X-Men 3

[Failed Bridge 0]

Of course, if the cure is just temporary then will Mystique be back in X4?

I hope to god that they just leave it alone now. I don't get how Stan Lee could give the ok on the direction taken in this film. It was basically a slap in the face to those whom followed the comics for so long (and were hoping to get a good Pheonix story after the great job done with the second film) and looked as if it were just aimed at the casual movie fan that likes pointless violence with no real direction.

[Anya 0]

The phoenix story not following the comic is the smartest thing they did. Aliens? That stuff is so stupid. Even in a comics or cartoons.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

him: she wants to make a shounen ai thing with Jonny Storm and Pyro doesn't she?

me: *whistles innocently*

him: ok, I'm not taking anything she says seriously anymore

Well, actually, I don't want to make a shounen-ai thingy (tell me, how does your friend know these terms? Hmm, something suspicious there...) just a vid of two guys who are impulsive, and hot (as in, lots of fire).

 

You know, in writing my defense, I realized there was no way to deny your friends' claim, given that both are clearly flamers.

 

The song itself is fairly heavy on the beats, while the lyrics are wannabe-rebellious. Would give me a chance to play around with quick-cutting and effects.

 

Though now I have a random, somewhat related thought. If Pyro can manipulate fire, what of the fire that Johnny could create? Could he be able to manipulate that as well?

[Anya 0]

My guess is that if Storm set something on fire and then left or whatever Pyro could control it but not the fire around his body. Johnny's own control would override Pyro's.

[JMFabiano524 0]

I actually just found out about the meaning of the Juggernaut line. Between talk of his questionable talent and writing for the internet to compensate, would this make Ratner the Vince Russo of motion pictures now????

[AndrewTS 0]

him: she wants to make a shounen ai thing with Jonny Storm and Pyro doesn't she?

me: *whistles innocently*

him: ok, I'm not taking anything she says seriously anymore

Well, actually, I don't want to make a shounen-ai thingy (tell me, how does your friend know these terms? Hmm, something suspicious there...) just a vid of two guys who are impulsive, and hot (as in, lots of fire).

 

Naw, just a big anime fan, much bigger than myself (I'm casual at most on that).

[Guest adamsummers]

i honestly dont see how anyone could say this was a good movie, or even enjoyable. i saw it today and thought it was horrible. the best part was seeing the "click" preview, along with "ghost rider". this movie was a HUGE dissappointment... which is sad. Angel should have had more airtime, the confrontation between iceman & pyro should have been sooo much more, and come on.... honestly having "phoeix" in this movie was completely pointless. maybe i am being too hard on this film, but i cant believe how crappy it turned out. the director should be ashmed.

[dubq 0]

The phoenix story not following the comic is the smartest thing they did. Aliens? That stuff is so stupid. Even in a comics or cartoons.

 

Just shut up, ok?

[dubq 0]

i honestly dont see how anyone could say this was a good movie, or even enjoyable. i saw it today and thought it was horrible. the best part was seeing the "click" preview, along with "ghost rider". this movie was a HUGE dissappointment... which is sad. Angel should have had more airtime, the confrontation between iceman & pyro should have been sooo much more, and come on.... honestly having "phoeix" in this movie was completely pointless. maybe i am being too hard on this film, but i cant believe how crappy it turned out. the director should be ashmed.

 

100% agreement on the Iceman/Pyro fight. I don't see how people can give kudos to the action sequences. All of the fights had such mediocre climaxes.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

This movie failed on every single fucking level other than the suck level. It succeeded on the suck level. The writers should be shot, the director should be shot, the producers and studio execs should be shot, the actors should be shot, and the academy should take away Halles OSCAR and melt it down into bullets and shoot her with them all.

[SuperJerk 0]

Yeah Bill Duke is in this movie. When he first showed up on screen I was like "Whoa, Bill Duke is in this?" I too thought he could have been in a bit more of the movie, but I also recall when the 2nd film came out some people were whining about "Oh, they had a human villain in this one." I think X-Men fans are some of the hardest to satisfy since there are so many insane, detailed storylines and about 10,000 characters.

Good point.

[Exslade ZX 0]

Of course, if the cure is just temporary then will Mystique be back in X4?

I hope to god that they just leave it alone now. I don't get how Stan Lee could give the ok on the direction taken in this film. It was basically a slap in the face to those whom followed the comics for so long (and were hoping to get a good Pheonix story after the great job done with the second film) and looked as if it were just aimed at the casual movie fan that likes pointless violence with no real direction.

I still really don't get this arguement. See, comic book fans...have comic books. It's that simple. It's a pretty well known fact that when something (Such as a book/comic/tv show) becomes a movie, in most cases it's created purely for the mainstream audience. It of course it's going to stray away from the original source material.

 

If you just thought a horrible movie, then ok, that's fine. But there's no reason for everyone to keep saying it sucked because it wasn't like the comics, when I assume most people probaly knew from the beginning it wasn't gonna be the same

[Slayer 0]

Saw it yesterday. As a straight-up action flick it was okay, albeit it felt quite rushed. When it was over I looked at the clock and couldn't believe it had only been about 1:45 or so. As a comic book movie, the absence of any characterization struck a bad chord with me. I'd rate it as average, overall.

 

As for the whole "not staying true to the comics" spiel, I thought we'd long moved beyond this with these comic book movies, from the little things Wolverine not having his yellow outfit and spiked mask or Cyclops not having his blue+gold outfit, or even big things like Spiderman being a mutant instead of radioactive (different movie franchise I know, but same point), but apparently five years later we still have people who like to cry "THEY'RE NOT BEING 100% FAITHFUL TO THE COMICSES!!!"

[AndrewTS 0]

As for the whole "not staying true to the comics" spiel, I thought we'd long moved beyond this with these comic book movies, from the little things Wolverine not having his yellow outfit and spiked mask or Cyclops not having his blue+gold outfit, or even big things like Spiderman being a mutant instead of radioactive (different movie franchise I know, but same point), but apparently five years later we still have people who like to cry "THEY'RE NOT BEING 100% FAITHFUL TO THE COMICSES!!!"

 

That's pretty much a strawman you're setting up there In the 60's, everything was RADIOACTIVE, and RADIOACTIVITY/ATOMIC ENERGY could do anything. Literally everything from superpowers to raising the dead could be done with it. Nowadays, genetics are the big sci-fi topic (often along with big sci-fi mainstay cloning).

 

People were cool with the more subdued costumes in the earlier xmen movies. Yeah, a big gold and blue outfit--maybe it should have a target on it too.

 

The biggest gripes I've heard about the Spidey movies were that they completely exorcised Gwen Stacy from continuity, and that the series overall has less dramatic weight to it than the cgi characters jumping around the city.

 

People find the changes here less annoying than the fact that they changed them just to rush 3+ plots and cram them into one.

[cabbageboy 0]

I thought Gwen Stacy would be in one of the movies eventually, or was that just a rumor?

 

You can't put everything in a movie. When it comes down to "Who do we put in the movie, Mary Jane or Gwen Stacy?" I think it's obvious that Mary Jane would win out. There's enough of Peter Parker's personal problems in the movies as it is without adding a 2nd female lead.

 

I have one thing to ask since I've never been much beyond a casual Marvel fan. How do they reconcile the mutants in X-Men comics being feared and disliked while people cheer on the Fantastic 4 and other superheroes? It seems like a subtle difference to me, being born with super powers instead of gaining them through an accident.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

i dont think anyone expected the shiar or phoenix to be flying around blasting whole planets or anything too spacey, but i dont feel it really stuck to the spirit of the comics, being that phoenix is probably the most famous and beloved xmen story (but I will give them credit for not pussying out on the ending and just flat out having logan kill jean).

 

I think ian McKellen really saved this movie, he's just so damn good, that he even makes scenes with retarted looking leather gothy people into good scenes. I like the fact that he's been a dominant presence in all 3 movies and is being treated like it. Batman should take note when they (re)do the Joker, there's no need to get rid of your best villian after one film.

[AndrewTS 0]

Saw this on the RottenTomatoes Forums

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=485623

 

X3 Has 4 Different Endings??!!! (Spoiler Of Course) Post #1

 

As many of you now know that after the credits there would be one more suprising and pivotal scene.

 

But there is a rumor circulating that there are actually 4 different scenes. They say depending on which country youve seen it. Or sometimes you would get a different scene each showing.

 

Is this true? Could someone confirmed this.

 

Apparently here are the scenes

 

-Xavier and Mctaggert at hospital (This is the one I saw)

 

The other three would be,

 

-shaking Jean's tomb

-Red optic blast from Cyclops at Alkali

-Magneto and Mystique's reunion (Mystique handing a wallet)

 

For those who stayed after the credits what scene did you see?

 

Ive read on one forum (can't remember where) that he saw the "jean's tomb scene"

 

It seems Americans got the prof x ending, at least one poster claims to have gotten the Cyke ending, but any posters here able to confirm if they got something other than prof x?

 

Batman should take note when they (re)do the Joker, there's no need to get rid of your best villian after one film.

 

Well, Burton wasn't really a Batman fan. I doubt Joker will be killed in the next Batman movie, likely just jailed. Although the more people Joker kills, the more Batman thinks that he should finish him off the next time he has the chance.

[2GOLD 0]

If you pay attention to the scene with Jean, you realize where Scott is.

He's in the lake, so while I doubt the ending exists, I wouldn't be surprised if it did exist.

 

Xavier explained what Jean might have done when he explained how Jean survived the water rush. And again, I talked to my friend who saw it last night and she confirmed that all that happens is you see the water bubble going under while Jean says, "oh god" and then they start the "Jean, stay with me" stuff and the "Please kill me"

 

No one really died of the X-Men. And those that did can be brought back with a snap of the fingers.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

After watching about a half hour of the film again, I've realized mainly why the film didn't work: Phoenix. It's been done to death in every single X-men reincarnation, I think -- having it against a film about a Cure and people's acceptance was simply idiotic. The Phoenix storyline, to me, was nothing but fanservice. It was rushed and did not belong. Keep Jean a memory, where she would have more power (particuraly over Scott and to an extent, Logan).

 

Instead of introducing so many new characters - Callisto/Morlocks, Multiple Man, Juggernaut, Kitty, Angel, Beast - I'd keep only a few of those (Beast and Angel). Beast was used well, and Angel could've easily carried more time.

 

The Cure would still be Magneto's trigger (I enjoyed his speech of extermination) to start gathering forces, but really, he wouldn't need that many. Without Jean, without so many characters, we could focus the climactic battle on where it should've been focused: Brotherhood vs X-Men. Final showdown. I refuse to believe Toad died in X1, or for that matter, Sabertooth. Nightcrawler vs Toad would be an incredible match-up, given how both are extremely agile and acrobatic. Sabertooth vs Wolverine... 'nuff said.

 

I can actually imagine it -- after Magneto does the whole bridge-thingy, the X-Jet lands, blocking entrance to the lab. Epic battles ensue, the stakes even higher as there are still humans on the one side of the bridge.

 

Take out Jean, and that leaves more time for characters, the Cure's impact on the mutant community (only hinted at, but never really shown), and the final battle between the Brotherhood and X-Men.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Sabertooth in the first movie was terrible. I always forget how bad he was until I catch it on FX or something like that.

 

Though you're way too geeky/fanfictiony in your appraisal of the movie, you're right in that it was just too cluttered. The cure or Phoenix on their own would have been fine. As it was, you had a less-than-two-hour film with two major plotlines that didn't really intersect convincingly, and a ton of characters each getting their "moment" admist them. Very scattered stuff, with very few of the actors (McKellen and Kelsey Grammar, really, maybe Hugh Jackman) being able to keep it together throughout.

[buffybeast 0]

Sabertooth was the shit. If Marvel ever makes a Wolverine prequel, I hope the go into Wolvey/Saber relationship in depth.

[reign 0]

A long time fan of the comic I actually liked the movie but I've grown to expect that I'm not going to get a Claremont film and will settle for Hollywood's version of the X-Men...I liked the fact that they used the scene where Phoenix holds Cyclops power back but after three movies I still wonder why Cyke has been fucked so much in favor of fucking Storm...

Some observations...

1) Did anybody notice Psylocke? Her name appeared in the credits...

 

2). Why the hell can't we get some mutants using their powers instead of just sticking to a wall or flying? The baseball bat and shotgun weilding mutants was just stupid...and I know there are mutants like Cypher but c'mon

 

3) Waiting through the credits was a total letdown....

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

Though you're way too geeky/fanfictiony

Congrats on a new term. I mostly speak from a mainstream fan, hardly knowing of the other comics. What it boils down to, basically, is that everything was too damn cluttered. Too many new characters introduced (most of which didn't have a purpose) and too little screen time afforded to each. Having the battle between the characters we know about instead of introducing, like, ten new others would've made for a better film. In my opinion, of course.

[Exslade ZX 0]

1) Did anybody notice Psylocke? Her name appeared in the credits...

Yea, I believe she made an appearence in the scene where Quill killed the woman. When he told the two girls to go get the kid, she was one of them. (At least I believe so..she had purple hair.) And she appeared to walk out of the wall, but I assume giving a quick look at her powers on wikipedia, she made an 'illusion' of some sort.

 

Evidently this is her. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Psylocke-X-Men_3.jpg

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Spoilers below;;

 

Wolverine: They're ready.

Storm: I know they're ready, but are you ready?

 

Awful.

 

But hey, didja know Jean Grey was a Level 5 Mutant? Not lower than Level 3 like all those Morlocks, and not above Level 4 like Magneto, but a LEVEL 5~!! That's HYOOGE.

 

What I hated is that they killed off Xavier like it was nothing. The AOA storyline exists because Xavier died and here they mourned for 5 seconds and that was it - and even the mourning was focused more on the fucking terrible triangle between Iceman/Kitty/Rogue than the fact that Charles Xavier died. "Hey, this great guy died, let's go skating!". And they killed him off to build up the Phoenix and then had her do JACK ALL after it. Fucking christ.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

X2 is my favorite comic book movie.

 

I was looking forward to X3.

 

Shame on me.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Watching X-2 and then watching this is like a watching 4 hour advertisement for Superman Returns.

[dubq 0]

1) Did anybody notice Psylocke? Her name appeared in the credits...

Yea, I believe she made an appearence in the scene where Quill killed the woman. When he told the two girls to go get the kid, she was one of them. (At least I believe so..she had purple hair.) And she appeared to walk out of the wall, but I assume giving a quick look at her powers on wikipedia, she made an 'illusion' of some sort.

 

Evidently this is her. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Psylocke-X-Men_3.jpg

 

Well, at least she was hot.

[Failed Bridge 0]

I swear I remember Psylocke being a cyborg or some shit from some X-Men comic. Don't believe it was Uncanny but another series.

[gWIL 0]

Went and saw it with a friend of mine and we both thought it was easily the best of the 3. "Oh my god, it's not the same as the comic books!!!!11" If you want the comics, then read the comics. There wasn't a dull moment in the movie, it went together neatly and was fun. What more do you want from a summer popcorn flick?