snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 I hear the LA Times covered the 'feud' well.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Failed Bridge 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 "Gangster Rap wasn't about killing people and doing drugs. It was about making the drug problem in America become noticed while also teaching today's youth the reprocussions of playing with guns!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 Except its not putting blinders on. Tupac admitted to biggie that he was only doing it for the money, and he never slept with Faith at a awards show backstage. Suge started it all to make more money. Tupac did not try to have biggie killed and Biggie didn't try to have Pac killed, thus rap factions have NEVER tried to have each other killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 Ripper just hate white people and will always jump to the defense of a black person. See the Marcus Vick thread. He doesn't seem to understand that most Universities have codes of conduct for students. You really can't read can you. I mean I always had this feeling that you could only read the little words and skipped over the ones that are too big for you, but you are really starting to prove it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 This wouldn't be happening if we just shipped all their lazy asses back to Africa after the Civil War. Not that I'm racist or anything, I just hate black people. The other races are fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 Obie Trice deserves more respect than this. I mean cam'ron got multiple pages i think. \ Obie is nowhere near Cam'ron on the mic. Y...you are joking right. Seriously, I have heard everything that Cam'ron has ever said on a mic from that Children of the Corn shit to him freestlying with Big L, Mase, Bloodshed and McGruff in some little ass studio and dude just can't do the shit that Obie can do on the mic. And seriously, i am sick of this "rappers getting shot" crap. Someone shot at him, probably over some road rage shit. Cam got shot during a car jacking. I don't see anyone calling Dimebag getting shot last year as "those crazy rockstars playing with guns". Goddamn idiots. No. Cam'ron is infinitely better than Obie Trice, it's not even close. Cam'ron is a monster on the mic. Obie Trice is barely listenable to me. Basically, the entire Shady Camp (Including the man himself since 2002) is trash on the mic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 Uh, Pac was shot for fighting a gangmember outside of a Tyson fight in Vegas. Puffy and Biggie had ZERO to do with it. Biggie was shot because some gang member who did a hit paid for by an unknown person. But that person leaning towards Suge Knight. Both weren't involved in each other's deaths. Infact ZERO people in rap were killed in a rap fued. No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 Obie Trice deserves more respect than this. I mean cam'ron got multiple pages i think. \ Obie is nowhere near Cam'ron on the mic. Y...you are joking right. Seriously, I have heard everything that Cam'ron has ever said on a mic from that Children of the Corn shit to him freestlying with Big L, Mase, Bloodshed and McGruff in some little ass studio and dude just can't do the shit that Obie can do on the mic. And seriously, i am sick of this "rappers getting shot" crap. Someone shot at him, probably over some road rage shit. Cam got shot during a car jacking. I don't see anyone calling Dimebag getting shot last year as "those crazy rockstars playing with guns". Goddamn idiots. No. Cam'ron is infinitely better than Obie Trice, it's not even close. Cam'ron is a monster on the mic. Obie Trice is barely listenable to me. Basically, the entire Shady Camp (Including the man himself since 2002) is trash on the mic. I guess its all about taste then. Because personally, every since Cam went to that stop and go rhyming style, I have found him to be pure garbage....except for some tracks off Confessions of Fire and SDE. But Lyrically, you have to admit, the things Obie does with words....lets just say his lyrics would look better on paper than Cam's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 Obie Trice deserves more respect than this. I mean cam'ron got multiple pages i think. \ Obie is nowhere near Cam'ron on the mic. Y...you are joking right. Seriously, I have heard everything that Cam'ron has ever said on a mic from that Children of the Corn shit to him freestlying with Big L, Mase, Bloodshed and McGruff in some little ass studio and dude just can't do the shit that Obie can do on the mic. And seriously, i am sick of this "rappers getting shot" crap. Someone shot at him, probably over some road rage shit. Cam got shot during a car jacking. I don't see anyone calling Dimebag getting shot last year as "those crazy rockstars playing with guns". Goddamn idiots. No. Cam'ron is infinitely better than Obie Trice, it's not even close. Cam'ron is a monster on the mic. Obie Trice is barely listenable to me. Basically, the entire Shady Camp (Including the man himself since 2002) is trash on the mic. I guess its all about taste then. Because personally, every since Cam went to that stop and go rhyming style, I have found him to be pure garbage....except for some tracks off Confessions of Fire and SDE. But Lyrically, you have to admit, the things Obie does with words....lets just say his lyrics would look better on paper than Cam's. True, it's all different taste. As far as the lyrics on paper, I even disagree with that. Cam'ron has some of the illest wordplay. And his multiples are crazy. I could never see Obie spit something like this No excuses, it's useless I'm ruthless, I stay fucking two chicks Watch boost flicks, bust shots, mad acustics The crime boss with toothpicks, cash flow and my crucifix We stick shit, producive, a COC exclusive Cause I'm the nigga that's passed parole, carry a gat to stroll Slapping, clapping, and wrapping for rolls Beef fatter than Jackson Hold Ask Nicole, slugs I shot, ate her like an entray Her boyfriend Deandre, has no more fiancee And y'all be fucking snoring like the Killa's boring But one slept all this Ralph Lauren, shot him and left his mouth pouring Then I took his skirt, Killa Cam the crook that merk So when I'm here look alert, before y'all get shook and hurt Revenge you on the 8th floor, that's where I used to rape whores Busting off the cap gun, riding on the skateboard Now all the states is carved in, all the caps and slugs And I be rapping bugged, by slapping mugs, clapping thugs And packing drugs, don't ask for love I'm fucking raw chief, all you fucking whore cease Only love you give is love taps to your jaw piece Cause I done fucked sluts and dancers, give us the chance ta I got bucks and answers, and I rob the city bus for Transfers Plus I'm touching you reps, buffing your threats One shot like Russian Roulette, when thrusting the tech Killa Cam is real you nothing to sweat MY crew is tight like ice to treys Hype the blades from nights to days I slice with blaze, triffling ways Bombs with all type grenades, cause me and my nigga love bread My cousin Bloodshed, the one who party out at Club Med The ex-dust head, I'm causing complex confusion When I'm out West I'm looting, car taking, Lexus boosting See me, you know the techs is shooting, execution Or any of those freestyles he did in the late 90s. Or the Takeover Freestyle etc... "Looking for a spark to light, who's hard tonight? Nobody? So I'll start a fight And fuck a broken Becks, I'll yoke your necks I walk around with a smoking tech, a trey 8 So vacate or get soakin' wet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 See, and I find stuff like this more impressive: Obie is the person who came up intraverted Cause of nervousness, that was soley the only verdict It was worth it cause he changed, became so observant Certain such of a purpose, if you knew him earlier From the days its like a different version So much hurtin' and pain, gave him game for certain That's why its curtains and its murder if you get him worked up I'm so assertive on these mothafuckas actin' tougher Had enough of isolatin' myself in the room Writin' poems and songs doin' the same at school Now look what he became a fool Cause he learned how to sustain his two And not obtain fame from you Livin' hard but still Julliard, a God walks And ain't spent a day in the pew Reguardless of this, I draw visuals pictures when a nigga vents So welcome to the art department Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomasmoney 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 Suge Knight had both Biggie and Tupac killed. Tupac only signed with Death Row to get bond from jail, and Suge being a thug was jealous of the success of Bad Boy Records. I know this because I know people connected to the situation and I trust their knowledge of it more than anyone here. It wasn't east coast vs west coast it was more like LA street thug vs two musicians who had nowhere near the murderous connections of him. Do you really think the Las Vegas PD or Los Angeles PD could not solve either one of these two very high profile murders. Knight had both men killed over money, and that is all it is boiled down to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perfxion 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 If Knight had Pac killed, why was in the car durring that drive by where a stray bullet went hit his head? What person takes one in the HEAD for the team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 If Knight had Pac killed, why was in the car durring that drive by where a stray bullet went hit his head? What person takes one in the HEAD for the team? He didn't get shot in the head, he made that up (Hospital confirmed that). Suge set them both up. Read the book "LAbyrinth" by Randall Sullivan. Or just read the Rolling Stones magazine from last month when they broke down every aspect of the case, and all trails lead to Suge Knight. All trails. It's almost beyond speculation it's so obvious. The coverups, the lies, the money, the amount of people who admit to their involvement and that Suge paid them, the people he confessed the murders to in prison, the police officers involved in the coverups. Too much shit. And Orlando Anderson was just some they can use as a "suspect". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 See, and I find stuff like this more impressive: Obie is the person who came up intraverted Cause of nervousness, that was soley the only verdict It was worth it cause he changed, became so observant Certain such of a purpose, if you knew him earlier From the days its like a different version So much hurtin' and pain, gave him game for certain That's why its curtains and its murder if you get him worked up I'm so assertive on these mothafuckas actin' tougher Had enough of isolatin' myself in the room Writin' poems and songs doin' the same at school Now look what he became a fool Cause he learned how to sustain his two And not obtain fame from you Livin' hard but still Julliard, a God walks And ain't spent a day in the pew Reguardless of this, I draw visuals pictures when a nigga vents So welcome to the art department That's a good verse too. I just like the more raw stuff (Kool G. Rap, Big Pun, Ras Kass, old Cam, Big L, Nasty Nas) etc...but yeah, I can appreciate a good verse like that, I just don't like other aspects of his rhyming more than his lyrics. It's his voice and delivery that's really a turn off to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2006 My team is the horsemen serve you a heaping portion forcing, my baby momma to get an abortion *sample sound* There, i just wrote a Cam'ron rap. I like Cam'ron ok and I think he's pretty good. but like ripper said I just don't like his pausing style that much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2006 Paul McCartney was behind John Lennon getting shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2006 How can that be? Paul Is Dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ant_7000 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2006 I think Suge had something to do with both murders. Rappers don't shot at each other. Just the some people that they keep around do sometimes. Obie incident was some "road rage" shit. Cam'ron in the 90's was better than Obie, but now Cam got successful and lazy I say obie's is a better lyricist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites