Guest Brian Report post Posted April 6, 2006 Final Card Main Event: Keith Jardine vs Stephan Bonnar Rashad Evans vs Sam Hoger - might be ok if they had interviews Josh Neer vs Joe Stevenson Jason von Flue vs Luke Cummo Brad Imes vs Gabriel Gonzaga - boring heavyweights Chael Sonnen vs Trevor Prangley - who are these people Chris Leben vs Luigi Fioravanti - ohhhh chris has a strong chin....so fucking what, he can never finish a fight Josh Koscheck vs Ansar Chalangov Josh Burkman vs Jon Fitch - who? The fights in bold are the one I want to see, I could care less about the rest. Leben's finished 11 of his fifteen wins, including Rivera, Dewees, Swick, and Radach. I don't know what you're talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2006 I just want to see Leben lose. He irritated the hell out of me on TUF. And Hogar of course. I hate Hogar. It wasn't so much the fact that everyone in the house was against him it was just the shit he said whenever they'd interview him. Can Koscheck strike yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2006 Chock Dama up as another victim of Sam's heel schtick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2006 Sam running in on Bonnars UFC.tv vid interview is CLASSIC. HOAGIE~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel_Grace_Blue 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2006 No love for Burkman's 'American Hu-Hitu' style? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2006 I've got love for Burkamans awesome beard but I doubt he'll be rockin' it come fight time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2006 Final Card Main Event: Keith Jardine vs Stephan Bonnar Rashad Evans vs Sam Hoger - might be ok if they had interviews Josh Neer vs Joe Stevenson Jason von Flue vs Luke Cummo Brad Imes vs Gabriel Gonzaga - boring heavyweights Chael Sonnen vs Trevor Prangley - who are these people Chris Leben vs Luigi Fioravanti - ohhhh chris has a strong chin....so fucking what, he can never finish a fight Josh Koscheck vs Ansar Chalangov Josh Burkman vs Jon Fitch - who? The fights in bold are the one I want to see, I could care less about the rest. Leben's finished 11 of his fifteen wins, including Rivera, Dewees, Swick, and Radach. I don't know what you're talking about. How many were knockouts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted April 6, 2006 Final Card Main Event: Keith Jardine vs Stephan Bonnar Rashad Evans vs Sam Hoger - might be ok if they had interviews Josh Neer vs Joe Stevenson Jason von Flue vs Luke Cummo Brad Imes vs Gabriel Gonzaga - boring heavyweights Chael Sonnen vs Trevor Prangley - who are these people Chris Leben vs Luigi Fioravanti - ohhhh chris has a strong chin....so fucking what, he can never finish a fight Josh Koscheck vs Ansar Chalangov Josh Burkman vs Jon Fitch - who? The fights in bold are the one I want to see, I could care less about the rest. Leben's finished 11 of his fifteen wins, including Rivera, Dewees, Swick, and Radach. I don't know what you're talking about. How many were knockouts? 7 knockouts, 4 submissions, 3 decisions. My boy is a finisher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 El Dante is that you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Ugh. This fight thus far is pointing out one of Chris' biggest flaws: he struggles when his opponent is not actively trading with him. His hands are too slow and lack KO power unless his opponent come in wildly swinging and get caught with a blind punch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Boring fight. I really want to see Mike Swick Vs. Chris Lebien 2 already, I think Swick could take him out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Hell No. Same thing would happen that happened in their first fight. Swick would let fly, Leben could eat those until the cows come home, and then land a shot that put him down. I need to upload that fight... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 I dissagree, judging from Swick's reaction to the fight on the 1st season of TUF, he recognized his mistakes from the 1st fight and said he would come in with a different game plan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Final Card Main Event: Keith Jardine vs Stephan Bonnar Rashad Evans vs Sam Hoger - might be ok if they had interviews Josh Neer vs Joe Stevenson Jason von Flue vs Luke Cummo Brad Imes vs Gabriel Gonzaga - boring heavyweights Chael Sonnen vs Trevor Prangley - who are these people Chris Leben vs Luigi Fioravanti - ohhhh chris has a strong chin....so fucking what, he can never finish a fight Josh Koscheck vs Ansar Chalangov Josh Burkman vs Jon Fitch - who? The fights in bold are the one I want to see, I could care less about the rest. Leben's finished 11 of his fifteen wins, including Rivera, Dewees, Swick, and Radach. I don't know what you're talking about. How many were knockouts? 7 knockouts, 4 submissions, 3 decisions. My boy is a finisher. Leben goes to decision, on every UFC show. Where is the one punch knockout power? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted April 7, 2006 He's gone to 2 decisions, three if you count the two-round Koscheck fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 - Chris doesn't have one punch KO power unless his opponent comes in wild... - ...which is exactly what Swick would do again. Swick is infinitely more skilled than Chris, but would leave that giant asshole of a chin of his up in the air and get caught again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 - ...which is exactly what Swick would do again. Swick is infinitely more skilled than Chris, but would leave that giant asshole of a chin of his up in the air and get caught again. I dissagree, judging from Swick's reaction to the fight on the 1st season of TUF, he recognized his mistakes from the 1st fight and said he would come in with a different game plan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Like Lei said, talking and walking are two different things. Swick looks like the same fighter in his fights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 I'm not buying any of the Leben hype. His fights lacks intensity and I just can't get excited about his JD victories. It's not like he is leaving his opponets as cripples or anything. Leben has an unbreakable chin and great overall defense but there is no power in his punches and when he takes the fight to the ground he makes no attempts at submission. Leben's UFN4 fight was lackluster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Stevenson got rocked! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Well, Stevenson still has the same problems that he did as a teenager: a weak-ass bottom game and no stand-up. If Josh had any guard passing ability, this would've been over long ago. Good for Neer, as thus far he's bounced back from the Fickett loss well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Joe seemed to have no way of neutralizing Neer's reach advantage from his guard. Joe couldn't keep him close, and Neer from a distance was just teeing off on him. That reach/height/leverage advantage really controlled the fight (That and the shitty kneebar) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Apparently they don't train leglocks at 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, or Rogan toked up with Bravo minutes before they went live if he thought those leglocks were close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Joe was rocking the Ric Flair red hair dye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golgo 13 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 So will there be another way to see Von Flue/Cummo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Apparently they don't train leglocks at 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, or Rogan toked up with Bravo minutes before they went live if he thought those leglocks were close. I've never trained myself, but I could easily tell that Neers leg was never fully extended (I have bad knees, and that leg lock mgith not have even hurt me), you could see that Neer was still getting some flex and really never felt uncomfortable. EDIT: Just a note, I don't want it to somehow come off that Joe couldn't GET me in a leg lock and break my knee, cus I'm sure he could Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randomguy 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Can somebody summarize what I missed. I just tuned in during Sam/Rashad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Rashad looks good to me in some ways. He has such quick hands and a snappy jab. In fact, he's probably a better pure boxer than 99% of the UFC...but he doesn't have power, and while he can get takedowns easily on the bigger Hoger, he doesn't seem to have any clue what to do once he has the takedown. He's so raw imho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Rashad seems to buy into the idea that arbitrarily bobbing and weaving makes a good boxer. This got him put on his ass against Jardine. Good to see that even after moving to Jackson's camp Rashad refuses to train in submissions. Fucker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2006 Can somebody summarize what I missed. I just tuned in during Sam/Rashad. In the battle between red and blue states, Leben won via JD Joe Stevenson's blond hair turned red from several cuts Shamrock was talking some smack to hype up TUF3 Did I mention that TUF3 is next UFC 59 is sold out TUF3 is next with Shamrock and Ortiz as coaches Xyience is the offical sponser for TUF3 Ortiz vs Griffin will be fighting at UFC59 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
