The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 So who else do we need? Reggie Sanders, Sidney Ponson, Kirk Reuter, Livan Hernandez, Kenny Lofton, Bill Mueller... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 If the NY papers are true, Ryan is using the yankees as a negotiating tactic, and doesn't want to set up for Rivera. Why do I just have the feeling this bullpen is going to absolutley suck next year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 If the NY papers are true, Ryan is using the yankees as a negotiating tactic, and doesn't want to set up for Rivera. Why do I just have the feeling this bullpen is going to absolutley suck next year? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because the Yankees will not free Colter Bean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 I don't know why he'd use them as a negotiating ploy - he's bound to be grossly overpaid by somebody regardless of what he does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 Hey, I would have liked to pick up Eyre, and his numbers don't look that flukey, it was his best year yeah, but he's been pretty consistent this decade....but fuck, that's a lot of money for a specialist reliever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 Turns out it's a three-year, $11 million deal, not two years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 Unless the Cubs someone sign Jesus Christ to play in the outfield, that group out there really worries me. Although I can live with Hairston in left, but I can live with any version of a lead-off hitter when it comes to the Cubs. I have no problem with Eyre over three years, but two years would have made me question their sanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 I'm just haunted at the thought of a Matsui/Giles/Sheff outfield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 Just as a courtisey, I'm not going to mention that the Cubs lose their first round draft pick to the Giants for signing Eyre. I'm just haunted at the thought of a Matsui/Giles/Sheff outfield. From the quality of their offense or lack of defense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 I'd imagine lack of defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-b...ov=ap&type=lgns Chipper Jones is a great man I really hope the Braves can pick up Trevor Hoffman. Given our horrible bullpen, I think having a dependable closer will help. I still think Furcal is gonna leave though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 Yeah, taking on an aging one-inning guy who is demanding everything but the moon seems like a logical move for the always cost-cutting Atlanta Braves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 That's what I was thinking. There's a reason the Padres aren't falling over themselves to retain Hoffman's services. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 How bad is Brian Giles on defense? Because he would make this one hell of a lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 Yeah, taking on an aging one-inning guy who is demanding everything but the moon seems like a logical move for the always cost-cutting Atlanta Braves. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well we need a closer, and if he's the only one available, go for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 There are quite a few other closers available B.J. Ryan Billy Wagner Jose Mesa Bob Wickman Ugeuth Urbina Braden Looper Octavio Dotel is also a FA, and supposedly he's recovering from TJ surgery pretty fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 Newsday is reporting Pavano is miserable in NY, and wants to be traded. Give him his wish Cashman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 There are quite a few other closers available B.J. Ryan Billy Wagner Jose Mesa Bob Wickman Ugeuth Urbina Braden Looper Octavio Dotel is also a FA, and supposedly he's recovering from TJ surgery pretty fast. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think for the time being, it's fair to count out Urbina. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 Newsday is reporting Pavano is miserable in NY, and wants to be traded. Give him his wish Cashman. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's not news. He told I-Rod that he was miserable in NY back when the Yankees played at Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2005 How bad is Brian Giles on defense? Because he would make this one hell of a lineup. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Giles has played 36 games in center field over the last four seasons. Considering he turns 35 in January, I doubt a return full time would do him good. Besides, how many more runs do the Yankees need when they already finished second in the league last year? Their outfield defense was their big problem last year, as it exacerbated their pitching woes. A real center fielder could shave a few points off the team ERA as a whole. There are quite a few other closers available B.J. Ryan Billy Wagner Jose Mesa Bob Wickman Ugeuth Urbina Braden Looper Octavio Dotel is also a FA, and supposedly he's recovering from TJ surgery pretty fast. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Like another person said, count out Urbina. Wickman also is unlikely to sign outside of Cleveland. I wouldn't count on Mesa, as his ERAs have been below league average for two of the last three years. I would add Tom Gordon to the list however. He still has good stuff and past closing experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2005 Newsday is reporting Pavano is miserable in NY, and wants to be traded. Give him his wish Cashman. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's not news. He told I-Rod that he was miserable in NY back when the Yankees played at Detroit. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Isn't this the kid from Conneticut who is fulfilling his boyhood dream of donning the pinstripes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2005 I think it was just his parents that were Yankee fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2005 Big rumor out of Miami that the Marlins may trade Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell to the Rangers for Hank Blalock and Thomas Diamond. I will throw up in my mouth if that happens. Blalock is awful away from their launching pad and the Marlins have no less than 5 pitchers in the minors who are more likely to be MLB stars than Diamond will ever be. Luckily, no one out of Texas has said anything about it..so I'm thinking it's garbage. It has to be, for my sanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2005 Damn, I'd love Josh Beckett on the Yankees. I didn't know he was available. Great trade for the Rangers if it's actually being talked about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2005 Big rumor out of Miami that the Marlins may trade Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell to the Rangers for Hank Blalock and Thomas Diamond. I will throw up in my mouth if that happens. Blalock is awful away from their launching pad and the Marlins have no less than 5 pitchers in the minors who are more likely to be MLB stars than Diamond will ever be. You think so? I'd rank Scott Olsen above Diamond, but that's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2005 I think the deal would be a winner for the Marlins just so they could dump Lowell's bloated contract. Cards have told Brian Giles that they're looking at pitching now, so I guess that'd make the Yankees the frontrunners to get him and improve that lousy offense. They could afford the loss of defense, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2005 Big rumor out of Miami that the Marlins may trade Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell to the Rangers for Hank Blalock and Thomas Diamond. I will throw up in my mouth if that happens. Blalock is awful away from their launching pad and the Marlins have no less than 5 pitchers in the minors who are more likely to be MLB stars than Diamond will ever be. You think so? I'd rank Scott Olsen above Diamond, but that's it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> May have been slightly exaggerating with 5, but 1) Olsen 2) Josh Johnson 3) Chris Volstad 4) Aaron Thompson The last two are just a guess, but both project just as highly as Diamond - especially Volstad. I hate the trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2005 Matsui did play center in Japan, but I really would have liked someone like Milton Bradley, Brad Wilkerson, or Jeremy Reed though. Bradley is the total package. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2005 May have been slightly exaggerating with 5, but 1) Olsen 2) Josh Johnson 3) Chris Volstad 4) Aaron Thompson The last two are just a guess, but both project just as highly as Diamond - especially Volstad. I hate the trade. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I notice your list is numbers two through five of Baseball America's rankings of the Marlins' system. Josh Johnson is the closest match. He's got the same level of control as Diamond. But Johnson's career minor league strikeout ratio is 7.29 per 9 innings. Diamond's ratio is 10.86. Diamond's practically unhittable, his mediocre AA debut aside. As for Thompson and Volstad, I haven't seen them personally, but I can not possibly justify rating two pitchers with a cup of coffee apiece in the NY-Penn League above a hurler with nearly 200 professional innings above his belt. Volstad and Thompson may be very good, but it is a long way to the major leagues. Diamond's a better bet. Matsui did play center in Japan, but I really would have liked someone like Milton Bradley, Brad Wilkerson, or Jeremy Reed though. Bradley is the total package. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm convinced Marlon Byrd is the perfect fit. His batting line last year would look closer to 270/330/400 outside of RFK Stadium, and when you really need a fly chaser, he could be a tremendous asset, for pennies on the dollar. All he needs is an honest chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted November 19, 2005 Blalock for Beckett straight up should be fine. If I'm Texas then I don't want to get rid of Diamond, nor do I want Lowell's contract. Texiera just won a glove at first base but his natural position was third base. He could always go back to third and they can have Adrian Gonzales play first base. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites