Cartman 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2006 Bad signing, with exception he plays the position better than most. Wells is sticking around for another year it seems, Awesome! Throw Arroyo and Papelbon in relief to begin the season with Papelbon eventually starting once Beckett lands on the DL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2006 He's also hit 81 home runs, which is more home runs than each of those players accumulated in their career, I believe. Ideas about his defense vary, but they all seem to portray him as an average-at-worst defender. He's not one of the top-tier shortstops, but he could still have a little bit of value as the No. 9 hitter on a Boston lineup that really isn't short for offense. At the very worst, he's a cheap stopgap that buys time for Dustin Pedroia's development. As for the Marlins, who's their new starting shortstop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2006 Either Hanley Ramirez will get trial by fire or it's going to be a Pokey Reese/Robert Andino clusterfuck. Hanley's not ready but hell, the year is a wash anyway. I say let him play and learn at the big league level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2006 Gonzalez has a .291 OBP. Bad, but consider he played his home games in Dolphins Stadium his entire career. He's moving to the American League, to a park that favors left handed hitters. Suddenly his OBP hangs around the .320 range, and it's not a glaring problem. Gonzalez essentially provides stability, and when it's a one year deal that's a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 Well the Twins signed Rueben Seirra today. It is strange, the last few seasons the Twins relied on young guys and this off-season the Twins have signed Tony Batista, Rondell White and now Sierra. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 I saw this over on the Os Hangout... On the same day the Os signed Gibbons, they also signed Esix Senad to a minor league contract. In 2000 he had 109 SBs in the minors (A) over 132 games but only a .235 avg/.282 slg/.340 obp Last year in AAA he had 46 sb in 95 games with roughly the same stat line. Only problem is he's 30. So it doesn't really matter. Bowie or Ottawa fans rejoice in seeing another really fast guy that can't hit... YAY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 Your Red Sox trade rumor of the day: WEEI and SOSH are buzzing with a rumored three team deal between the Red Sox, Mets and Nationals. Red Sox receive: Lastings Milledge, Xavier Nady ( and Kaz Matsui ??) Nationals receive: Matt Clement, Alex Cora, $ Mets receive: Jose Vidro, Jay Bergman, PTBNL ( and Livan Hernandez ??) Several sources say its close to done but the Sox are reluctant to give up starting pitching this close to ST. Take that for whatever it's worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 At least the Yankees just buy the guys they want without so many fucking middlemen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 You Red Sox fans can be so fucking retarded sometimes. The Mets are going to trade Lastings Milledge and get Jose Vidro back in return? Please. "Oh my god, guys, I got a new one. I heard we're gonna get Pujols from the cards for Alex Cora! I can't believe it!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 You Red Sox fans can be so fucking retarded sometimes. The Mets are going to trade Lastings Milledge and get Jose Vidro back in return? Please. "Oh my god, guys, I got a new one. I heard we're gonna get Pujols from the cards for Alex Cora! I can't believe it!!" Wow, I didn't know that I was so fucking retarded... thanks for clearing that up. By the way, the Mets would most likely be getting Livan Hernandez and dumping Matsui's contract in addition to Vidro. I don't know if that's worth giving up Milledge, but it's not that far-fetched if Minaya really thinks he can compete this year. But whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 That deal actually doesn't look half bad, until you realize that the Red Sox are getting Milledge and Nady for Matt Clement and Alex Cora, which is pretty silly. Frankly, the Mets should just go direct to the Nationals and offer Milledge and Nady for Vidro and Hernandez straight-up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 Actually, upon second look, the original deal looks like a terrible transaction for the Nationals. They downgrade at both positions, lose a guy that strikes out a batter an inning in the pen, and they only receive cash compensation for it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 1, 2006 That's what most of these rumors are. Terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 Jim Callis has Milledge ranked as the #9 prospect in ALL of baseball. Probably higher in the published book because his new list includes Justin Upton at #2 and Upton didn't sign in time to make it to print. The guys ahead of Milledge? Delmon Young, Justin Upton, Brandon Wood, Jeremy Hermida, Stephen Drew, Alex Gordon, Prince Fielder and Francisco Liriano. The who's who of baseball prospects. And they are going to trade someone that highly regarded for JOSE VIDRO? Give me a break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 1, 2006 In all honesty, is there anyone on Washington's roster that the Mets would give Milledge for? Minaya would probably take Soriano, but that's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 Well the Twins signed Rueben Seirra today. It is strange, the last few seasons the Twins relied on young guys and this off-season the Twins have signed Tony Batista, Rondell White and now Sierra. I like those signings, the Twins over-reliance on youth has hurt them IMO. They're adding three battle tested veterans, White is underrated and Batista can mash, and while Sierra won't do all that much as a part time DH I think he's a good guy to have in the clubhouse. Twins have a nice mix of youth and experience now. It'll be tough to make the Playoffs with Chicago and Cleveland in that division, but they've definitely improved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 And, that 3-way doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but what's so bad about Jose Vidro!?! People are talking about him like he's a bum. The guy is solid at the plate and on the field, career OPS is .831, he's a major upgrade on what the Mets have at second base. I think if Minaya had a chance to dump Matsui and get Vidro and Livan Hernandez (a F'n workhorse) in return he'd probably give up Milledge to get it done. It might be a mistake longterm, but they're trying to win before Pedro's arm falls off, and that's definitely a haul for them in the shortterm. But anyway, that deal as proposed doesn't make much sense for the Nationals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 2, 2006 Vidro's deteriorating at 31 going on 32, and the numbers that he has put up were with him batting 3rd and 4th. He's a definite upgrade from Kaz, but I wouldn't want to trade Milledge for him. Livan's a headcase and nothing but trouble, and he's going to deteriorate quickly if you believe in how much Cuban pitchers pitch before they defect actually hurting them, so that's also a tough move to make. Plus, I don't think the Nats want Alex Cora, Matt Clement and money out of that whole thing either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 I never quite understood the justification of wasting a roster spot on someone who brings nothing else to the table other than he's a good clubhouse guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 I don't see all that much decline in Vidro's numbers. He was definitely hurt last year by the park in Washington, and in 2004 he had some nagging injuries, missed a lot of games, but still put up decent numbers. Hitting 3rd or 4th really only affects his run production, the guy gets on base and slugs at a decent clip no matter where he is in the order. He's still got some good years left in him and would be an important piece for a contending team, but his talents are wasted in Washington. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 I never quite understood the justification of wasting a roster spot on someone who brings nothing else to the table other than he's a good clubhouse guy. It helps along the development of younger players, not just on the field but off. The Braves have been doing it for years. You can't underestimate the importance of veteran leadership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 I think it's an average deal for all the teams involved. Mets get to dump Matsui's contract and upgrade at 2B. Livan gives them a top starter who eats innnings. If Minaya really thinks that this year is the year, it would probably be worth giving up Milledge. For the Nationals, they clear a spot at 2B for Soriano and upgrade their ptiching staff at a decent cost (depending on what money gets thrown their way). The Red Sox get a top prospect and a fourth outfielder which is nice, but it leaves them slightly thin in SP, depending on what is done with Wells. It seems reasonable from all sides, but probably one of those deals that dies at the rumor stage. Probably not enough up side to get each team to buy into the deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 The big problem with Vidro is that he's missed 50+ games the last two years now. He's somewhat useful, but I can't help think that Milledge could garner more in a trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 2, 2006 I don't see all that much decline in Vidro's numbers. He was definitely hurt last year by the park in Washington, and in 2004 he had some nagging injuries, missed a lot of games, but still put up decent numbers. Hitting 3rd or 4th really only affects his run production, the guy gets on base and slugs at a decent clip no matter where he is in the order. He's still got some good years left in him and would be an important piece for a contending team, but his talents are wasted in Washington. But at the same time, Shea Stadium isn't a great hitter's park either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2006 You Red Sox fans can be so fucking retarded sometimes. The Mets are going to trade Lastings Milledge and get Jose Vidro back in return? Please. "Oh my god, guys, I got a new one. I heard we're gonna get Pujols from the cards for Alex Cora! I can't believe it!!" Cause we all know that the fans are calling up WEEI with the trade rumors and they're putting them on the air as news. And you're calling us retarded? Anyway- the Red Sox have 7 potential starters right now, as well as a plethora of backup infielders. Losing Clement would be a bit of a loss, but Cora is now expendable. This is another "meh" deal, if it even goes through. Actual news- Cubs avoid arbitration with Pierre, Ohman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2006 Nationals sign Royce Clayton to a minor league deal. There's rumblings that Clayton could compete for the shortstop job with Cristian Guzman, he of the absurd multi-million dollar contract. Hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2006 For those of you in the NYC market, the YES Network is airing the Caribbean World Series, starting at 6:30 this evening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tominator89 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2006 Any word on Abreu/Floyd for Contreras/Dye? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2006 Any word on Abreu/Floyd for Contreras/Dye? Just that I heard the rumor. This is easily the worst trade idea I've heard this offseason. I would not trade Abreu for those two straight up, let alone add Gavin Floyd to the trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OKCoyote Report post Posted February 4, 2006 MLB.com is reporting that the Angels have turned down a trade that would send them Manny Ramirez in exchange for Figgins, Santana, and two prospects. How come we never saw this in the rumor mill? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
