2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2006 see I was under the impression they were paying spike....so they aren't paying spike, they just don't get the ad money? whut? TNA doesn't pay to air because Spike keeps the ad revenue. It's sorta like the USA deal for the WWE where the network keeps the ad money in exchange for free air time. That's my understanding how the deal worked out for both parties involved. But making back 20 million dollars in a year? How the fuck did they do that? There is no way they did that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2006 According to Meltzer, TNA is $25 mil in the hole right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2006 see I was under the impression they were paying spike....so they aren't paying spike, they just don't get the ad money? whut? All reports that I'd seen said the reason that TNA went with Spike and not WGN, even though WGN was offering the 2 hr time slot opposite Raw that they desperately want, is because WGN wanted them to pay for the slot no matter how the show did ratings wise, while Spike isn't charging them in exchange for being able to keep the ad money. The deal was an infinitely better deal for TNA in the long run because while they gave up the increased visiblity now, they gained the possibility of breaking even without having to pull Wrestlemania-like buyrates every month. Also, the theory was that by Spike retaining the ad revenue, they'd have a vested interest in it drawing ratings high enough that would impress advertisers and promote it, which TNA could never get FSN to do. When TNA was there, they kept the ad revenue themselves, so FSN didn't care what numbers the show did as long as the checks cleared. And TNA couldn't realistically recover the $30K a week selling ads for a 4 p.m. Friday afternoon show. Also, FYI, when Spike was dealing with WWE, they paid them a broadcasting rights fee and WWE kept the ad revenue for the show (USA however did not give them ad revenue). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 PWI says the replay got a .7, so it was just a good showing for TNA all around this weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2006 PWI says the replay got a .7, so it was just a good showing for TNA all around this weekend. And now Sting LEAVES?!?! Christ, the guy sent the ratings up a .2 across the board. Then again, maybe it's the awesome power of the Peeps finally discovering where Christian went. PEEP POWER ACTIVATE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 I'm sure this suprises absolutely no one, but the Torch says the move to prime time could mean the ~NAME VALUE ~ comes back. Here's what they posted yesterday: With ratings momentum, TNA may try to load up on name talent, meaning that in the next month, Kevin Nash, Jeff Hardy, and Sean Waltman may be brought back, plus Sting may work sooner than originally planned. Nash's return depends on whether a potential conflict with an acting gig in Hollywood gets in the way. Nash has proposed a specific booking idea for him to have a series of singles matches. We've already seen Waltman and I new that Hardy would be trotted out the first time they thought they had marks to impress, but Nash again?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 Maybe this time he'll blow out his knee or have a heart attack before he makes it down the entry way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 Let's attempt to bring back Scott Hall too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 Low Ki and American Dragon can raise the Monday Night repeat rating to 1.5 if they were to be signed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted February 2, 2006 Hopefully Nash's proposal has him putting over someone that could use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magus 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 TNA has a hard enough time as it is building up their own stars. I understand that they have to abet Spike in order to grow, but by bringing in all these name brand stars, they are REALLY going to suffer creatively. They already have too many wrestlers IMO, and adding so many more (plus the indy guys rumored to be close to signing) will put some really good talent on the back-burner for no good reason instead of pushing them like they deserve. Plus, it would put a huge strain on the Carters' wallet paying all those high-priced guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 To make gold pressed platinum you need to spend gold pressed platinum. Taking risks and 2 hour iMPACT specials should also be part of the equation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffybeast 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 Most business in the US do not turn a profit for the first five years of existence. The fact that TNA is in debt right now shouldn't be overly disturbing. What bothers me is the fact that TNA are bringing old stars in to boost ratings. Isn't this the same thing WCW executives did in an attempt to bring ratings? It didn't work then and I doubt it will work in the long term with TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 The Quark reference was great, but the Ferengi money is latinum not platinum. But kudos for making me laugh at that one. TNA needs to rely on well known commodities to bring in casual fans and aside from Jericho, Rock & Goldberg there aren't really any to be had who can work matches. Sadly, all three of those guys would really be too "big" to work the midcard and none would want to be Jarrett's bitch so you get the 'B' team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted February 2, 2006 Well, we don't know if they will bring in guys like Nash. The Torch just said they may for primetime, but that isn't official. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2006 What bothers me is the fact that TNA are bringing old stars in to boost ratings. Isn't this the same thing WCW executives did in an attempt to bring ratings? It didn't work then and I doubt it will work in the long term with TNA. Actually, it did work. They brought in Hogan and Savage and business did ok. Then Hall and Nash were brought in with a great NWO angle and business really took off. Where WCW screwed up was when Hall, Nash, Hogan, etc. were starting to get stale, they failed to elevate anyone new. The whole landscape for pro wrestling was much different then than it is now, so WCW may not be the best example. However, you do have a point in that bringing in old stars usually doesn't work. TNA would be much better off creating some stars because bringing in the old guard with this booking committee isn't going to work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2006 The Quark reference was great, but the Ferengi money is latinum not platinum. But kudos for making me laugh at that one. Quark is using platinum in this transaction to appeal to The TRUTH and the peeps who like the bling bling. What bothers me is the fact that TNA are bringing old stars in to boost ratings. Isn't this the same thing WCW executives did in an attempt to bring ratings? It didn't work then and I doubt it will work in the long term with TNA. Bringing in old stars to boost the ratings has been the only consistent thing TNA has been doing since day one...when exactly are they going to start thinking about pushing "home grown" talent? The people want DA TRUTH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2006 Maybe this time he'll blow out his knee or have a heart attack before he makes it down the entry way. Nash will probably tear something reaching for the phone when TNA calls. If the 'names' are brought in to put over homegrown talent, then it's a good idea. Unfortunately, I see only one TNA talent getting put over by the 'names'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2006 PWI posted this about Nash and Hardy: There are no current plans to bring Kevin Nash back into TNA. Nash is contractually signed for a number of dates. He may return eventually but as of right now, he isn't being figured into current creative plans. It's considered inevitable that Jeff Hardy will be returning sooner or later as he is one of the company's top selling merchandise movers. According to one source, Hardy actually ranked over Samoa Joe, Jeff Jarrett, and Christopher Daniels in the "Mr. TNA" year-end fan poll that AJ Styles won on the TNA website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benoit4hor 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2006 Damn, fat girls have some power when it comes to putting The Hardy's back on T.V. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2006 Emo chicks Hardy & Moore as tag team champions.....then Team 3D can put them thru tables to the cheers of the male demographic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kardo 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2006 To make gold pressed platinum you need to spend gold pressed platinum. Taking risks and 2 hour iMPACT specials should also be part of the equation. It's actually gold-pressed latinum..... I feel geeky knowing that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2006 Nash will probably tear something reaching for the phone when TNA calls. Yes, Jericho is funny. I saw this at LOP today. -- The plan is for Sting to return to TNA TV in time for the April Lockdown show. That PPV is slated to feature the blowing off of a number of key TNA storylines. What a waste of 2 full months of paying sting, fucking morons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
