EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 NL Cy Young: Pedro Martinez, New York Mets; Carpenter finishing 2nd. Players on garbage teams shouldn't win awards. Especially one like the Marlins. It's one thing to make that argument for the MVP, but the Cy Young? Having great teammates is not a pre-requisite to winning an award. To cite an example, would you deny a Cy Young to Steve Carlton in 1972? He led the league in wins, ERA, innings and strikeouts despite playing on a team that lost 97 games. A bit of extreme example, but you get the idea. Managers that might be on the hot seat? Charlie Manuel is one. If the Phillies don't start fast out of the gate, he might get canned. I thought he was actually pretty lucky to survive the off-season. I'm not a big fan of Manuel, but a franchise who would keep firing managers after 86 or 88 win seasons obviously has bigger issues than their choice of manager. It's going to be extremely hard for the Wild Card winner to come out of the AL East because things are going to be so competitive. The Blue Jays, for all they have done, are still only the third best team in the division. The Yanks and Sox will be damn close. Anyone see the potential for the Cardinals to fall off this year? I was almost going to pick against them in the central before realizing there isn't another team that could reasonably win that division (Brewers, maybe?). I've seen that argument before, but I've never seen it work in the real world. Part of the reason is that the best teams overcome the schedule. Also, the Red Sox may have a toughter schedule, but when the Sox play the Yankees for example, someone has to win that game. I think the wild card comes from the East. As for the Cardinals, as long as they have a healthy Albert Pujols they are a serious threat. They lost a few pieces but they still have Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, their leadoff hitter (Eckstein), their ace starter (Chris Carpenter) and their closer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 24, 2006 I just don't like it for any award in general. If Dontrelle were to do that this year, he should win the award. He won't. IMO, the year has to be so outstanding that it completely overshadows the shortcomings of your team. That's gonna be hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Why is everyone blowing the Yankees? They don't have the pitching to go that deep into the playoffs. AL East Winner: New York Yankees AL Central Winner: Chicago White Sox AL West Winner: Los Angeles Angels AL Wild Card Winner: Clevland Indians NL East Winner: New York Mets NL Central Winner: St. Louis Cardinals NL West Winner: Los Angeles Dodgers NL Wild Card Winner: Atlanta Braves AL: ChiSox over Indians Angels over Yankees ChiSox over Angels NL: Cardinals over Braves Mets over Dodgers Cardinals over Mets WS: ChiSox over Cardinals Yeah, pretty standard picks, but I see it happening all over again. I hope I am wrong and the BoSox make the playoffs, but I don't see that happening. You're my new favorite poster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 American League East: New York Central: Chicago West: Oakland Wild card: Toronto Division series: Oakland over New York, Chicago over Toronto ALCS: Chicago over Oakland National League East: New York (fuck it, the Braves are finally done) Central: St. Louis West: San Diego Wild card: Los Angeles Division series: St. Louis over Los Angeles, New York over San Diego NLCS: St. Louis over New York World Series: St. Louis over Chicago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted February 24, 2006 AL East Winner: New York Yankees AL Central Winner: Chicago White Sox's AL West Winner: Oakland A's AL Wild Card Winner: Boston RedSoxs NL East Winner: Atlanta Braves NL Central Winner: Chicago Cubs NL West Winner: San Francisco Giants NL Wild Card Winner: Houston Astros Playoffs: AL: New York Yankees over Oakland A's Boston Redsoxs over Chicago White Sox's Boston over New York NL: Chicago Cubs over Atlanta Braves San Francisco Giants over Houston Astros Cubs over San Fran World Series: Boston Red Soxs over Chicago Cubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 AL EAST: 1. New York 2. Boston 3. Toronto 4. Baltimore 5. Tampa Bay AL CENTRAL: 1. Chicago 2. Minnesota 3. Cleveland 4. Detroit 5. Kansas City AL WEST: 1. Anaheim 2. Oakland 3. Texas 4. Seattle AL Playoffs: NY b. Anaheim Boston b. Chicago NY b. Boston NL EAST: 1. New York 2. Philadelphia 3. Atlanta (THIS IS THE YEAR!) 4. Washington 5. Florida NL CENTRAL: 1. St Louis 2. Houston 3. Chicago 4. Milwaukee 5. Pittsburgh 6. Cincinnati NL WEST: 1. Los Angeles 2. San Francisco 3. San Diego 4. Colorado 5. Arizona NL Playoffs: St Louis b. Los Angeles New York b. Houston St Louis b. New York World Series New York b. St Louis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixrising 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 AL East Champion: New York Yankees AL Central Champion: Chicago White Sox AL West Champion: Oakland Athletics AL Wild Card: Toronto Blue Jays NL East Champion: New York Mets NL Central Champion: St. Louis Cardinals NL West Champion: Los Angeles Dodgers NL Wild Card: Atlanta Braves AL MVP: Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees NL MVP: Albert Pujols, St. Louis Cardinals AL Cy Young: Johan Santana, Minnesota Twins NL Cy Young: Jake Peavy, San Diego Padres Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 AL East Winner: New York Yankees AL Central Winner: Minnesota Twins AL West Winner: Los Angeles Angels AL Wild Card Winner: Cleveland Indians NL East Winner: Philadelphia Phillies NL Central Winner: St. Louis Cardinals NL West Winner: San Diego Padres NL Wild Card Winner: Houston Astros Playoffs: AL: Indians over Yankees Twins over LA Angels Angels over Twins NL: Philadelphia Phillies over St. Louis Cardinals Astros over Padres Cardinals over Phillies World Series: Cardinals over Angels Awards: AL MVP: Travis Hafner, Indians NL MVP: Albert Pujols Cardinals AL Cy Young: Johan Santana Twins NL Cy Young: Jake Peavy, Padres Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Proof that MLB prediction threads are pointless. The season's so long that anything can (and typically does) happen. Czech's comments in that thread are pretty funny in retrospect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Here's 2004. Lots of Cubs going to the World Series and the Royals winning the A.L. Central predictions. Of course the thread kinda drifted off into the usual nonsense from a certain Yankees fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Cy Young: Javier Vazquez (NYY) What.The.Fuck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 I take it someone's entirely unfamiliar with Javier circa 2003. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Not me. I know he was good in Montreal and that Yankee fans were on his jockstrap when he came to New York, but still. I don't know anyone who thought that he would win a Cy Young. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 AL East: Boston Red Sox AL Central: Chicago White Sox (One of these years they are going to remember that they have play the month of September) AL West: Los Angelas Anaheim Angels of California AL Wild Card: New York Yankees NL East: Atlanta Braves (I learned my lesson from last year) NL Central: St. Louis Cardinals NL West: San Diego Padres NL Wild Card: Los Angelas Dodgers 7 for 8 for playoff teams isn't bad. I admit that I screwed up that Dodgers pick, but it was just the Wildcard so cut me some slack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Predicting the White Sox near-collapse was strong, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/base...on/brewers.html Get on board the bandwagon now, kiddies, there won't be room when the train leaves the station. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Proof that MLB prediction threads are pointless. The season's so long that anything can (and typically does) happen. Czech's comments in that thread are pretty funny in retrospect. I'm afraid to look. I bet it was like "with Wood, Prior, Zambrano, AND Maddux, there's no WAY things can go wrong!" I'll edit the post after recoiling in fear of my fermented wisdom. EDIT: Astros over Cubs?!?? Are you fucking high? BREWERS over Cubs? Jesus, people. You're fucking killing me. EDIT 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO They're two of the best front office men around. I trust their judgment. The Cubs have concerns with Wood and Prior, and if those two miss significant time, it could be a long season, but who knows? Sure did! Sure was! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 AL East: New York Yankees AL Central: Chicago White Sox AL West: Anaheim Angels AL Wild Card: Cleveland Indians NL East: Atlanta Braves NL Central: St. Louis Cardinals NL West: San Diego Padres NL Wild Card:Philadelphia Phillies ALDS Yankees over Indians Angels over White Sox NLDS Cardinals over Phillies Braves over Padres ALCS Yankees over Angels NLCS Cardinals over Braves World Series Yankees over Cardinals in 6 Awards AL MVP: Alex Rodreiguz-New York Yankees NL MVP: Albert Pujols-St. Louis Cardinals AL Cy Young: Johan Santana-Minnesota Twins NL Cy Young: Dontrelle Willis-Florida Marlins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 The Brewers are going to cause problems for the Central teams, but I think they're probably one year away. St. Louis, Chicago, and Houston are all still very strong in the division, and there's still more than a few unknowns on their team. Does Turnbow hold up over another year? How badly does Capuano regress, if at all? Will Prince Fielder be an offensive factor? As for "everybody blowing the Yankees", they won 100 games last year with Bernie and Womack playing in the outfield and plenty of injuries on the pitching staff. I don't think they'll win 100 this year, but they will still be very competitive: Damon is an improvement, and Cano may continue to get better. And yeah, the A's look great on paper, but there's plenty of questions there as well. Does Huston Street keep performing at such a spectacular level? Do Milton Bradley and Frank Thomas hold up through the whole year? I think they'll have a real race on their hands in the West and, while I think they're good to enough to win, I'm not sure that they're really stacked enough to make a full push to the World Series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 [BREWERS over Cubs? Jesus, people. You're fucking killing me. Were you watching last year? It happened in 2005, it's going to happen again in 2006. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 That was Czech's comment before the 2005 season. I don't make predictions, but I could easily see the Cubs finishing higher than the Brewers this season. Like MiB said, it may be a year or two before the Brewers take that next step. The Cubs meanwhile had an obvious weakness with their outfield and they've addressed that somewhat. They're not great but there is no horrific sinkhole this time around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 [ BREWERS over Cubs? Jesus, people. You're fucking killing me. Were you watching last year? It happened in 2005, it's going to happen again in 2006. You know what's fun? Reading posts. There's a lot you can pick up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 The Brewers are going to cause problems for the Central teams, but I think they're probably one year away. St. Louis, Chicago, and Houston are all still very strong in the division, and there's still more than a few unknowns on their team. Does Turnbow hold up over another year? How badly does Capuano regress, if at all? Will Prince Fielder be an offensive factor? As for "everybody blowing the Yankees", they won 100 games last year with Bernie and Womack playing in the outfield and plenty of injuries on the pitching staff. I don't think they'll win 100 this year, but they will still be very competitive: Damon is an improvement, and Cano may continue to get better. And yeah, the A's look great on paper, but there's plenty of questions there as well. Does Huston Street keep performing at such a spectacular level? Do Milton Bradley and Frank Thomas hold up through the whole year? I think they'll have a real race on their hands in the West and, while I think they're good to enough to win, I'm not sure that they're really stacked enough to make a full push to the World Series. The Yankees won 95 games last year, the same as the Red Sox. Other than CF, they didn't really upgrade the team in any significant way this offseason. It's far from a sure thing that they will win that division. The A's were really good last year, despite a horrendous start and breaking in a lot of young guys. They've added Thomas, Bradley and Loaiza. They are deep, play great defense and have fantastic pitching front to bottom. That's enough to make a World Series push. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Am I the only one who thinks Thomas could be a possible sleeper for the A's? I know he's got the health issues, but if he stays healthy even for a good chunk of the season, he's a sound investment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 The Cubs meanwhile had an obvious weakness with their outfield and they've addressed that somewhat. They're not great but there is no horrific sinkhole this time around. Part of me has this sinking feeling that Dusty's going to find a way to cut Murton's playing time with help from Grissom and Mabry. And while it's too early to complain, Murton shouldn't be batting seventh or eighth again. Seems like a lineup that started with Pierre, Murton, Lee could put up some solid numbers. Neifi's presence wouldn't annoying if he were batting in a more appropriate spot in the order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 Am I the only one who thinks Thomas could be a possible sleeper for the A's? I know he's got the health issues, but if he stays healthy even for a good chunk of the season, he's a sound investment. That's a pretty large "if", given that his ankle is held together by a couple of staples and some chewing gum. There could also be some significant impact for Thomas in moving from a hitter's haven in Chicago to Oakland, on top of the fact that he's a year older. But the real concern is health - I think Oakland would be very fortunate to get 250 at-bats and 10-12 homers from the Big Hurt this year. The Yankees won 95 games last year, the same as the Red Sox. Other than CF, they didn't really upgrade the team in any significant way this offseason. It's far from a sure thing that they will win that division. Thanks for the correction. I meant to have an "almost" in there, for "almost" winning 95, but I missed putting it in there. And yeah, I agree with you on the Yankees. They're not going to win 100 games and just walk away with the division lead, but I would still consider them the favorite. Boston did not improve appreciably with their offseason moves; Crisp may outperform Damon in center field, and Beckett (along with a healthy Schilling) will undoubtedly bolster their rotation, but I have no idea what they're getting from the corner infield positions and there's virtually no outfield depth, should one of the starters get hurt. Toronto will probably do enough damage to both Boston and New York to make themselves a factor in the race, but I don't see them having enough offense to break through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 *= Wildcard AL East 1) Redsox 2) Yankees 3) Bluejays 4) Devilrays 5) Orioles AL Central 1) Indians 2) White Sox* 3) Tigers 4) Twins 5) Royals AL West 1) A's 2) Angels 3) Mariners 4) Texas N East 1) Braves 2) Mets* 3) Phillies 4) Marlins 5) Nationals NL Central 1) Cardinals 2) Astros 3) Brewers 4) Cubs 5) Reds 6) Pirates NL West 1) Giants 2) Dodgers 3) Padres 4) Rockies 5 extras Jim Rollins will extend his streak to 45 games Mark Prior will be traded by the deadline to the AL Cardinals will win the World Series Joe Torre will retire after this year Bonds will break Hank Aaron's record Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megaadvice 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 AL East: New York Yankees AL Central: Chicago White Sox AL West: LA Angels AL Wild Card: Boston Red Sox NL East: Philadelphia Phillies NL Central: Chicago Cubs NL West: San Diego Padres NL Wild Card: New York Mets ALDS Indians over Yankees (not enough pitching to go all the way) Angels over Red Sox NLDS Cubs over Mets Phillies over Padres ALCS Indians over Angels NLCS Cubs over Philles World Series Indians over Cubs (in 7) Awards AL MVP: Alex Rodreiguz- Yankees NL MVP: Derick Lee - Cubs AL Cy Young: Johan Santana- Twins NL Cy Young: Carlos Zambrano - Cubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 AL East: New York Yankees AL Central: Chicago White Sox AL West: LA Angels AL Wild Card: Boston Red Sox NL East: Philadelphia Phillies NL Central: Chicago Cubs NL West: San Diego Padres NL Wild Card: New York Mets ALDS Indians over Yankees (not enough pitching to go all the way) Angels over Red Sox NLDS Cubs over Mets Phillies over Padres ALCS Indians over Angels NLCS Cubs over Philles World Series Indians over Cubs (in 7) Awards AL MVP: Alex Rodreiguz- Yankees NL MVP: Derick Lee - Cubs AL Cy Young: Johan Santana- Twins NL Cy Young: Carlos Zambrano - Cubs So you have White Sox winning the division and Red Sox winning the wildcard, and yet Cleveland wins it all? Huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2006 In September I'm going to come back to this thread and laugh at anyone who has the Indians winning the World Series or the Yankees not making the playoffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites