Teenage Suicide

[UZI Suicide 0]

I thought about this when the story about Tony Dungy's son committing suicide came out. And I'm not trying to downplay whatever problems he was going through because I don't know him and don't know what his life was like, and I do feel bad about what happened.

 

Now, I'm sure everyone here went through the normal teenage problems.. breaking up with girls, not getting the grades you wanted, peer pressure, wanting to rebel from your parents, etc.

 

Now years later you look back on that and realize how stupid it was to get so mad or depressed over things like that.

 

But why does it seem like so many teen suicides are because of those reasons? it seems so many times when you hear about a teenager committing suicide it's over something like breaking up with a girl, or not being accepted by people at school..just such petty stuff. And theneveryone feels sorry for them instead of realizing how selfish they were for leaving their friends and family like that.

 

Meanwhile, you hardly hear any suicide stories about teens who are REALLY going through problems. Being homeless, living in rough neighborhoods, not being able to afford school, having parents in jail or dead, being abused by a family member, etc. It seems like those people always fight to make it out and get a better life for themselves

 

So, why do you think that is? Is it just the survival of the fittest? Are many of them just too mentally weak?

[Guest Leelee]

Because some kids are just stupid.

 

I had a good friend in high school kill herself simply because her boyfriend left her. I didn't think twice about it... and realized if she was stupid enough to do that, then it's good she didn't waste the air I breathe.

 

Those other suicides do happen... but, with celebrities and such, they're usually people with advantages.

[Special K 0]

Looking back it's obvious, but the way teens' brains are, totally drenched in hormones, it makes everything the biggest deal in the world. I knew some smart kids who were totally fucked up for a while, who really snapped out of it later in life. Honestly, sometimes the smarter people are, the more fucked up they are prone to being. Ignorance really id bliss.

 

Plus, high school is pretty much a teen's life. And high school really, really fucking sucks for a lot of kids. Can you imagine Having to go to a job where you're humiliated every day? For some kids, high school is like that.

 

 

Meanwhile, you hardly hear any suicide stories about teens who are REALLY going through problems. Being homeless, living in rough neighborhoods, not being able to afford school, having parents in jail or dead, being abused by a family member, etc. It seems like those people always fight to make it out and get a better life for themselves

 

A) sadly, because not many people care if those kids die.

 

B) I don't really think that's the case

 

C) If you're that poor, you can't afford hard-core drugs. Maybe crack.

[Angle-plex 0]

Girl AND guys are both insecure and overly emotional (at all ages) over a lot of things to make their lives feel more important, which is why we get some people crying over trivial things like a scripted pro wrestling event.

[The Amazing Rando 0]

A kid in my town took a shotgun blast to the head after a girl dumped him. After he shot himself, he didn't die immediately, and must have realized he was being an idiot and crawled out of the woods where his family called 911. He went through a lot of surgery and is apparently much better now.

 

The girl was one that me and my friends referred to as "Poodle With Its Face Kicked In" because she looked like a poodle that someone had kicked in the face and then stretched the dent back out. Just nasty.

[Nighthawk 0]

Sounds like Arseface. Both of them, actually.

 

Things seem more important when they've never happened before. It works both ways. Like, it's a big deal for a teenager to get a drivers license, but most adults think nothing of driving. So teen suicide is less stupid than impulsive and short-sighted. Unfortunately, of all the mistakes teenagers make, suicide and tattoos are permanent.

[MrRant 0]

You can get tattoos removed.

[Guest mr. teh awesome]

I had a good friend in high school kill herself simply because her boyfriend left her. I didn't think twice about it... and realized if she was stupid enough to do that, then it's good she didn't waste the air I breathe.

 

wow, that's really fucking impressive :/

[Nighthawk 0]

You can get tattoos removed.

 

Yeah, but it's expensive and leaves a scar. Last I checked, anyway.

[Slayer 0]

Just like suicide

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

....right?

[Nighthawk 0]

Smoking is also something teenagers do which tends to have long term consequences.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

It was a little different for me because I went to a private Lutheran preparatory school, which was quite different from a normal high school. There weren't any suicides there, at least while I was in school. I think I only remember hearing about one or two girls getting pregnant all four years I was there.

 

Anyway, looking as an outsider, I think a big problem is that American society puts out this idea that high school is basically the most important thing that will happen to you in your entire life. Like, if you get bad grades or struggle with your studies, you'll never possibly amount to anything. Or, if you don't get a hot date to the prom you'll end up a lonely loser the rest of your life. High school sports are built up as the most important thing in a lot of towns. It puts a lot of pressure on kids, and some of them simply can't take it. Maybe their parents ignore warning signs and stuff, unfortunately. Kids tend to forget that this is just one phase of their entire life, and that there actually is life after graduation.

[Gary Floyd 0]

I said it about the MySpace kid that committed suicide, and I'll say it again: What happened to kids killing themselves over metal bands like Judas Priest?

[MrRant 0]

I said it about the MySpace kid that committed suicide, and I'll say it again: What happened to kids killing themselves over metal bands like Judas Priest?

 

Emo is the new metal.

 

Sucidewise that is.

 

Or another way to put is: We've raised a bunch of pussies.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

See, that goes back to what I posted in another thread. America needs to go back to a time when men were men and women were glad for it.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

That's what my junior English/senior Creative Writing teacher always said: "...when men were men, and women loved 'em for it."

 

I think if anybody commits suicide that they were probably a waste of space anyway.

[Renegade 0]

CRAWLLIIIIING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIIN.....

[Guest wildpegasus]

That's what my junior English/senior Creative Writing teacher always said: "...when men were men, and women loved 'em for it."

 

I think if anybody commits suicide that they were probably a waste of space anyway.

 

I don't agree with that second line. Onc can be in so much pain that life really does not become an option.

[Gary Floyd 0]

Or another way to put is: We've raised a bunch of pussies.

Yea, but I've been saying that today's generation is a bunch of pussies for years now.

 

CRAWLLIIIIING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIIN.....

That song is old news. Simple Plan's "Untitled" is the new anthem for suicidal pussies who are angsty over their girlfriends/boyfriends understandably leaving them. So...

 

 

...HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME?!?!

[Renegade 0]

Simple Plan's "Untitled" is the new anthem for suicidal pussies who are angsty over their girlfriends/boyfriends understandably leaving them. So...

 

 

...HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME?!?!

It's a ytmnd staple.

[MrRant 0]

That's what my junior English/senior Creative Writing teacher always said: "...when men were men, and women loved 'em for it."

 

I think if anybody commits suicide that they were probably a waste of space anyway.

 

I don't agree with that second line. Onc can be in so much pain that life really does not become an option.

 

Bullshit. Unless you are talking physical pain or repeated emotional pain like daddy greasing up your asshole before letting his drunken bowling buddies cornhole you.

[Guest wildpegasus]

That's what my junior English/senior Creative Writing teacher always said: "...when men were men, and women loved 'em for it."

 

I think if anybody commits suicide that they were probably a waste of space anyway.

 

I don't agree with that second line. Onc can be in so much pain that life really does not become an option.

 

Bullshit. Unless you are talking physical pain or repeated emotional pain like daddy greasing up your asshole before letting his drunken bowling buddies cornhole you.

 

In the line I wrote I was talking about physical pain. Of course that hurts you mentally too.

 

 

Depression is a very tough battle as well.

[The Czech Republic 0]

I think if anybody commits suicide that they were probably a waste of space anyway.

Yeah, fuck Hemingway

 

If wildpegasus suffers from depression, I don't want to have it again

[Ted the Poster 0]

Cobain and Van Gogh were such undeserving little shits.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

I'll clarify and agree with you, pegasus, about physical pain. If somebody is fighting a losing battle to cancer or AIDS, let them off themselves and die with dignity. Jack Kervorkian was right.

 

BUT if somebody just off's themself because they're sad or have manic depression (which is, you know, TREATABLE)? Good. Didn't need 'em around anyway.

[The Niggardly King 0]

I think if anybody commits suicide that they were probably a waste of space anyway.

 

The funny thing is that one of my classmates use to say this to me, and he ended up killing himself a year ago.

[MrRant 0]

He just knew he was waste of space then I guess and took action.

[CanadianChick 0]

It's because of people seeking instant gradification. If their lives suck right now, they cut themselves. They don't think, "Hey, this won't last forever."

 

While I understand some suicides, there are some that just boggle my mind. If someone offs themselves because of getting dumped, that's just horrible and unnessesary. If someone is getting raped by their dad and can't turn anywhere, that's a tiny bit more understandable.

 

I think cutting, which is a progression of suicide alot of the time, is because being depressed and emo is the in thing, and kids just do what's cool. It's like a fucking battle scar, and they believe thier own bullshit of thier suburbian lives being too tough to handle and that no one understands their problems that they created in their minds. Kids are way too easily influenced, especially if the parents don't have any fucking balls and let their kids become unnessesarly depressed over nothing.

[Epic Reine 0]

I often think teenagers overexaggerate their problems. A little thing happens to them and they think it's the end of the world because the media portrays them as such.

 

Killing yourself over a guy or girl is the dumbest thing ever.

[The Czech Republic 0]

BUT if somebody just off's themself because they're sad or have manic depression (which is, you know, TREATABLE)? Good. Didn't need 'em around anyway.

Jesus tapdancing Christ, Laz, you're still at it

 

Manic depression is one of those things where the treatment is almost as bad for some people. There are people who have been or are being treated for manic depression who say that the lithium or other means of treatment dulls the mind and turns them into zombies, almost. No highs, no lows. That's pretty damn miserable too, if you ask me. I'm just extremely wary of psychoactive drugs, and my only personal experience was 5 mg of Ritalin in the Great Ritalin Craze Of '95. Hypothetically, if I was even worse off than I already am, neurologically speaking, I'd take that over being medicated into a mashed potato-headed drone like I've seen some people become whilst "treated."

 

Look, I know you're trying to do the whole tough-guy men-are-men blue-collar emoting-is-4-pussies thing as a reaction to emo music. "Grr, I'm a Masshole, rawk on kill the emos." Cool. But it's extremely ignorant and presumptuous to make a sweeping generalization like "anyone who suffers from depression and can't take it is better off dead." It's an imperfect world of imperfect people with imperfect brains; not everyone is going to attain a clean bill of mental health, so to speak. Drop your schtick and have some empathy, if that's not too pussy for you. I know there are a lot of emo kids who are playing just as much of a contrived character as you are, but you're going beyond them in your remarks, and I'm not certain that's fair. Many of the brightest minds in the world are afflicted with some sort of mental disorder; it practically comes with the territory. We need them around. Subtract them and we'd live in a nation of accountants.

 

In closing, back off of disregarding the mentally ill, and tone down the posturing. I'll PM you every day telling you that you have balls the size of Rhode Island if you need that validation. So as the myspace emo kids say, kthxbye