NBA Offseason Thread

[Just John 0]

If they fire Saunders after this season, no coach will want to go there.

 

And I wouldn't blame them. Even with a bad rep, a coach doesn't deserve to be fired for his stars not hitting open shots. After all, if the looks are good, then coach is doing all he can. He can't hit the lay-ups and open 3's himself.

[dh86 0]

If they fire Saunders after this season, no coach will want to go there.

 

idiotic statement....but firing yet another coach would be horribly stupid..say they hire Adelman and he dont win the title..hes fired too? lol

[bobobrazil1984 0]

if they were to fire Flip it shouldn't be because of THIS PARTICULAR series or even playoffs or anything, it should be because of the larger issue of turning the team into an all perimeter team. The players get just as much blame as the coaches for the playoffs themselves. what happened is the nightmare scenario when you're a jump shooting team. the jump shots are not falling, and every next jump shot's pressure doubles each time. and they look impotent when tryign to switch to an inside game.

 

btw Rick Adelmen is not the answer imo.

[naiwf 0]

You don't fire Flip because of the outcome of the season, you fire Flip because of the result of his coaching, ie they don't play lock down defense anymore, AND he turned the Pistons into a jump shooting team. The Pistons! Next year won't be any better because the core players already don't respect him. It's Larry Brown all over again.

[Just John 0]

I don't know how much of the Pistons defensive problems are because of Flip. I doubt he tells them "Don't play any D, we'll just win at the other end." And the D was still good most of the season. It only started to look bad against Miami because Ben Wallace saw less playing time, due to the need for more scoring. I think the Pistons need to look at what they're putting on the floor before changing coaches again. They ended up in the same postion with Flip that they've been in the last few years under Brown and Carlisle, close but no cigar (minus 04).

 

I'll support a Detroit coaching change next year if they show substantial dropoff from this year. You don't need to replace a coach that got you to the conference finals.

[Guest]

If they fire Saunders after this season, no coach will want to go there.

 

idiotic statement....but firing yet another coach would be horribly stupid..say they hire Adelman and he dont win the title..hes fired too? lol

By no coach, I mean no coach worth having.

 

Adelman wouldn't get them near the title.

[Ripper 0]

The same pistons bitching at the end of the year about defensive coaching, are the same ones that earlier this year talking about how they did more defensive drills this season than the last two under Brown.

 

Honestly, the Pistons acted like a Larry Brown coached team this year. When things got tough, blame someone else.

 

Flip Saunders didn't tell Chauncy Billups and Rasheed Wallace to pass up wide open lanes to the basket to take 16 footers. He didn't tell the screeners to get lazy when Rip Hamilton was doubled off the screens and not roll to the basket. They played like shit on the court and couldn't hit a open shot.

 

I think he should have went to some guys like Delfino or Tony Delk in this series...guys that are proven defenders that can actually hit a open shot. But he went to Maurice Evans who can honestly do neither.

[godthedog 0]

so if saunders is fired, nobody will want to coach the pistons, and with good reason.

 

but if one of the starting 5 gets traded (especially wallace), morale will more likely than not go down the shitter. the "greater than the sum of their parts" mentality that MAKES them the pistons will be gone; guys who felt safe and at home in the system might now feel like if they'll have to win a championship next year just to not get traded away.

[Guest]

And that kind of pressure wears on a team and causes chaos. Players would try to do too much.

[naiwf 0]

I don't think any team would try a sign and trade for Ben after his playoff run, especially since he's an UFA, but the Pistons can't max him out. I don't know if he would take a hefty hometown discount, but that's the only way they can make the money work with Billups and Rip coming up on what are sure to be near max deals at worst.

[Ripper 0]

I don't think any team would try a sign and trade for Ben after his playoff run, especially since he's an UFA, but the Pistons can't max him out. I don't know if he would take a hefty hometown discount, but that's the only way they can make the money work with Billups and Rip coming up on what are sure to be near max deals at worst.

 

The Hawks are going to offer him Max money just out of spite. They have money and no free agents worth a damn coming and need a PF/Center.

 

Plus he and Josh Smith on the same team means that noone will ever be able to score against the Hawks at the basket again.

[Brett Favre 0]

Sign Ben Wallace, and draft Randy Foye, and you'll have some crazy ass defense on that team.

[Ripper 0]

They would be better off with Marcus Williams with all those freakish athletes on the team.

 

By the way, I have been holding off for a few years now(rightfully so) for a few years now, but I am about to make the call....the Hawks...playoffs...next year.

 

 

Call me crazy, but I see it happening.

[Guest]

No, you're right.

 

Toronto will be near them within the next two years.

[alfdogg 0]

There was discussion of the Cavs possibly looking to shop Z shortly after they were bounced from the playoffs. If the Pistons really want scoring in the post, there's the possibility of a center swap, but that would just present the Cavs with the same problem the Pistons have. I suppose Drew Gooden's okay, but there's been talks of trading him as well to upgrade at the PG position, possibly getting Andre Miller back. Plus, Z's no younger than Ben, and then there's the whole trading within the division thing.

[alfdogg 0]

Here are the free agents this summer (compiled from HoopsHype.com & NBA.com)

 

®: Restricted, (P): Player Option, (T): Team Option

 

Team Options give the team the right to invoke the option year. There can be only one option year, and the option year can't be for a lower salary than the previous season.

 

Player Options give the player the right to invoke the option year. There can be only one option year, and the option year can't be for a lower salary than the previous season.

 

Atlanta Hawks

Under contract: Esteban Batista, Josh Childress, John Edwards, Joe Johnson, Tyronn Lue, Zaza Pachulia, Josh Smith, Salim Stoudamire, Marvin Williams

Free Agents: Anthony Grundy, Al Harrington, Royal Ivey, Donta Smith (T)

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Boston Celtics

Under contract: Tony Allen, Dan Dickau, Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Orien Greene, Al Jefferson, Dwayne Jones, Raef LaFrentz, Kendrick Perkins, Paul Pierce, Brian Scalabrine, Wally Szczerbiak, Delonte West

Free Agents: Michael Olowokandi

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Charlotte Bobcats

Under contract: Alan Anderson, Primoz Brezec, Matt Carroll, Raymond Felton, Brevin Knight, Sean May, Emeka Okafor, Bernard Robinson, Jake Voskuhl, Gerald Wallace

Free Agents: Lonny Baxter, Kevin Burleson, Melvin Ely ®, Jumaine Jones

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Chicago Bulls

Under contract: Malik Allen, Eddie Basden, Tyson Chandler, Luol Deng, Chris Duhon, Ben Gordon, Othella Harrington, Kirk Hinrich, Andres Nocioni, Mike Sweetney

Free Agents: Randy Livingston, Jannero Pargo, Eric Piatkowski, Darius Songalia (P), Luke Schenscher

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Cleveland Cavaliers

Under contract: Martynas Andriuskevicius, Larry Hughes, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Luke Jackson, LeBron James, Damon Jones, Donyell Marshall, Ira Newble, Aleksandar Pavlovic, Eric Snow, Anderson Varejao

Free Agents: Drew Gooden ®, Stephen Graham, Alan Henderson, Ronald Murray

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Dallas Mavericks

Under contract: Erick Dampier, Marquis Daniels, DeSagana Diop, Devin Harris, Josh Howard, Dirk Nowitzki, Josh Powell, Jerry Stackhouse

Free Agents: Darrell Armstrong, Adrian Griffin, D.J. Mbenga, Jason Terry, Keith Van Horn

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Denver Nuggets

Under contract: Caremlo Anthony, Earl Boykins, Marcus Camby, Julius Hodge, Linas Kleiza, Kenyon Martin, Andre Miller, Eduardo Najera, Ruben Patterson

Free Agents: Greg Buckner, Howard Eisley, Francisco Elson, Reggie Evans, DerMarr Johnson, Nene ®

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Detroit Pistons

Under contract: Chauncey Billups, Dale Davis, Carlos Delfino, Maurice Evans, Richard Hamilton, Jason Maxiell, Antonio McDyess, Tayshaun Prince, Rasheed Wallace

Free Agents: Kelvin Cato, Tony Delk, Lindsey Hunter, Ben Wallace

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Golden State Warriors

Under contract: Andris Biedrins, Zarko Cabarkapa, Baron Davis, Ike Diogu, Mike Dunleavy, Monta Ellis, Derek Fisher, Adonal Foyle, Troy Murphy, Mickael Pietrus, Jason Richardson, Chris Taft

Free Agents: Will Bynum, Calbert Cheaney

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Houston Rockets

Under contract: Rafer Alston, Chuck Hayes, Luther Head, Juwan Howard, Maciej Lampe, Tracy McGrady, Dikembe Mutombo, Bob Sura, Stromile Swift, Yao Ming

Free Agents: Keith Bogans, Ryan Bowen (P), Rick Brunson, Richie Frahm, David Wesley

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Indiana Pacers

Under contract: Austin Croshere, Jeff Foster, Danny Granger, David Harrison, Stephen Jackson, Sarunas Jasikevicius, Anthony Johnson, Jermaine O'Neal, Jamaal Tinsley

Free Agents: Eddie Gill, Fred Jones ®, Scot Pollard, Peja Stojakovic (P)

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Los Angeles Clippers

Under contract: Elton Brand, Daniel Ewing, Chris Kaman, Shaun Livingston, Corey Maggette, Cuttino Mobley, Zeljko Rebraca, Quinton Ross, James Singleton

Free Agents: Vin Baker, Sam Cassell, Walter McCarty, Vladmir Radmanovic

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Los Angeles Lakers

Under contract: Kwame Brown, Kobe Bryant, Andrew Bynum, Brian Cook, Aaron McKie, Chris Mihm, Lamar Odom, Smush Parker, Ronny Turiaf, Sasha Vujajic, Luke Walton

Free Agents: Devean George, Jim Jackson

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Memphis Grizzlies

Under contract: Shane Battier, Brian Cardinal, Pau Gasol, Dahntay Jones, Eddie Jones, Mike Miller, Damon Stoudamire, Jake Tsakalidis, Hakim Warrick

Free Agents: Chucky Atkins, Antonio Burks, Bobby Jackson, Anthony Roberson (T), Lawrence Roberts (T), Lorenzen Wright

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Miami Heat

Under contract: Earl Barron, Michael Doleac, Udonis Haslem, Jason Kapono, Shaquille O'Neal, Wayne Simien, Dwyane Wade, Antoine Walker, Jason Williams, Dorell Wright

Free Agents: Derek Anderson (P), Shandon Anderson, Alonzo Mourning, Gary Payton, James Posey (P)

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Milwaukee Bucks

Under contract: Charlie Bell, Andrew Bogut, T.J. Ford, Dan Gadzuric, Jamaal Magloire, Michael Redd, Bobby Simmons, Joe Smith, Maurice Williams

Free Agents: Jermaine Jackson, Ervin Johnson, Toni Kukoc, Jiri Welsch

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Minnesota Timberwolves

Under contract: Mark Blount, Ricky Davis, Kevin Garnett, Eddie Griffin, Trenton Hassell, Troy Hudson, Marko Jaric, Mark Madsen, Rashad McCants, Bracey Wright

Free Agents: Marcus Banks, Anthony Carter, Ronald Dupree, Justin Reed

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New Jersey Nets

Under contract: Vince Carter, Jason Collins, Richard Jefferson, Jason Kidd, Nenad Krstic, Bostjan Nachbar, Scott Padgett, Zoran Planinic, Antoine Wright

Free Agents: Lamond Murray, Clifford Robinson (T), John Thomas, Jacque Vaughn

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NO/OK Hornets

Under contract: P.J. Brown, Marc Jackson, Arvydas Macijauskas, Desmond Mason, Chris Paul, J.R. Smith, Kirk Snyder, David West

Free Agents: Brandon Bass (T), Rasual Butler, Speedy Claxton, Marcus Fizer, Linton Johnson III, Moochie Norris (T), Aaron Williams

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New York Knicks

Under contract: Jamal Crawford, Eddy Curry, Steve Francis, Channing Frye, Jerome James, David Lee, Stephon Marbury, Quentin Richardson, Nate Robinson, Jalen Rose, Malik Rose, Maurice Taylor

Free Agents: Jackie Butler, Ime Udoka, Qyntel Woods

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Orlando Magic

Under contract: Carlos Arroyo, Tony Battie, Travis Diener, Keyon Dooling, Pat Garrity, Grant Hill, Dwight Howard, Darko Milicic, Jameer Nelson, Hedo Turkoglu

Free Agents: Trevor Ariza, Stacey Augmon, Mario Kasun, Bo Outlaw, DeShawn Stevenson

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Philadelphia 76ers

Under contract: Samuel Dalembert, Steven Hunter, Andre Igoudala, Allen Iverson, Kyle Korver, Kevin Ollie, John Salmons, Louis Williams

Free Agents: Matt Barnes, Michael Bradley, Willie Green (P), Shavlik Randolph, Chris Webber (P)

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Phoenix Suns

Under contract: Leandro Barbosa, Raja Bell, Boris Diaw, Eddie House, James Jones, Shawn Marion, Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Kurt Thomas, Nikoloz Tskitishvili

Free Agents: Pat Burke (P), Brian Grant (P), Tim Thomas

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Portland Trailblazers

Under contract: Steve Blake, Juan Dixon, Ha Seung-Jin, Jarrett Jack, Vitor Khryapa, Darius Miles, Travis Outlaw, Zach Randolph, Theo Ratliff, Brian Skinner, Sebastian Telfair, Martell Webster

Free Agents: Voshon Lenard, Joel Przybilla

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Sacramento Kings

Under contract: Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Ron Artest, Mike Bibby, Francisco Garcia, Kevin Martin, Brad Miller, Vitaly Potapenko, Ronnie Price, Kenny Thomas, Corliss Williamson

Free Agents: Jason Hart (P), Jamal Sampson, Bonzi Wells

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San Antonio Spurs

Under contract: Brent Barry, Bruce Bowen, Tim Duncan, Michael Finley, Manu Ginobili, Robert Horry, Fabricio Oberto, Tony Parker, Beno Udrih

Free Agents: Sean Marks, Nazr Mohammed, Nick Van Exel

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Players added: Matt Bonner (trade w/ Toronto), Eric Williams (trade w/ Toronto)

Players lost: Rasho Nesterovic (trade w/Toronto)

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Seattle SuperSonics

Under contract: Ray Allen, Nick Collison, Danny Fortson, Rashard Lewis, Mikki Moore, Johan Petro, Luke Ridnour, Robert Swift, Earl Watson, Damien Wilkins

Free Agents: Noel Felix, Chris Wilcox ®, Mike Wilks

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Toronto Raptors

Under contract: Andre Barrett, Chris Bosh, Jose Calderon, Joey Graham, Morris Peterson, Pape Sow, Charlie Villanueva

Free Agents: Mike James (P), Darrick Martin, Alvin Williams (P), Loren Woods

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Players added: Kris Humphries (trade w/Utah), Rasho Nesterovic (trade w/San Antonio), Robert Whaley (trade w/Utah)

Players lost: Rafael Araujo (trade w/Utah), Matt Bonner (trade w/San Antonio), Eric Williams (trade w/San Antonio)

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Utah Jazz

Under contract: Carlos Boozer, Gordon Giricek, Andrei Kirilenko, C.J. Miles, Mehmet Okur, Deron Williams

Free Agents: Devin Brown (T), Jarron Collins, Matt Harpring, Keith McLeod, Andre Owens, Milt Palacio

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Players added: Rafael Araujo (trade w/Toronto)

Players lost: Kris Humphries (trade w/Toronto), Greg Ostertag (retired), Robert Whaley (trade w/Toronto)

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Washington Wizards

Under contract: Gilbert Arenas, Andray Blatche, Calvin Booth, Caron Butler, Antonio Daniels, Jarvis Hayes, Brendan Haywood, Antawn Jamison, Peter John Ramos, Michael Ruffin, Etan Thomas

Free Agents: Jared Jeffries ®, Awvee Storey, Donell Taylor, Billy Thomas

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Not sure how reliable these are, but all the stuff on the Pacers' side of things check out okay.

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

Sacramento looks about right.

[naiwf 0]

Maybe the Knicks can try to get a sign and trade for Olowakandi to give us another underachieving, soft as pudding, big man in the low blocks.

 

Unless I missed a huge name somewhere in the mix this year's FA crop is horrendous.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

It's pretty bad. If Joe Johnson and Michael Redd got max deals last year--good players, but in my opinion, probably not quite proven as max guys--you're probably going to get someone throwing 5 years and $75 million at Ben Wallace. I wonder if teams will be conscious of that this year, or if Bonzi Wells is going to get $10 million a year. The more interesting aspect of the offseason is going to be seeing who of the LeBron, Wade, Carmelo, and Bosh crew sign extensions. And I also really want to see with what the Clippers do with all their pieces.

[Ripper 0]

It's pretty bad. If Joe Johnson and Michael Redd got max deals last year--good players, but in my opinion, probably not quite proven as max guys--you're probably going to get someone throwing 5 years and $75 million at Ben Wallace. I wonder if teams will be conscious of that this year, or if Bonzi Wells is going to get $10 million a year. The more interesting aspect of the offseason is going to be seeing who of the LeBron, Wade, Carmelo, and Bosh crew sign extensions. And I also really want to see with what the Clippers do with all their pieces.

 

 

I think both Joe Johnson and Michael Redd proved they were max player money last year and it really wasn't hard to see that they both deserved it.

[alfdogg 0]

We have our first trade of the offseason.

 

Toronto trades Rafael Araujo and cash considerations to Utah for Kris Humphries and Robert Whaley.

 

Link~

 

Colangelo's wasting no time in cleaning up Babcock's mess, it seems.

[Maztinho 0]

We have our first trade of the offseason.

 

Toronto trades Rafael Araujo and cash considerations to Utah for Kris Humphries and Robert Whaley.

 

Link~

 

Colangelo's wasting no time in cleaning up Babcock's mess, it seems.

 

Stupid homer GM. Araujo is decent, but come on... then again, Utah never used Humphries. The kid must have gotten in Sloan's doghouse, and nobody gets out of that baby.

[Precious Roy 0]

I must have missed the memo, WHY should the Pistons trade Ben Wallace again? I realize we're getting a lot of knee jerk reactions from bummed out Pistons fans here, but what exactly does losing the best defensive center in the game get them? You think dropping Wallace to max out their backcourt makes them more of a playoff contender? I didn't see his lack of offense and poor free throw shooting being such a problem when y'all were in the finals. So what's the difference? Oh yeah, you hired F'n FLIP SAUNDERS to coach your team. See you in hell you spoiled bastards.

 

Oh, and remind me to smack Joe Dumars upside the head the next time I see him, for not only DRAFTING Darko Milicic, but basically giving him away for nothing before he ever got any run with the team. If they were to even consider moving Ben Wallace it should only be because they had Darko ready to go. And sorry, they're neither signing Joel Pryzbilla nor reviving Dale Davis' lifeless corpse. Hey, Vin Baker is on the market too!

 

And back to Flippy, the only reason Rasheed Wallace has regressed is because FLIP HAS ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN. Why was Wallace so good in the post when he first got to Detroit? BECAUSE LARRY BROWN DEMANDED IT! It's the same reason why KG evolved into a jump shooter rather than the dominant post player he could be....Flip thinks big men shooting jumpers has all kinds of cache. It does, but not at the expense of good post play.

 

Morons. I hate the fucking Pistons.

[naiwf 0]

I must have missed the memo, WHY should the Pistons trade Ben Wallace again?

 

He's an unrestricted free agent. The ever changing rules to make the game more offensive limit his value in the future. If they can get someone young(er) and talented in a sign and trade, why shouldn't they do it?

[Precious Roy 0]

I must have missed the memo, WHY should the Pistons trade Ben Wallace again?

 

He's an unrestricted free agent. The ever changing rules to make the game more offensive limit his value in the future. If they can get someone young(er) and talented in a sign and trade, why shouldn't they do it?

 

Because without no Ben Wallace there IS no Pistons, and you sure as hell wouldn't have that championship from a few years back. Show the man some respect. That team ain't sniffing a championship without him.

 

You can ignore the earlier hostility, I'm just bitter about the Knicks' situation and it's absolutely blowing my mind to see Pistons fans speak so casually about trading one of the greatest defenders of all-time. Anyone short of Tim Duncan would be a downgrade. You won a championship and made it to a Finals game 7 with Ben Wallace's limitations, why is that any different now? Oh yeah, again, you traded one of the greatest fucking coaches of all-time for a hack who wouldn't even be in the league if he wasn't Kevin McHale's roomate 25 years ago.

 

And Joe Dumars may be severely overrated as an exec, but he's not RETARDED. He didn't trade Darko for an expiring contract so he could re-up RIP HAMILTON over keeping Ben Wallace. Please.

[Guest Vitamin X]

You know, being a Knicks fan, shouldn't that also tell you something about losing Larry Brown NOT being the cause of the Pistons' downfall?

 

They had the best regular season record and made it to the Eastern Conference Finals losing to a talented Miami squad in Game 6. It's not exactly like they missed the playoffs or lost in the first round to a team they should have soundly beaten.

 

Although I will agree with you on Ben Wallace.

[dh86 0]

I must have missed the memo, WHY should the Pistons trade Ben Wallace again? I realize we're getting a lot of knee jerk reactions from bummed out Pistons fans here, but what exactly does losing the best defensive center in the game get them? You think dropping Wallace to max out their backcourt makes them more of a playoff contender? I didn't see his lack of offense and poor free throw shooting being such a problem when y'all were in the finals. So what's the difference? Oh yeah, you hired F'n FLIP SAUNDERS to coach your team. See you in hell you spoiled bastards.

 

Oh, and remind me to smack Joe Dumars upside the head the next time I see him, for not only DRAFTING Darko Milicic, but basically giving him away for nothing before he ever got any run with the team. If they were to even consider moving Ben Wallace it should only be because they had Darko ready to go. And sorry, they're neither signing Joel Pryzbilla nor reviving Dale Davis' lifeless corpse. Hey, Vin Baker is on the market too!

 

And back to Flippy, the only reason Rasheed Wallace has regressed is because FLIP HAS ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN. Why was Wallace so good in the post when he first got to Detroit? BECAUSE LARRY BROWN DEMANDED IT! It's the same reason why KG evolved into a jump shooter rather than the dominant post player he could be....Flip thinks big men shooting jumpers has all kinds of cache. It does, but not at the expense of good post play.

 

Morons. I hate the fucking Pistons.

 

BS....Rasheed was given free reign to shoot the ball under Larry Brown...he was in the post as much then as now....and no one on the Pistons is getting maxed out nor worth getting the max...thats why the team will be rebuilt either this year or next year

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

I think they should keep him, but I can see why they probably won't be able to. He's the best free agent in a weak class, and someone's probably going to give him a max offer or something very close to it. To play devil's advocate: is Detroit really going to want to commit $75 million to a player who's on the decline? His averages this season were the lowest they've been in his years in Detroit, and he'll be 32 at the start of the next season. I think he's such a good fit for Detroit that they'd do much better getting rid of Rasheed and finding a low-post guy to replace him, but it'll all depend on who they want to hold on to.

[Brett Favre 0]

BS....Rasheed was given free reign to shoot the ball under Larry Brown...he was in the post as much then as now....

 

Well, he shot 200 more 3 pointers this year than the last.

[Precious Roy 0]

BS....Rasheed was given free reign to shoot the ball under Larry Brown...he was in the post as much then as now....

 

So why do we have a gang of Pistons fans complaining about how he's stopped going into the post and become a 6-11 2 guard? He attempted 434 deep balls this past season. That's almost TWO HUNDRED MORE than the year before!!!

 

Rasheed Wallace isn't the problem though. I place the blame for that squarely on Flip Saunders. He's a 'players coach' which is NBA code word for 'guy who can't coach for shit but he's nice to the players so they resist the urge to mutiny'. He's never gotten a team to perform to it's full potential, and players fall into bad habits under him.

 

Larry Brown's problem in NY? Hoooooooboy.....we can start with the oil and water relationship with "the best PG in the nba" and end with the abortion of a front office.....but let's just say he was a better fit in Detroit and leave it at that.