X-Men 3

[AndrewTS 0]

Sorry if this has already been addressed or is a dumb question, but why couldn't Wolverine just stab Jean with the cure instead of killing her?

 

It would have been impossible to sneak up on her because of her psychic abilities, and even if Wolvie hid it behind his back or something, her power would have shattered the needle/vial. He could only get that close because of his healing factor, and had about a second or so at that where he had the chance to attack her.

 

Even assuming he somehow got that close to her with it and it wasn't destroyed, she could have blocked it with a psychic barrier, and turned it on him. Everyone would have been screwed then.

[Special K 0]

I can't believe anyone thought a Phoenix Force from outer space was going to come down and possess Jean. Or that Juggernaut would have gotten his powers from the magical gem of cyttorak or whatever.

 

Guess what? I really doubt Spidey's going to go on a Secret War and find the symbiote on an alien planet. And he probably won't beat Sandman with a fucking vacuum cleaner. Prepare to be disappointed.

 

I always thought one of the most badass fights would be Rogue versus Juggernaut. I can't remember Colossus doing anything in the movie besides the two fastball specials and carrying a TV because he is teh storng.

[AndrewTS 0]

I always thought one of the most badass fights would be Rogue versus Juggernaut. I can't remember Colossus doing anything in the movie besides the two fastball specials and carrying a TV because he is teh storng.

 

Well, even if Rogue wasn't off getting cured, she doesn't have superstrength/flight/invulnerability in the movies.

 

Colossus not getting to whoop some ass was severely disappointing, especially since friggin' Kitty went after Juggs.

 

I guess then we wouldn't have gotten "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!" though.

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

Yeah, my friend and I both thought that there should have been some sort of Juggernaut/Colossus confrontation. Or even just more from Colossus. Somewhat disappointing, but they did have quite a bit going on.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

Colossus was wasted, but I marked for the Kitty Pryde/Juggernaut chase.

[razazteca 0]

Is Vinnie Jones normally roided up like that?

[AndrewTS 0]

Is Vinnie Jones normally roided up like that?

 

I'm not sure as far as definition, but he's always been pretty massive. He was that huge guy in Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels, which was his acting debut. He does *seem* a hell of a lot larger, though.

[Brett Favre 0]

Sorry if this has already been addressed or is a dumb question, but why couldn't Wolverine just stab Jean with the cure instead of killing her?

 

Beast wasted all of them on Magneto.

[AndrewTS 0]

Sorry if this has already been addressed or is a dumb question, but why couldn't Wolverine just stab Jean with the cure instead of killing her?

 

Beast wasted all of them on Magneto.

 

There were dozens of cure guns with probably around 6 shots in each. ArcLight just broke the guns apart, and didn't obliterate the cure vials. They could have found more.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

Sorry if this has already been addressed or is a dumb question, but why couldn't Wolverine just stab Jean with the cure instead of killing her?

 

Beast wasted all of them on Magneto.

 

There were dozens of cure guns with probably around 6 shots in each. ArcLight just broke the guns apart, and didn't obliterate the cure vials. They could have found more.

Then Phoenix could've used whatever vials Wolverine was carrying on him -- and he would be fucked like nothing else. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but, isn't his mutant ability just the healing factor? Or at least it seems that way in movie-verse. Take that away and he'd be dead in no time flat.

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

I'd always understood that his healing was his mutant ability. That allowed him to get the adamantium skeletal implants, since most would die during the process. He also regenerates cells so quickly that it let him age much slower than usual I believe (never read any of the comics but Prof. X made reference to it in the first movie).

[dubq 0]

^^^ Correct - though the claws may also have something to do with his mutant abilities. I remember one issue where Magneto literally ripped the adamantium from his bones, but he still had claws (bone ones) afterwards.

[pochorenella 0]

It was revealed in the comics that his mutation also included the claws on each hand along with his healing factor and heightened, animalistic senses. Later the Weapon X program grafted the adamantium to his skeleton and claws. Yes, his healing factor was the one thing that allowed that process to be successful.

[AndrewTS 0]

Then Phoenix could've used whatever vials Wolverine was carrying on him -- and he would be fucked like nothing else.

 

Yes, as I mentioned previously.

 

Now, correct me if I'm wrong but, isn't his mutant ability just the healing factor? Or at least it seems that way in movie-verse. Take that away and he'd be dead in no time flat.

 

Answered already by later posters, but yeah. Wolvie also has heightened senses, such as hearing and smell. Also, I think currently the bone claws can and should be considered as part of Wolvie's base mutant abilities. X-23 (created from Wolvie's DNA in an attempt to reproduce the Weapon X project) also had claws made of bone, which were later treated with adamantium.

[Exslade ZX 0]

Is Vinnie Jones normally roided up like that?

I'm pretty sure he had on some kind of body suit, ,and some of that painting that like, makes the muscles show up more. He's definitely not that big. I don't know if anyone has forearms that huge, even bodybuilders :/.

 

Vinnie Jones -

 

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[10 Pounds 0]

*I'm not using spoiler tags since most members who come in this thread have already seen the movie*

 

 

I thought the movie was good. It could have been longer to expand more characters instead of making more place for Storm. Where was Nightcrawler and Gambit ? Why were Colossus and Angel merely cameos ?

 

I haven't read the spoilers nor have read many of the comic books ( my X-Men geekness mostly consist of watching the old cartoon ), so I couldn't care less if the Jean/Pheonix stuff is faithful to the comics or not. I was sure something was going to happen to the Professor when he and Storm had that talk at the beginning of the film about him being dead. Still, the way he died and the lost of Mystique's powers came off both as surprises to me. Cyclops' death would suck, but he was so under-developped in the movies that it doesn't really matter. I was sure that, at the end, Magneto would lay down his king in defeat, so I marked out big time when he made his piece move.

 

As for the scene after the credits, I didn't see it. I just hope that X4 doesn't pussy out and resurrects all of the dead characters.

[LJSexay 0]

I friggin enjoyed it.

 

I mean... the concept, WAR, was the focus of the film and they did it well. With any movie that has chaos and OMG FIGHT CHAOS as the big climax, and I do mean almost ANY movie, then yeah.. sadly, character and story development take a huge backseat. It upset me, but because I'm a sucker for the latter two!

 

With all that said, I appreciate what the movie went out to do. Yea, I was pissed as all hell that:

 

a. it went by FAST

b. Cyclops and Xavier just.. die

c. some things were never given time to be explained (see a)

 

but you know what.. this was a time of panic, and chaos, and because of that, this movie did a good job of portraying exactly that. Props for the endings too. The Magneto ending and Xavier surprise definitely made me feel better about the deaths and results of the film.

 

Good movie. Each one was quite different from the others in the series.. but damn, I wish this one was given more time.

[SuperJerk 0]

My verdict: This isn't the movie I would have made, but it wasn't bad.

 

Sure, the X-Men movies don't follow the comics, but it does a better job than the Ultimate X-Men comic (you know...the Marvel comic book where almost everyone's a teenager except Wolverine, who tried to murder teenage Cyclops so he could sleep with underage Jean Grey, where Beast and Storm were dating, where Nightcrawler and Rogue were in Weapon X, and where Collosus is a homosexual).

 

I'd like to see more X-Men movies. There's more than enough other X-Men characters to make up for no Scott or Jean. Storm, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Collosus, Kitty Pryde, and Rogue were the bulk of the X-Men team during the 80s, after all.

[dubq 0]

I don't think the main beef is that it's unlike the comics - it's just that it's an all around crappy movie. I've come to expect more from this franchise, and this movie was total shite.

[Special K 0]

I think it'll play much more poorly on video. It was fun for the gee-golly special FX, but it really did turn out to be a clusterfuck, as most people feared.

 

And I can't believe they built a 2500-foot replica of the GG bridge for that silly, silly, scene.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Why didn't Magneto just transport his entire crew over on a huge piece of metal? Surely that wouldn't be less strenuous on his powers and also would've prevented anybody else (Military, etc) from crossing the bridge.

[Guest NYankees]

Didn't they show Nightcrawler as a cameo climbing the roof of the church or whatever when Magneto meets the asian guy and the two chicks??

[Aero 0]

Finally saw it today. I thought it was merely ok, nowhere near as good as X2, but just below the first. Not reading the early spoilers circulating around the net months ago, Xavier's death was shocking, as was Cyclops's. Magneto carried the movie.

 

My biggest gripe would be that Cyclops was featured for probably less than 5 mins. And I thought he got screwed with screentime in X2...

 

I'll just add that Storm sucks.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

This really shoulda been two movies.

 

One movie about the Phoenix, where they can actually introduce Kitty Pryde and Colossus and Beast (and others) as characters instead of them just suddently being on the X-Men for some reason, and then one about the Cure, where the actions of the Phoenix has caused many to feel even more strongly against mutants.

 

It really, really bugged me that for like, half this movie, Storm and Wolverine were the only X-Men. WTF was that?

[SuperJerk 0]

I don't think the main beef is that it's unlike the comics - it's just that it's an all around crappy movie.

 

Except it wasn't that bad, and the vast majority of the criticism I've heard (throughout the internet and especially on this thread) that was either that it didn't follow the comics or someone's favorite character wasn't used.

 

Like I said, it might not have been the movie I would have made, but that doesn't make it bad.

[David Blazenwing 0]

I just got back from it and I thought it was an awesome movie. I disagree wholeheartedly with the original post.

[Special K 0]

Like I said, it might not have been the movie I would have made, but that doesn't make it bad.

 

I think I'll have to see it again to judge it objectively.

 

Damn, but did they do beast well, rhough, goood showon that front. Personality, Powe4rs, et al.

 

 

And juggernaut bitch or no, that race, with Kittyt phasing and Juggernaut runng through everything, was very cool.

[art_vandelay 0]

Not that I'm complaining but wasn't Jessica Simpson comfirmed to play Dazzler for the movie?

[dubq 0]

I don't think the main beef is that it's unlike the comics - it's just that it's an all around crappy movie.

 

Except it wasn't that bad, and the vast majority of the criticism I've heard (throughout the internet and especially on this thread) that was either that it didn't follow the comics or someone's favorite character wasn't used.

 

Like I said, it might not have been the movie I would have made, but that doesn't make it bad.

 

- The special effects were inconsistent. Ie: shit-tacular.

- The script-writing was horrible, which of course leads to some really bad acting.

- The fight scenes that had little to no excitement or climax to them. Iceman vs Pyro should've been way more than a fucking headbutt.

- Don't even get me started on the plot, and the fact that they base it off of one of the worst story arcs ever from the comic books.

 

Ratner is a hack, and this movie proves it. If I were faced with watching either this or Daredevil for eternity, I'd pick DD every time (and I hated that, too).

[AndrewTS 0]

Not that I'm complaining but wasn't Jessica Simpson comfirmed to play Dazzler for the movie?

 

Never confirmed, but at that time JS was rumored to be in everything.