Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Y2Jerk's sig never said it better.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Cena needs to make another A-Team music video. Actually, he should do one in the vein of "Parker Lewis Can't Lose" just so HHH can prove that yes, Parker Lewis can lose, and will lose, at Wrestlemania 22 in Chicago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest InuYasha Report post Posted February 21, 2006 I was just thinking that Vince wouldn't do that match, (The Triple Threat) and then have a Cena/HHH ME at WM just to piss us, the Internet fans off; but then I remembered that he's richer than fuck, and honestly couldn't care less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 You know, tonight further illustrated an idea I had about Cena and perhaps RVD. Why not have them form some sort of alliance? Let's face it, Van Dam was about 5x more over than Cena tonight. Having an RVD/Cena alliance would be good for both men on a few levels: --RVD is highly popular with older male fans (20 somethings, maybe 30s), the ECW types, etc. He could give Cena a bit of that rub and maybe get those fans to accept him more. --Cena could get the little kids and teenage girls to like RVD a bit more. Van Dam is already over pretty decent with that crowd, but not as over as Cena, know what I mean? It wouldn't really be that hard or out of the way either. They were already semi pals on SD, and the few times they've interacted they've had good segments. As far as that MITB, they have to let RVD win that. If nothing else as a consolation for this bullshit tonight. Jobbing him out is a terrible idea since Raw has a dearth of guys that the fans actually like. Besides, it's pretty obvious HHH is going to win at WM, so after he gets finished with the Cena feud they're going to need a strong RVD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 You know, RAW would make a hell of a lot more sense if we had RVD/Edge (for the title), HHH/TBS (to continue that storyline), and Cena/??? (Hogan maybe). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Props to whoever called Triple H making sure he pinned RVD. SMH. I also knew he'd Pedigree Big Show. It was just too much of a temptation for him to pass up burying both guys at once before putting Cena out of his misery at WM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 You know, tonight further illustrated an idea I had about Cena and perhaps RVD. Why not have them form some sort of alliance? Let's face it, Van Dam was about 5x more over than Cena tonight. Having an RVD/Cena alliance would be good for both men on a few levels: --RVD is highly popular with older male fans (20 somethings, maybe 30s), the ECW types, etc. He could give Cena a bit of that rub and maybe get those fans to accept him more. --Cena could get the little kids and teenage girls to like RVD a bit more. Van Dam is already over pretty decent with that crowd, but not as over as Cena, know what I mean? It wouldn't really be that hard or out of the way either. They were already semi pals on SD, and the few times they've interacted they've had good segments. As far as that MITB, they have to let RVD win that. If nothing else as a consolation for this bullshit tonight. Jobbing him out is a terrible idea since Raw has a dearth of guys that the fans actually like. Besides, it's pretty obvious HHH is going to win at WM, so after he gets finished with the Cena feud they're going to need a strong RVD. I could accept that..................... but only if the alliance ends with RVD beating the fuck out of Cena and taking his title away. Seriously, why would RVD want to hang out with that faggot. RVD gives the fans that hate Cena a reason to watch the show. If RVD and Cena started getting all buddy buddy, all it would do is make me start lose interest in RVD and by extension Raw as a whole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Iggy, that storyline could also happen provided RVD wins the MITB and Cena has the title come ONS. Ha, imagine the way Johnny Boy would get trashed if he showed up at that ECW PPV. It'd be almost worth Cena holding the belt another 4 months to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Cena needs to make another A-Team music video. I rather he make a Knight Rider music video. That way Cena can try to leech off Kitt's heat. But, that won't work cause Cena is nowhere near the man that is David Hasselhoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 21, 2006 There's no way in hell that either champion would show up at the ECW PPV. Did they mention it after it occured last year? It's a waste of time mentioning it in the first place. Even if by some odd act it were to occur, RVD wouldn't win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Y2Jerk's sig never said it better.... That's the picture that I supplied to him so long ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just John 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 I remember that pic floating around this board in like September, and I remember thinking that it was spot on. Sadly, five months later, it still is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 I find it funny that it's been obvious what they were going to do for Wrestlemania for months, around a half year or more, but they are just now starting the build for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho2000Mark 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 You know, tonight further illustrated an idea I had about Cena and perhaps RVD. Why not have them form some sort of alliance? Let's face it, Van Dam was about 5x more over than Cena tonight. Having an RVD/Cena alliance would be good for both men on a few levels: --RVD is highly popular with older male fans (20 somethings, maybe 30s), the ECW types, etc. He could give Cena a bit of that rub and maybe get those fans to accept him more. --Cena could get the little kids and teenage girls to like RVD a bit more. Van Dam is already over pretty decent with that crowd, but not as over as Cena, know what I mean? It wouldn't really be that hard or out of the way either. They were already semi pals on SD, and the few times they've interacted they've had good segments. As far as that MITB, they have to let RVD win that. If nothing else as a consolation for this bullshit tonight. Jobbing him out is a terrible idea since Raw has a dearth of guys that the fans actually like. Besides, it's pretty obvious HHH is going to win at WM, so after he gets finished with the Cena feud they're going to need a strong RVD. RVD will not be getting pushed at, or after, WrestleMania. Cena-Triple H will drag on forever. RVD will never headline another PPV unless it's an elimination chamber and they badly need people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danville_Wrestling 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 How is it going to come off in Chicago when a HEEL (or at least a booked one) wins the main event and the world title at the biggest show of the year? That has NEVER happened in WrestleMania history with the exception of the X-7 finish involving Austin's heel turn, but he wasn't booked as a heel entering that match. It just seems like a terrible decision to put HHH-Cena on last so that HHH can go over and piss off all of the wrestling world. Then again, it really is a no-win situation because no one wants to see Cena with the belt any longer and no one wants to see HHH with the belt again. I'm definitely saving my $50 from this WM, the first one I'll refuse to buy since I first became a true fan in 1995. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Wouldn't Angle vs. Orton technically go last since the Rumble winner is always in the final match, and Orton won that stipulation last night? I would rather have Angle vs. Orton go last and have Angle win to "send the fans home happy" or whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tpww7 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Ashley Massaro suffered a broken leg taking her bump out of the ring in a women's Battle Royal earlier tonight on Raw in Trenton, NJ. She suffered a fractured left fibula. Surgery will not be required but she will be out of action for probably two or three months Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Y2Jerk's sig never said it better.... That's the picture that I supplied to him so long ago. Its from October 10th. You used it in the Raw thread, and I saved it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 This Benjamin/Flair match is shit. Flair is very much wrestling like he's an old man. Mama is fucking awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonX 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 How is it going to come off in Chicago when a HEEL (or at least a booked one) wins the main event and the world title at the biggest show of the year? That has NEVER happened in WrestleMania history with the exception of the X-7 finish involving Austin's heel turn, but he wasn't booked as a heel entering that match. It just seems like a terrible decision to put HHH-Cena on last so that HHH can go over and piss off all of the wrestling world. Then again, it really is a no-win situation because no one wants to see Cena with the belt any longer and no one wants to see HHH with the belt again. I'm definitely saving my $50 from this WM, the first one I'll refuse to buy since I first became a true fan in 1995. My guess? We'll be seeing a double turn of epic proportions the next couple of weeks where Cena turns bad and HHH turns good, if only to let HHH get to over as a face at WM and further fuck with Angle by turning face at the expense of Cena being booed after giving Angle shit over not being a good heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 I am not so much mad that RVD lost, I mean I am, but it's not like we all didn't see it coming from a mile away. What irks me the most is the nature in which he lost it. I mean Triple H just grabs him and thrusts him into the Pedigree, no setup move or anything, I mean at least kick RVD in the loweback from behind and then put him in the pedigree. It just comes off looking lame that RVD wasn't able to reverse out of the pedigree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 I will always be amazed at WWE's self-contradiction. I recall all the sentiments thrown around in the late 90's, when people like Foley, Michaels, and HHH touted the WWF's talent at listening to it's fans, compared to WCW. Now we have situations where for years, the most over people on the card haven't been pushed to the top, but have had to carry themselves, working against the book. At least that's what it feels like, watching TV. Rob Van Dam is getting the responses he always had, which have been, literally, outstanding. He's been here before, at the cusp, at the edge. The fans have clamored for him before, and nothing. And nothing again. This time the faces are different. Instead of Brock, we have Cena. Granted, Cena is far far more "into" the business than Lesnar was, but nonetheless, he is the same. He is the same "next big thing" he is the same hype, he is the same hope. WWE seems to fixate on figures now, far far far to early. I don't know if they do it in OVW, or backstage, or whenever. But we all knew that Orton would get his belt, and that Cena would get his. And it wasn't because they were over, it was because they were going to try to get them over. RVD is already over. He is over despite being on TV for less than a month, if memory serves. Certainly far less than Cena. He hasn't gotten the mixed reactions that Cena has gotten with his bland persona. I'm not happy to say that, I see where Cena could go if given the chance to advance himself, both skill wise and character wise. But potential does not equal quality. RVD's time was then, RVD's time is now. I'm sure RVD's time will come again in the future. Because his chances continue to pass him by, like they did tonight. It's not RVD's fault. There seems to be nothing RVD can do. So I guess, I wonder, if there's anything Cena can do. If there's anything Orton can do. If there's anything the writers can do. I DO like the idea of teaming Cena and RVD up. I think team E.C.K. all benefited from their pairing oh so many years ago. Angle now has a depth that allows him to be comedic as well as the bad ass. RVD, and interacting with RVD would definitely change Cena, who has practically no dimensions right now. He's not a character, he's an idea. Maria is helpful. but she's ALSO one dimensional. RVD isn't super deep either, but he's more. He's something. He's something different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 I will always be amazed at WWE's self-contradiction. I recall all the sentiments thrown around in the late 90's, when people like Foley, Michaels, and HHH touted the WWF's talent at listening to it's fans, compared to WCW. Now we have situations where for years, the most over people on the card haven't been pushed to the top, but have had to carry themselves, working against the book. At least that's what it feels like, watching TV. Rob Van Dam is getting the responses he always had, which have been, literally, outstanding. He's been here before, at the cusp, at the edge. The fans have clamored for him before, and nothing. And nothing again. This time the faces are different. Instead of Brock, we have Cena. Granted, Cena is far far more "into" the business than Lesnar was, but nonetheless, he is the same. He is the same "next big thing" he is the same hype, he is the same hope. WWE seems to fixate on figures now, far far far to early. I don't know if they do it in OVW, or backstage, or whenever. But we all knew that Orton would get his belt, and that Cena would get his. And it wasn't because they were over, it was because they were going to try to get them over. RVD is already over. He is over despite being on TV for less than a month, if memory serves. Certainly far less than Cena. He hasn't gotten the mixed reactions that Cena has gotten with his bland persona. I'm not happy to say that, I see where Cena could go if given the chance to advance himself, both skill wise and character wise. But potential does not equal quality. RVD's time was then, RVD's time is now. I'm sure RVD's time will come again in the future. Because his chances continue to pass him by, like they did tonight. It's not RVD's fault. There seems to be nothing RVD can do. So I guess, I wonder, if there's anything Cena can do. If there's anything Orton can do. If there's anything the writers can do. I DO like the idea of teaming Cena and RVD up. I think team E.C.K. all benefited from their pairing oh so many years ago. Angle now has a depth that allows him to be comedic as well as the bad ass. RVD, and interacting with RVD would definitely change Cena, who has practically no dimensions right now. He's not a character, he's an idea. Maria is helpful. but she's ALSO one dimensional. RVD isn't super deep either, but he's more. He's something. He's something different. To add something to this. Let me just say that it's not like WWE has some big money maker or ratings draw right now to justify RVD not getting the spot for at least a month or so. If he fails miserbly, then oh well, what's new, welcome to the Current WWE ME picture. It would be different, REAAALLY different if we were asking Austin or the Rock, or hell even Triple H from a few years ago to step aside for RVD, but who exactly are we asking here, Cena, Orton, Edge...!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4hartthreat 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Meltzer is reporting that Ashley broke her leg being eliminated from the women's battle royal. edit - sorry already posted. missed it.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 I was actually thinking that a rumble is a pretty physical match to put newbies into. That sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dam(o)nYankees Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Ashley Massaro suffered a broken leg taking her bump out of the ring in a women's Battle Royal earlier tonight on Raw in Trenton, NJ. She suffered a fractured left fibula. Surgery will not be required but she will be out of action for probably two or three months Damn. I don't like her by any stretch, but you hate to see that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Damn. I don't like her by any stretch, but you hate to see that. I do? Actually, "thank god" came out of my mouth when I read that. Maybe she'll keep her uncoordinated ass out of the ring now. She should strictly be eyecandy like Stacy Keibler. She makes Candice Michelle look like Chris Benoit. I'm not glad she's hurt, I'm just glad she's not going to be making me run away from the TV in horror for a few weeks when she "wrestles". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dam(o)nYankees Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Damn. I don't like her by any stretch, but you hate to see that. I do? Actually, "thank god" came out of my mouth when I read that. Maybe she'll keep her uncoordinated ass out of the ring now. She should strictly be eyecandy like Stacy Keibler. She makes Candice Michelle look like Chris Benoit. I'm not glad she's hurt, I'm just glad she's not going to be making me run away from the TV in horror for a few weeks when she "wrestles". Well, yes, but I'd much rather she not wrestle because someone realizes she's the worst wrestler in North America than because she broke a leg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Definetly didn't see Triple H cheating to pick up the win. Anything can happen in WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 To add something to this. Let me just say that it's not like WWE has some big money maker or ratings draw right now to justify RVD not getting the spot for at least a month or so. If he fails miserbly, then oh well, what's new, welcome to the Current WWE ME picture. It would be different, REAAALLY different if we were asking Austin or the Rock, or hell even Triple H from a few years ago to step aside for RVD, but who exactly are we asking here, Cena, Orton, Edge...!?! The way I look at: The belt has been on Bradshaw. Fucking Bradshaw. I know he has won some people over, but he had nothing when they put the belt on them. So why not put the belt on RVD? Hell, why not put the belt on Barry Horowitz? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
