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Petition to have Colin Cowherd fired...

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Yeah but how many of those came off as intelligent and how many were "LOL COWPATTIE SUX0RS!"

 

Good point.

 

Stupidest thing I've ever heard.

 

You're a terrible liar.

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I think he indirectly approached this subject on the show today during the steroids talk.

 

Basically, The Herd is "big boy radio" and some people "get it" while others don't. Some people take everything seriously and get offended while some are able to see the big picture and debate something with him. All of the people signing ridiculous petitions to get him fired obviously never have and never will listen to The Herd. He spouts off things that are borderline offensive, but as he said today "if you don't like it, change the dial. I was brought in here to do what I do and I don't plan on going anywhere. I get yelled at on a daily basis. Doesn't bother me. I get email after email "COLIN, YOU'VE OFFENDED ME!"" and so on. Basically, he's not going anywhere and neither he nor his bosses care. So why waste your time?

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Guest Leelee

Precisely. Talk radio nowadays is basically just for scumbags.

 

And Colin wins because now thousands and thousands more people know who he is.

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ESPN doesn't care what people say. Tons of people contacting the FCC might do something, although I doubt it will be anything other than a fine.

 

If his family wants to they can sue the guy for slander and defimation of character since he'd have a hard time proving Eddie took steroids.

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But can the family prove Eddy DID NOT take them?

They don't have to. In a defimation of character lawsuit, the person being sued and claiming somebody is something or did something needs to prove it beyond the shadow of a doubt. If they can't then they lose.

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Wait! Forget Cowherd, there are two Boston talk-show hosts that were making fun of him even worse, and then had to joke about..."at least he didnt fall from the rafters...SPLAT." Now that quote really hit me in the face, though I am sure 90% percent of you have already heard it. Then again Cowherd is on all around the nation...I'll send as much hate mail as possible.

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Wait! Forget Cowherd, there are two Boston talk-show hosts that were making fun of him even worse, and then had to joke about..."at least he didnt fall from the rafters...SPLAT." Now that quote really hit me in the face, though I am sure 90% percent of you have already heard it. Then again Cowherd is on all around the nation...I'll send as much hate mail as possible.

 

I haven't heard that, but I bet it was Denis and Callahan. They're both racist assholes.

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But can the family prove Eddy DID NOT take them?

They don't have to. In a defimation of character lawsuit, the person being sued and claiming somebody is something or did something needs to prove it beyond the shadow of a doubt. If they can't then they lose.

This is not true. I studied all summer for my LSAT to get into law school next year. In a public figure case you need only prove that what you came out with was reasonable, and what you wrote was not negligent. There is a big difference. Plus, it is well known Eddy did drugs, he admitted it. Just looking at his body would lead a reasonable person to believe he took 'roids.

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I still feel they have grounds to sue.

People sue all the time, but good luck winning that case. In a lawsuit you are awarded damages. What exactly did he damage? Eddy's legacy? All an attorney would need to do is pop in Eddy's DVD, Eddy did not hide his drug habits. His legacy has been set by his own admissions. If you are talking punitive damages, good luck. You would need to find a judge willing to punish a talk show host for his opinion, a judge who would then very likely have his verdict over-ruled in the circuit court of appeals. Making him look bad.

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Plus, if the Guerrero family were successful in a civil suit against Cowherd, what will happen to free speech? Does this give Terrell Owens the right to sue all of the talk show hosts who have been piling on him and calling him "the worst teammate ever" and "a selfish jerk"? That's defamation, right?

 

What Cowherd said was inexcusable but in his opinion, it isn't news. Did ESPN report when Hawk died? Or what about when Bossman died? Nope. He was probably sent the story by a few wrestling fans and commented on it. But to try and get him fired for this is just stupid. Lets say, god forbid, Test died. Nobody really liked Test, right? What if Herd said that his death isn't news and treated the story the same way? I highly doubt people would be creating petitions to have him fired.

 

In short, let it go. Things like this are said and people move on. You're not going to make any kind of difference. Neither ESPN nor ESPN Radio will be fined by the FCC because there are worse things happening that the FCC needs to worry about (making sure people aren't swearing or showing their tits on television) than an opinionated talk-show host making a statement. Whether it's a popular opinion or not, it's his opinion to have.

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Guest Leelee

Nah. Cowherd won't last long because he sucks, and practically everyone hates him. Plus, they'll probably need to open up a spot for one of their annoying SC's anchors, eventually.

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He's not going to last. Whenever you have to push the fact ,you say things that might offend someone, more likely than not you're not going too last.

 

He doesn't push that as a means of selling his show. Just when some people don't "get it" and mouth off to him about his college football picks being completely wrong or ripping him for admitting that he'd probably have done steroids. Herd is a strongly opinionated guy and can talk about football too much for my tastes, but he backs up his points and takes other views into consideration.

 

Plus, he said in an interview with our local ESPN guy that sometimes on his show, he has a segment that makes his listeners decide whether or not they want to listen anymore. A few months ago, he took a stand on something that made quite a few people email in and state that they weren't going to listen to him anymore. He said in the interview with the local guy that something like that is what sports talk is about. Sometimes, you throw something out there and if people don't like it, they leave. And both sides are better off.

 

I honestly don't think he'll be fired or will he quit. This is his living. And everyone who has made a petition to have him fired, you've given him what he wants. Attention. The high level mustaches at ESPN may have said something to him, but it's been a few days. If he were supposed to have apologized he'd have done it by now.

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Guest wahoo
If his family wants to they can sue the guy for slander and defimation of character since he'd have a hard time proving Eddie took steroids.

 

During the big WWF steroid trials, every single wrestler called to trial and even Vince himself admitted to doing steroids. If people thought it was too risky to lie under oath then, then today I don't think they will for a deceased wrestler. Hogan and others had went on talk shows for years and always denied steroids, but put under oath the truth all came out.

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Of course the petition is useless, and of course his job is to offend people. But he's still a cocksucking douchebag cunt and I felt a lot better after signing it. It would be fun to kill him, though.

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Guest Hass of Pain
Oh come the hell on, people. Why the hell are you putting this douche over? This is the reason why I remember moronic names like Phil Mushnick and L. Brent Bozell. If people wouldn't jump on their balls like this and swing so damned mightily we wouldn't even know this asshole's name.

 

As unlikeable as he can be, Phil Mushnick is really the only person in the media who seems genuinely concerned about the death rate in wrestling, and he has been trying to get people to take his stance seriously for a long time. Wrestling fans have always been too busy trashing him to realize what he has been saying has been pretty accurate, at least when it comes to drug testing and what not.

 

Personally, I don't give a fuck about Cowherd. You can't cry censorship sometimes and then waste your energy worrying about some moron who made a distasteful comment about Eddie Guerrero. He's free to say whatever he wants, that doesn't mean he is right. Like most talk radio hosts, he's an over the top idiot who relies on pushing the envelope to get himself noticed. If he gets fired, someone louder and more tasteless will just slide right into his slot anyway.

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As unlikeable as he can be, Phil Mushnick is really the only person in the media who seems genuinely concerned about the death rate in wrestling, and he has been trying to get people to take his stance seriously for a long time. Wrestling fans have always been too busy trashing him to realize what he has been saying has been pretty accurate, at least when it comes to drug testing and what not.

 

Personally, I don't give a fuck about Cowherd. You can't cry censorship sometimes and then waste your energy worrying about some moron who made a distasteful comment about Eddie Guerrero. He's free to say whatever he wants, that doesn't mean he is right. Like most talk radio hosts, he's an over the top idiot who relies on pushing the envelope to get himself noticed. If he gets fired, someone louder and more tasteless will just slide right into his slot anyway.

 

 

This is the best take on this subject in all of this thread. :headbang:

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He's not going to last. Whenever you have to push the fact ,you say things that might offend someone, more likely than not you're not going too last.

 

He doesn't push that as a means of selling his show. Just when some people don't "get it" and mouth off to him about his college football picks being completely wrong or ripping him for admitting that he'd probably have done steroids. Herd is a strongly opinionated guy and can talk about football too much for my tastes, but he backs up his points and takes other views into consideration.

 

Plus, he said in an interview with our local ESPN guy that sometimes on his show, he has a segment that makes his listeners decide whether or not they want to listen anymore. A few months ago, he took a stand on something that made quite a few people email in and state that they weren't going to listen to him anymore. He said in the interview with the local guy that something like that is what sports talk is about. Sometimes, you throw something out there and if people don't like it, they leave. And both sides are better off.

 

I honestly don't think he'll be fired or will he quit. This is his living. And everyone who has made a petition to have him fired, you've given him what he wants. Attention. The high level mustaches at ESPN may have said something to him, but it's been a few days. If he were supposed to have apologized he'd have done it by now.

 

 

I don't care about the Guerrero comments. I'm just not a fan of those national sports radio hosts.

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Guest Leelee

Don't listen to them.

 

Do you really want to be like those types that call sports radio shows?

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He doesn't push that as a means of selling his show. Just when some people don't "get it" and mouth off to him about his college football picks being completely wrong or ripping him for admitting that he'd probably have done steroids. Herd is a strongly opinionated guy and can talk about football too much for my tastes, but he backs up his points and takes other views into consideration.

 

HE DOES?!?

 

Mind you, I have friends in Oregon (lived there for a bit myself, too) that absolutely hate on everything Cowherd - I remember the show the day after A. Rodriguez had that famous "glove slap", where he threatened anyone to call him up and disagree with him that Rodriguez did the smart thing.

 

It seems that the guy's career has been founded on finding the concensus opinion, then choosing the exact opposite and daring people to disagree.

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