 

Can't we just make a rule that states that people have to take an IQ test and register above zilch before appearing on the airwaves? Come ON. There's just no excuse to say things like that.

[EricMM 0]

I'm a problem?

 

My bad...

[dubq 0]

Oh, me and my crazy retina scans...

[Sideburnious 0]

Do you know what type of reaction he got for the speech?

[Vyce 0]

I demand the President make an apology for these racially insensitive remarks.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

I demand the President make an apology for these racially insensitive remarks.

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God you're getting dumber with every post, you know that?

 

 

 

Anyway, sorry for being part of the problem. Guess I'll go clean up the mess I made before it gets worse. Or something.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Kill Whitey.

[2GOLD 0]

Free South Africa!

[SuperJerk 0]

The problem is that humans of all races, colours and creeds are letting too many stupid people have airtime on TV.

 

Can't we just make a rule that states that people have to take an IQ test and register above zilch before appearing on the airwaves? Come ON. There's just no excuse to say things like that.

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Why should I care if some guy I've never heard of makes an ass out of himself on TV? Free speech is beautiful thing because it makes it easier to identify the idiots.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Free whitey!

[The Czech Republic 0]

(With purchase of darkie of equal or lesser value)

[BruiserKC 0]

I think he was just bitter he didn't make Letterman's "Stupid Human Tricks" or the understudy to Gene Gene the Dancing Machine from the Gong Show.

[Ravenbomb 0]

Ok, who the hell told him about the retina scans and DNA banks?! That was supposed to be secret!

[Art Sandusky 0]

Hey, he's right. White people fucked up this planet. I don't endorse wiping out any race, but dude's right on that part.

[Dogbert 0]

Hey, he's right. White people fucked up this planet. I don't endorse wiping out any race, but dude's right on that part.

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Yeah, I agree. There's just no excuse for advocating the extermination of a race, no matter how destructive it is.

[Special K 0]

Sadly, this nation is full of fucking stupid people. People who are content to revel in the failing of others rather than better themselves. That's just the way it is. Also, our TV sucks.

 

On that note, The Europeans simply became the most technologically advanced people on the planet. That's pretty much it. Had to go through a really fun industrial revolution for it. But that's just the way it is. If it hadn't happened, we'd be 'living under the thumb' of the Chinese and Japanese, who would have soon had their own industrial revolution. Hey, look at India who is adapting and becoming an informational powerhouse, and China who is adapting and becoming an industrial powerhouse. They're DOING something about it, besides whinging about racism. Grow up you fucking baby. If a black man comes up with cold fusion, he'll be the greatest physicist known to man. He also won't be from an African nation.

[Art Sandusky 0]

The acheivements are great, but the methodology was all quite lacking.

[Sandman9000 0]

The only correct answer to the salvation of the world is the banning of pants.

[I like Forums 0]

I don't want to live in a world that doesn't include slutty white girls.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Hey, he's right. White people fucked up this planet.

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Oh, not this again.

[Justice 0]

Free whitey!

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"In other news today, Whitey Ford was released by his captors after a 34 day stand-off..."

 

And for people who say "White People fucked up the world...":

 

Humans fucked up the world. It's the same as if you said 'Christianity fucked up the world'. It didn't, it's just in the majority. Whoever there is more of, the better chance they have of fucking things up because there are simply more of them.

 

Then again, it's Kotz, so I don't understand why I'm even trying this.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Hey, he's right. White people fucked up this planet. I don't endorse wiping out any race, but dude's right on that part.

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Brilliant analysis.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

OK, because it's been brought up, I need to weigh in.

 

Let me preface this by saying I'm not a racist. I believe the US is the greatest nation on earth, and that there's room for people of all races and colors within our borders.

 

That said, the black movement is irrelevant in this country at this point in history, and idiots like that aren't doing it any favors. I'm sorry, but slavery ended almost 150 years ago. It's time to stop blaming the slavemaster and start looking at what your own people are doing to better themselves. Yes, there is still racism. But clearly many blacks are so mind numbingly racist against whites that they can't look at their own problems. Furthermore, the black race isn't even the biggest minority in this country anymore (Hispanics are), so the unfortunate reality is that black causes will move further and further into the background.

 

You want to exterminate white people? OK...what have black nations done lately that is so great? What have they contributed to the world? Look at Africa, the natural bastion of the black race...it is a literal checker board of tribalism and dictatorships. Many peoples on that continent haven't even advanced past the stages of basic hunter/gathering.

 

Sure, the Europeans did a lot of harm by colonizing Africa, supposedly. But one fact that is never brought up is that the Europeans brought many things like literacy, and irradicated disease. Many of those same diseases that were nearly wiped out by the Europeans have come back because the Africans have regressed so badly.

 

Look at what happened in Rhodesia...it was a country created by whites, and was moving toward integration of blacks. But, the blacks decided they didn't want that and replaced it with Robert Mugabe's dictatorship. More than 25 years later, the people of Zimbabwe still are not free. Do you still want to pretend that black nations somehow have some sort of moral superiority to the USA, when that continent is full of examples similar to the one I just illustrated?

 

At some point blacks in the US need to pull themselves up. I understand that even in the '50s and '60s in the US, blacks were discriminated against and segregation was a harsh reality. But what about since then? Do blacks want the white man to pull them up, or do they want to pull themselves up? What are they doing about their own self destructive culture that glorifies violence and shuns education? Not enough, apparently.

 

Maybe it is jealousy. White people, starting in Europe, created new inventions and changed the world, and made their societies better. Yes, attrocities were commited as Europeans advanced, and often indiginous peoples died off or were driven away, but that has happened repeatedly throughout history in every corner of the world. To say otherwise is being close minded.

 

African nations still ask for handouts and do nothing to make their nations better themselves. It's not enough to point fingers and blame nature. At some point you have to do something for yourself. Sure, we could give them more money, but it inevitably goes to feed a dictator's army, or to fund terrorists, or into a monarch's coffers. We Americans are sick of our money being used to help other countries.

 

Someone should punish this Kamau Kambon person who made those remarks. They are completely divisive, and do nothing to advance the cause of his own people. Clearly he has some kind of mental disorder. It just goes to show how far to the left some parts of the black community have gone in 2005.

[Justice 0]

Hey, he's right. White people fucked up this planet. I don't endorse wiping out any race, but dude's right on that part.

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Brilliant analysis.

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I dub thee "King of the Two-Word Post".

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Invader3K, African and black American are not one and the same and the way you used them interchangeably was weird.

 

Anyway, yes, slavery has been over for 150 years, but Jim Crow has only been gone for about 40. Many of the same people who voted for segregationist candidates for President & other offices & opposed integration are still alive and, in some cases, in positions of power.

 

Onto Africa.

 

The European legacy of colonialism was very harmful to Africa. They were basically left with no infrastructure and the Berlin Conference carved up the continent in arbitrary ways that often exacerbated political tensions. Also, keep in mind that many African states did not receive independence until as recently as the 1970s, so they have not been given much time to develop.

 

And you suggest that we should cut off aid to Africa because of corruption. But a lot of the poor governance & other problems that exist in Africa exist because of its recent colonial legacy (for example, colonial favoritism of Hutus in Rwanda is considered to be a major factor leading to the genocide there)

 

There is an ongoing debate in the development community:

 

does corruption-->poverty

OR poverty---->corruption

 

Sachs, in his The End of Poverty, makes a strong case for the latter. Precedent for post-colonial development is being set by the Asian "Tiger" economies (who received independence much earlier than Africa) that development is possible. And aid to Africa has not been increasing. Aid fell 48% over the course of the 90s. Hopefully, the G8 strides will prove beneficial.

 

I think that people who want to abandon Africa are "blaming the victim."

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Hey, he's right. White people fucked up this planet. I don't endorse wiping out any race, but dude's right on that part.

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Brilliant analysis.

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I dub thee "King of the Two-Word Post".

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Do I do that a lot?

[Dobbs 3K 0]

I understand African-Americans and black Africans are different entities, but I thought it was valid to discuss both groups since the person cited in the original post seemed to insinuate that all whites are one analagous, and evil, group.

 

As for your short comments about corruption and poverty...I always thought most people said wealth leads to corruption? Which is it? Does poverty or wealth lead to corruption? It doesn't matter. It is up to a civilization in and of itself to forge ahead. The US can provide technical assistance and training, but I'm tired of seeing our dollars going to dictatorships. No more Live Aid concerts, please.

 

As an aside, I feel ulimately Africa must unite if they are truly going to forge ahead. Put aside the ancient tribalism, overthrow the dictators and monarchs, and create a United States of Africa, at least on regional basises (an idea which ironically has been put forth by Libya's Kadaffi (sp?)). Granted, this will probably never happen in our lifetimes, but they should look to the US and EU as examples.

 

I guess my general feeling is that if most of the world hates America, then fine, let them. America does more for the world, and gives more aid in dollars then any other entity in the world. We give more troops to the UN than any other nation. Yet many world leaders continue to spout off about how wicked the US is, and how our policies are supposedly doing the harm.

 

I think it is time for the US to take care of Americans for a time, at least, and let the rest of the world take care of itself. That goes for Africa as well as the rest of the world. Let them come crawling and begging us when they need it, so they can once again acknowledge the glory of the United States of America, and they will learn once again that we truly are the greatest nation on earth.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

As for your short comments about corruption and poverty...I always thought most people said wealth leads to corruption? Which is it? Does poverty or wealth lead to corruption? It doesn't matter.

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Every developed country was more corrupt prior to its development.

 

 

This is a map from Transparency International. The darker the red the more corrupt the country is. Notice that all of the wealthiest countries in the world (US, Canada, W. Europe, Japan, Scandinavia) are not very corrupt.

 

It DOES matter whether corruption begets poverty or poverty begets corruption. If corruption-->poverty then giving aid to Africa is useless, as you have suggested. If poverty-->corruption (which the map would seem to indicate) then we can help countries become less corrupt by helping them develop.

 

As an aside, I agree with you that monies shouldn't be given to corrupt governments. Development could probably be better accomplished through the action of NGOs, Grameen Banks, etc.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Double post...so, uh, how 'bout those Colts?

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Interesting, though I wonder how they defined corruption and measured it in their study. Also, I see flaws in that map. Some wealthier nations in the world are dark red on that map (Saudi Arabia as an example).