Tim White's "Suicide" skit

[Guest Ransome]

I imagine that WWE feels the only way they can stress the 'brutality' of HIAC is by using the example of Tim White. They used to play it up as the "match that retired Mick Foley and Shawn Michaels", which they can't really say anymore given that both have wrestled in WWE in the past month.

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

Found this on another message board. Seems real.

 

I just talked to Tim right now. As it turns out, he's at the Friendly Tap right now cleaning up the place. Since the skit was shot earlier in the day and they closed the Tap for the night to give it credibility for the local fans, the Cumberland Police Dept. got over 1000 phone calls saying that Tim committed suicide. The police rushed to the building and pryed the doors off their hinges and were looking for his body. Now, Tim has to give a deposition to the police saying that it was a television stunt that was filmed there, or else he's going to be in trouble for causing a comotion and tying up the police incase of actual emergencies!

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

WWE stories at their finest.

Edited December 20, 2005 by EdwardKnoxII

[therealworldschampion 0]

First, my dad. Then, my mom. Then, my 2nd dad. And 2nd mom. And my cat. And my brother. And Damaramu's unborn baby. And now... Tim White.

 

Ouch

[Guest Super Pissed Smark]

So, let me get this straight, referee Tim White appears to kill himself offscreen with a shotgun during a pay per view. The announcers do not acknowledge that he has apparently just commited suicide, even though everyone at home and in the arena just saw it. They do not ask the guy who was standing beside him to follow up on what has just happened and they make no mention of it during the rest of the show (an hour or so, I'm guessing). No "We're out of time, but tune in tomorrow night for the autopsy," no "We wish to extend our condolences to his family", no jokes about how "We're really having a blast now, aren't we J.R.?" They just move on as if nothing had happened? Is that about it? Did they mention this on RAW, or are they dropping the whole thing immediately after they did it?

 

Is Russo back?

 

Has an angle ever been forgotten about immediately, not months or weeks or days or hours or minutes later like usual, but immediately after it happens everybody just acts like it didn't? Do we have a record here?

 

 

 

[Fuzzy Dunlop 0]

Thank you to everyone that has signed the guestbook, whether or not you have posted a favorable comment.

 

Please realize, the storylines the WWE portray is fiction, just like 90% of the shows you see on television, and should be taken as nothing more than that.

 

Believe me, I have been a wrestling fan for over 27 years. Some of what is shown on TV I don't care for, but then again, some do. Most fans "poo poo" all over what they don't understand. Most fans refuse to believe that wrestling isn't what it was about 10-20 years ago. As much as I would like to see those days return, I know that it is almost impossible to recreate an era that topped them all.

 

We all have to accept that what the WWE portrays is nothing more than a television show based in the world of professional wrestling, and not the other way around.

 

I accept all criticism that you may have with this comment, because each one of you is entitled to your opinion.

 

And don't think I'm responding because some comments were harsh. I find them funny, and somehow, somewhere, Tim is looking down to us and having an eternal chuckle.

 

Thanks for visiting,

Sean

[email protected]

[Fuzzy Dunlop 0]

Reading through the comments left in his guestbook, it looks like a bunch of marks showed up, and are complaining about "internet smarks" who don't understand that the WWE is entertainment, or something.

[TheInsane 0]

Seeing how WWE usually sell death angles and more brutal stuff Im surprised they never mentioned this suicide. And how come they even made that segment. Vince must be really losing it. His wrestlers have poor morals after the death of Eddie and yet they play up a low rider angle which "kills" Taker. Bad taste? Yes. And then they have a former referee commiting suicide on a PPV. Poor taste? yes. I cant even see what they want from this.

The gay wedding was a publicity stunt but this is more a thing where people finally give up hope on WWE as I think it turns people away from the product.

[edotherocket 0]

I'm starting to think that since WWE are pretty keen on distancing themselves from a straight forward wrestling show, they may as well move towards having dark comedy shows with "special effects" like lightning, themed rings etc. Sort of like PWG except with a big budget.

 

Most people these days pretty much get their straight wrestling fix from other promotions anyways (NOAH, ROH, TNA etc. depending on what you like). The only time I've recently watched WWE is when they do something really weird like having Josh Matthews get possessed and that sort of thing because it sounds so bad its good/funny.

 

I think they have a really opportunity to go nuts with the eventual Boogeyman/Undertaker feud. Turn it into a "Fight to the Death" match and have them throw lightning bolts at each other and shit. They have the budget to do quite a lot of wild stuff.

 

They also seem to be leading to American Taliban Kurt Angle too.

 

Currently, I think WWE are in a lurch because they're not completely satisfying either the Sports Entertainment fans *or* the pure wrestling fans. I think they should just go nuts with the Sports Entertainment aspect at this point.

[Downhome 0]

From PWInsider:

 

John Fischer sent this follow up of the Tim White angle from Sunday's PPV. ... I emailed the webmaster of Friendlytap.com (White's bar) about Tim White. This is the response I got:

 

*Hello, thank you for your inquiry about the Armageddon PPV incident involving Tim White. In the world of professional wrestling, nothing is what it seems. Did Tim White actually die in "real life?" No. Did his wrestling persona die on WWE television? This is unknown.

 

What is known is that Tim White does what everyone in society does. His job.

 

Tim has been a loyal employee of World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. for over 20 years and it is a good thing to get camera time in a vast sea of entertainers.

 

Did morals play a part in Tim's decision. We, and he, believe so. Unfortunately, with the recent passing of WWE Superstar (and friend of Tim White) Eddie Guerrero, people have been outraged at what transpired. Please be aware, that sometimes storylines are created over a long period of time. Just because this angle happened after the death of Eddie Guerrero doesn't mean that Tim or the WWE is disrespecting his memory.

 

The WWE produces television. Please be aware, that sometime things happen beyond the realm of television which doesn't change the course of the product. If a show is based on a murderer and a character passes away in real life, they do not re-write it. They write that character out of the story and the show goes on. Is this cold and heartless? No. It may be sad to the fans, but it doesn't take away from the product.

 

If this happened on a show like CSI and an actor passed away in real life, they will not re-write the show and turn it into a program about everything but death. It is just the natural course of events that transpire throughout the course of television history.

 

Please be aware that the WWE product is just television and entertainment. It's just up to the fans to decide how far they want to see into the product.

 

While we are not here to defend the actions that happened on the Pay Per View, we support Tim's decision in the way he portrays his character on television.

 

Thank you for your inquiries,

[email protected]

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Poor CSI, they ALWAYS get name dropped by the WWE (or anyone representing the WWE) when it comes to their death storylines. I am confident that no one who name drops CSI in cases like these actually watches CSI.

 

You'd think that after a death of someone close to them, the WWE would be more sensitive to the seriousness of death. Yet, it seems, every week after Eddies death they've managed to trivialize it as part of their skits. I'm not saying I'm offended by it morally (though intellectually is another thing all together), but I can safely say that those in the WWE who come up with and execute angles like these are absolutely heartless.

[Fuzzy Dunlop 0]

And now his guestbook's been closed.

[Downhome 0]

I'm just glad I'm not the only one who first thought this topic was "Tim White's 'Suicide' kit". I still think it says that when I see it for some reason.

[RedJed 0]

I didnt find myself offended by the segment more than it just was badly put together and the idea was absurd at best, in that White would kill himself off camera and then Matthews would just stand there like a fucking idiot, and then to follow up that horrible attempt at drama, Matthews continues to stand there and make weird facials, not even indicative of that someone just killed themselves in front of him, but more like he just saw a disgusting thing of some sort. It was all very weird and generally, stupid. Whoever produced or directed that segment needs a serious cut in pay.

 

To make it even worse, there was hardly any follow up from the angle afterwards (I couldnt believe how trivial it all was to the announcers) and it killed the crowd for the CW match. Talk about a failure on so many levels.

 

I dont know if the idea was to leave what happened open-ended or what (considering we never saw anything), but the point of the whole segment (to show how the HIAC can affect people apparently?) seemed to fall apart completely when it was so poorly put together its not even remotely entertaining or interesting.

[justcoz 0]

I didnt find myself offended by the segment more than it just was badly put together and the idea was absurd at best, in that White would kill himself off camera and then Matthews would just stand there like a fucking idiot, and then to follow up that horrible attempt at drama, Matthews continues to stand there and make weird facials, not even indicative of that someone just killed themselves in front of him, but more like he just saw a disgusting thing of some sort. It was all very weird and generally, stupid. Whoever produced or directed that segment needs a serious cut in pay.

 

To make it even worse, there was hardly any follow up from the angle afterwards (I couldnt believe how trivial it all was to the announcers) and it killed the crowd for the CW match. Talk about a failure on so many levels.

 

I dont know if the idea was to leave what happened open-ended or what (considering we never saw anything), but the point of the whole segment (to show how the HIAC can affect people apparently?) seemed to fall apart completely when it was so poorly put together its not even remotely entertaining or interesting.

 

I watch this stuff with a sense of humor and have come to expect absurd moments in wrestling. I like for them to have some sort of purpose however. The idea of them leaving the impression that a former referee just killed himself live on a PPV doesn't offend me. If there would have been some entertaining continuity. So Tim White walks off and we hear a gun shot, what's so hard about cutting back to the live arena in a state of disbelief rather than Josh Matthews making stupid faces. The announcers casually looking for updates from the Friendly Tap throughout the evening and not getting any response from the production team or Josh Matthews. Fearing that Tim White perhaps shot himself or worse yet took his frustrations out on the production team? A backup crew and police are sent to the bar to find the Friendly Tap closed with the Matthews gagged and the production crew tied up. Where is Tim White though?

 

Then, during the HIAC match, Tim White makes an appearance, wielding a shotgun, headed to the ring screaming for Vince McMahon and how HIAC ruined his life. Security rush in and escort Tim White out of the arena as the announcers stress how bad HIAC affects people as the actual match goes on. All of this could have taken an extra ten minutes. Yes, it's stupid to give an ex referee that much PPV air time but at least it gets over that HIAC ruins lives, makes people crazy and we get an Oh My God moment when it appears a referee is going to ambush WWE talent. The whole mess would have at least been remotely entertaining rather than serving no purpose at all.

[Guest Leelee]

Tim White will come back from the dead...

 

And go to TNA!!!

 

Wow, that will be so cool! TNA keeps getting better and better, and WWE just sucks. Then, Timmy

can watch matches, and we can sorta give a damn! And it can all lead to the massive surprising interference of Huge Superstar SHANNON MOORE!!!!111 at our BIG SPECIAL SHOW!

 

Then, Joe can kill Timmy again! JOE GONNA KILL U!!

[justcoz 0]

Tim White will come back from the dead...

 

And go to TNA!!!

 

Wow, that will be so cool! TNA keeps getting better and better, and WWE just sucks. Then, Timmy

can watch matches, and we can sorta give a damn! And it can all lead to the massive surprising interference of Huge Superstar SHANNON MOORE!!!!111 at our BIG SPECIAL SHOW!

 

Then, Joe can kill Timmy again! JOE GONNA KILL U!!

 

That's the 'Prince Of Punk' Shannon Moore. And it wouldn't be Joe killing Timmy, it would be Jeff Jarrett taking out the Coalition of Former WWF Referees in the main event of their next PPV, with Joe vs. AJ on the undercard.

[Guest Leelee]

Oh, and I said spoilers in there.

 

Don't say his name!!!

[2GOLD 0]

TNA needed more divas and no one is more of a woman than Shannon Moore.

 

As for the Timmy thing, I still say Boogeyman should bring him back from the dead to constantly run into and cost Undertaker matches. Then Taker and Boogey can have the greatest feud we can't believe is actually fucking happening. Boogeyman with his clock, worms and zombie Timmy White against Undertaker and his power of not feeling it.

[The Niggardly King 0]

http://timmywhitemyspace.ytmnd.com/

[Guest jumpingbombangel]

If it's kosher to use guns in wrestling again, then I want to see another standoff a'la Pillman-Austin!

[daileyxplanet 0]

Crap like this doesn't offend me at all, what offends me is Michael Cole claiming that Rey Mysterio gets higher power from doing Eddie's dance-thing.

 

Eddie doesn't give a crap if Rey wins a match, he's freakin' eating taquitos with Jesus!

[RepoMan 0]

"White could be used as a semi-regular character in the future." [PWInsider.com]

 

 

 

It's looking like the zoombie ref is going to happen, or its some stupid "he shoot a rat" angle. They might as well go completly over the top with the magic powers now.

[10 Pounds 0]

They could do like in South Park.

 

Since Rey Mysterio seeks Eddie's spirit to help him in matches, they could use special effects and make the ghost of Eddie penetrating him during a match ( or Rey eating Eddie's ashes, which he thought was cereal, in a skit ). Rey could act and wrestle like Eddie. He could even talk like him using old interviews clips from the past. They could even be a one-man tag-team.

[AndrewTS 0]

the ghost of Eddie penetrating him during a match

 

Incestual metaphysical homosexual necrophilia. Hawt.

 

Anyone else remember when Bossman was lynched...then came back not long after and nothing was mentioned about it?

Edited December 21, 2005 by AndrewTS

[UZI Suicide 0]

"White could be used as a semi-regular character in the future." [PWInsider.com]

 

 

 

It's looking like the zoombie ref is going to happen, or its some stupid "he shoot a rat" angle. They might as well go completly over the top with the magic powers now.

 

 

He'll be involved in an angle with The Undertaker, I'm sure.

 

Maybe as a druid!

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Clips of Bossman's hanging were shown during the PPV.

 

And Lawler actually said "Remember when Hell in the Cell ended Mick Foley's career!" during the ME.

[daileyxplanet 0]

The Lynching of Bossman... How wasted. I'd love to see anyone else but him lynched by Taker. Oh well.

[AndrewTS 0]

I want the zombie ref.

 

However...how is that going to work if he shot himself in the head? Won't work. Now, maybe if he shot himself in the heart, I could buy it.

 

Didn't the Brood try to lynch some wrestlers on a few occasions?

[Astro7x 0]

Clips of Bossman's hanging were shown during the PPV.

 

And Lawler actually said "Remember when Hell in the Cell ended Mick Foley's career!" during the ME.

 

Well I am sure it had something to do with shortening his career.

 

 

 

The possibility of a zombie ref makes me laugh.