State Your Unpopular Opinions

[Hawk 34 0]

I hate Dave Meltzer after reading his tribute to Eddy. I don't know but him writting that Eddy went to a doctor and the doctor said Eddy had the back of a 60 - 70 year old bothered me. I wondered how long Meltzer was holding on to this info. Dave probably knows everything about every wrestler.

 

I'm sure the only way Dave could have found that out would be if Eddie or one of his close friends had told him.

 

Wrestlers are very open with Meltzer. Vince, from time to time speaks to Meltzer for all sorts of reasons.

[Guest wildpegasus]

I hate Dave Meltzer after reading his tribute to Eddy. I don't know but him writting that Eddy went to a doctor and the doctor said Eddy had the back of a 60 - 70 year old bothered me. I wondered how long Meltzer was holding on to this info. Dave probably knows everything about every wrestler.

 

I'm sure the only way Dave could have found that out would be if Eddie or one of his close friends had told him.

 

Wrestlers are very open with Meltzer. Vince, from time to time speaks to Meltzer for all sorts of reasons.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong on this because I'm just going by memory by something I read.

 

It's true that Meltzer and Vince talk together some. In fact, around the time right before the invasion started Vince knew the product was suffering some and called up DA Meltz to ask him what he should do. Meltzer ended it by saying that "WCW had to win". Vince hung up after that and there wasn't a lot of talk since than between the two if any at all.

 

Again, anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.

[Hawk 34 0]

I hate Dave Meltzer after reading his tribute to Eddy. I don't know but him writting that Eddy went to a doctor and the doctor said Eddy had the back of a 60 - 70 year old bothered me. I wondered how long Meltzer was holding on to this info. Dave probably knows everything about every wrestler.

 

I'm sure the only way Dave could have found that out would be if Eddie or one of his close friends had told him.

 

Wrestlers are very open with Meltzer. Vince, from time to time speaks to Meltzer for all sorts of reasons.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong on this because I'm just going by memory by something I read.

 

It's true that Meltzer and Vince talk together some. In fact, around the time right before the invasion started Vince knew the product was suffering some and called up DA Meltz to ask him what he should do. Meltzer ended it by saying that "WCW had to win". Vince hung up after that and there wasn't a lot of talk since than between the two if any at all.

 

Again, anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Meltzer's side has it that he gave McMahon a "golden" idea and McMahon did the complete opposite but Meltzer won't give away what that idea was in hopes Vince uses it.

 

Meltzer has a long list of things he "won't reveal until it's appros". Most famously is the "Who came up with the finish for Montreal?", something Meltzer insists will be a secret until that person dies.

[TheBostonStrangler 0]

A few opinions:

 

- Chris Jericho's matches in the WWE were among the worst on the roster. The guy didn't have a single move in his arsenal that looked like it could possibly hurt someone. And his reformed version of the Walls of Jericho was among the worst finishers in the WWE. I don't miss him in the slightest. I didn't like his stuff at all.

 

- Spotfests are the most entertaining kinds of matches. I like psychology, but I'll take 20 minutes of little guys playing "Can you top this?" over that anyday.

 

- HHH is the best thing going in the WWE.

[Epic Reine 0]

Chris Benoit's last good match happened in 2001.

[Guest Timmer]

Easy concept for this thread. If you have an opinion that most fans wouldn't agree with, post them.

 

Heres mine:

 

-Ted Dibiase for GM. Fuck JBL, Candice, Shane, Steph, and even Dusty. He would probably get it though considering he has merchandise coming out.

 

Although I agree that I wouldn't want the ones listed as GM, I also wouldn't care for DiBiase either. thought he was kinda bland...

 

-Kurt Angle is overrated

Overrated compared to what? The greatest of all time...no but he is a total package of pure wrestling, brawling, and mic skills. He has it all. Shame that he has had the injury bug for the last couple of years.

 

-WWF>> ECW,WCW,WWE, TNA,

All depends on what you like...

 

-Joey Styles is underrated

I agree since personally I prefer the play by play over the story telling...

 

-There hasnt been a good tag team division since the early 1990's

Hard to argue that one.

 

-95% of the IWC will jump back on Cena's bandwaggon when he turns heel.

He doesn't even have to turn heel...just don't try so hard to put him over.

 

-Randy Orton shouldn't return, he adds nothing to the show

I agree, I never saw what the big deal was about this guy

 

-Vince McMahon shouldn't have an on-air persona.

 

It was fine when it was in moderation but it seems as if he feels like his presense can fix anything.

 

- The Dynamite Kid WAS NOT that great.

I would be interested in hearing you elaborate on this. Have you seen his earliar matches?

 

-Rey Mysterio DESERVES THE TITLE

WHY? Because his friend died and there was no one else to give it to? Because he is popular with the Latinos?

 

-Mic Skills doesn't make a champion

Maybe maybe not but it certainly seems to be a pretty big factor for the last 15 years...

 

-Paul Heyman> Vince

No argument here especially the the current version of Vince.

 

-wrestling is the reason I watch, not mic skills

Everyone has their own reasons.

 

- Bret Hart screwed Bret Hart.

No argument here.

 

- The Raven/Tommy Dreamer and Tommy Dreamer/Sandman and Taz/Sabu feuds were three of top 10 greatest angles of all-time.

I'll give you Raven/Dreamer but that's it. I would put over Raven/Sandman over Dreamer/Sandman.

 

-Eric Bischoff is an excellent promoter and should be used by the WWE for creative input.

Eric is a very lucky guy who was in the right place at the right time.

 

-Booker T should get a title run

Booker should have gotton a title run 5 years ago...

 

-Venis, Simon Dean, Regal, Richards, Psicosis are all horribly misused and wasted talent

Venis, Regal...yes

Richards is always hurt but you notice how they always keep him around.

 

Add yours

 

 

I think the Raven character is highly underated that is until he came to TNA and then blew up looking like an older version of Miley Whipwreck.

 

Alex Shelley and Roderick Strong - very underated and misused by TNA.

 

As much as I had hoped that TNA would someday become competetion to WWE, it's not happening any time soon.

[Guest Timmer]

Umaga is shit and has no heat, but people here like him

FUCK UMANGA! The real star is Amando Alejandro Estrada who should be managing a stable of latino wrestlers. I would rather see AAE managing Super Crazy, Chavo, Carlito in ECW instead of wasting time with 90 second warning.

 

 

Why because he rolls his tongue while saying his name and sounds like a bad Cuban version of Ric Flair?

[foleyfanforever88 0]

What I agree with:

 

Easy concept for this thread. If you have an opinion that most fans wouldn't agree with, post them.

 

Heres mine:

 

-Vince McMahon shouldn't have an on-air persona.

-Mic Skills doesn't make a champion

-Paul Heyman> Vince

-Booker T should get a title run

-Venis, Simon Dean, Regal, Richards, Psicosis are all horribly misused and wasted talent

 

Add yours

 

Here's mine:

 

-Kane should be pushed.

-A-Train should be rehired and placed on the Smackdown brand with fellow monster heels Kahli and Henry.

-Smackdown should become a live show.

 

 

Umaga is shit and has no heat, but people here like him

FUCK UMANGA! The real star is Amando Alejandro Estrada who should be managing a stable of latino wrestlers. I would rather see AAE managing Super Crazy, Chavo, Carlito in ECW instead of wasting time with 90 second warning.

 

 

Kane's "wedding" with Lita was awesome

 

 

Taker/Jeff Hardy ladder match was good.

 

 

Alright, random opinions without backing anything up. I can't help but join in myself.

 

-JBL is the most entertaining wrestler on the roster, and deserves another long title reign when he comes back.

-Except for a couple of brief periods during Chris Benoit's & Batista's world title pushes, Smackdown has been consistantly better than RAW ever since the brand split.

-Kane has been the most misused wrestler in history as far as crappy booking goes.

-Undertaker is a better wrestler now than he has been for most of career.

-Despite what WWE says, the World Title is their own creation, not a continuation of the WCW World Title. Same thing with the US Championship.

-The biggest match the company has available to them right now is Undertaker vs. Batista, preferably at Wrestlemania.

[Aero 0]

Chris Benoit's last good match happened in 2001.

 

Which was?

[razazteca 0]

Umaga is shit and has no heat, but people here like him

FUCK UMANGA! The real star is Amando Alejandro Estrada who should be managing a stable of latino wrestlers. I would rather see AAE managing Super Crazy, Chavo, Carlito in ECW instead of wasting time with 90 second warning.

 

 

Why because he rolls his tongue while saying his name and sounds like a bad Cuban version of Ric Flair?

It's one of the few things on RAW that amuses me. May its the RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR or the HAHA pause the man is funny and he is active during the whole match whether it be him overreacting to the UMANGA strikes, the constant yelling, or the setup to the taped up thumb of death finish the man has some talent.

[Epic Reine 0]

Chris Benoit's last good match happened in 2001.

 

Which was?

 

Either the Raw tag where HHH tore his quad or his match against Regal at the Brian Pillman memorial.

[Guest wildpegasus]

Chris Benoit's last good match happened in 2001.

 

Which was?

 

Either the Raw tag where HHH tore his quad or his match against Regal at the Brian Pillman memorial.

 

 

Regal match was in 2000

 

 

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[JustJoe2k5 0]

Chris Benoit's last good match happened in 2001.

 

Which was?

 

Either the Raw tag where HHH tore his quad or his match against Regal at the Brian Pillman memorial.

 

His cage match against Kurt Angle on RAW was really good.

[Guest wildpegasus]

I hate Dave Meltzer after reading his tribute to Eddy. I don't know but him writting that Eddy went to a doctor and the doctor said Eddy had the back of a 60 - 70 year old bothered me. I wondered how long Meltzer was holding on to this info. Dave probably knows everything about every wrestler.

 

I'm sure the only way Dave could have found that out would be if Eddie or one of his close friends had told him.

 

Wrestlers are very open with Meltzer. Vince, from time to time speaks to Meltzer for all sorts of reasons.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong on this because I'm just going by memory by something I read.

 

It's true that Meltzer and Vince talk together some. In fact, around the time right before the invasion started Vince knew the product was suffering some and called up DA Meltz to ask him what he should do. Meltzer ended it by saying that "WCW had to win". Vince hung up after that and there wasn't a lot of talk since than between the two if any at all.

 

Again, anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Meltzer's side has it that he gave McMahon a "golden" idea and McMahon did the complete opposite but Meltzer won't give away what that idea was in hopes Vince uses it.

 

Meltzer has a long list of things he "won't reveal until it's appros". Most famously is the "Who came up with the finish for Montreal?", something Meltzer insists will be a secret until that person dies.

 

Yes, that's true.

 

My story's accurate as well. Well, according to Meltz and my memory.

[humongous2002 0]

The Regal/Benoit match took place in 2000 and here are my onpopular opinions:

-Vince should've let RVD carry WWE back in 2002 instead of choosing Lesnar.

-Rey and Benoit didn't deserve to win the WWE/WHWT at Wrestlemania(maybe at a small monthly p.p.v. or an episode of Raw/SD)

-Orton is an untalented and useless excuse of a wrestler.

-Brock Lesnar is overrated.

-JBL is a midcarder for life and never deserved to win the WWE title.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Chris Benoit's last good match happened in 2001.

 

Angle/Benoit from Royal Rumble 03 say "Fuck that".

[razazteca 0]

Regal should of been in JBL's spot

[Masked Man of Mystery 0]

Okay, here we go...

Early on, I resented JBL winning the title from Eddie, but nowadays, he has become a very good character and well...he's literally morphing into a bigger Stan Hansen after ripping him off all these years

the Hardy Boys should have never been broken up, I think Matt helped keep Jeff stable.

WWE should try to get Alber/Bernard back and use him in Mark Henry's role as Davari's enforcer

speaking of Henry, he reminds me of Andre the Giant in his later years, except that Andre had a good reason to be lazy, he was sick

Ted DiBiase should have some kind of on air role, if only as a manager

WWE should look into having Bobby Heenan return in some form as well, he's still got it, and while he doesn't sound the same, he can still talk

Moolah and Mae Young should never ever show up on WWE programming except at Hall of Fame and such. Actually, they should go and do an extensive interview and such with the two of them before they die, but they should bnever be back in the ring or anything

Kane deserves a World title run

Mick Foley needs to decide if he will be a full time wrestler or retired, he can't just keep coming back like this. If he needs the limited schedule like Taker, that's one thing

Speaking of Taker, have him remain undefeated, and keep him away from the title, but he can still work in limited capacity

Khali should not be in the company if he cannot safely execute his own finisher, and I don't mean his karate chop.

Speaking of the martial arts, another true martial artist character would be cool, a Bruce Lee type as opposed to Tajiri, although I like him too

Anyone who does not serve a purpose as a wrestler, manager, orauthority should be cut

Women who wrestle should be able to wrestle a competant match, like the guys, and Torrie Wilson simply does not cut it. If she can't be a manager, send her on her way

WWE badly needs to re establish their tag division, if on;y as a way to get younger wrestlers a start, espcially if they insist on calling up wrestlers early. Chris Masters wouldn't be nearly as offensive to people, I think, if he had debuted in a tag team.

John Cena needs to tweak his gimmick. He coems off as a total poser, unlike someone like Ron Killings if one were to compare two wrestlers with a hip hop gimmick. He makes me think of the worst of Clear Channel endorsed rap, like 50 Cent, so perhaps this is where Million Dollar Man is used, to buy Cena and make him the new Million Dollar Champion.

Randy Orton, Triple H, and Jeff Jarrett are not necessarily bad wrestlers, but HHH and JJ are over exposed and Orton suffers from very strange booking.

That's all that comes to mind for now

[jester 0]

Some of Mick Foley's opinions on wrestling aren't insightful, but tragically deluded.

 

Hurricane's superhero gimmick was awesome.

 

In the glory days of Hogan and Savage, HHH probably would not have gone beyond Intercontinental belt level heel, and not because of politics.

 

Women's wrestling could get over, and have sex appeal if they booked it right.

 

The problem with Randy Orton has more to do with WWE's backwards star-building system than Orton himself.

 

Hulk Hogan has always sucked donkey balls.

[Masked Man of Mystery 0]

Regal should of been in JBL's spot

See, I love Regal and everything, but really, his style only works with a very few people, like Benoit, and I think that's part of why it took a long time for me to like him,m he was doing the stupid brass knucks thing and his style just doesn't mesh with most

[AmazingRen 0]

-Trish Startus hasn't been entertaining since 2000 and also was better to look at

 

-Goofy Kurt Angle was more entertaining than intense Kurt Angle

 

-Kane should've held the title longer than a day

 

-Besides his WrestleMania match against HBK Jericho has never a good match in the WWE.

[10 Pounds 0]

- Carlito sucks ass. He's been doing new moves since he turned face, which is a plus, but I don't see anything cool or funny with his gimmick. He spits apples...and ? What has he done since his face turn beside unfunny skits ?

 

- The reason they're pushing Kenny ahead of Jeter is because he can lean back his leg during a top-rope legdrop.

 

- 1996-97 Austin was his peak. He became just another ordinary face to me after Bret left. Vince McMahon was the best performer of the two in their feud until he went insane. Vince McMahon trying to pacifically reason with Austin was so much better than the over-the-top Vince who did the Greater Power and all that stuff.

 

- I don't know why people cheer Hogan nowadays when he's doing the same shit he did 20 years ago.

 

- I don't know why people love Dusty Rhodes so much. I don't buy his "common man" gimmick at all, I don't understand half of his promos and spinning your forearms before doing an elbow doesn't impress me. Part of my dislike for him comes from the asshole who's always yelling "Whoo ! Dusty Rhoooodes ! Dusty Rhodes ! Dusty Rhoooodes ! Whooohoo ! Dusty Rhoooodes !" on the Ric Flair DVD.

 

- I hate Jim Ross being the best friend of Austin and the "one who every fan must loves".

 

- I actually liked the Ahmed Johnson/Faarooq/Nation of Domination stuff. I also liked Sycho Sid.

 

- I also mark for the Masterlock.

 

- Aside form his cool suits, I don't see anything different with Batista than any other hoss main-eventer.

 

- I have accepted the fact that HHH will never go away and will be treated as the greatest wrestler of all-time when he's done. Deal with it.

[Smartly Pretty 0]

-There's nothing wrong with the WWE style

-ECW wasn't good.

[razazteca 0]

Regal should of been in JBL's spot

See, I love Regal and everything, but really, his style only works with a very few people, like Benoit, and I think that's part of why it took a long time for me to like him,m he was doing the stupid brass knucks thing and his style just doesn't mesh with most

I was watching some old WCW tapes and was amazed how fucking great Regal was at Great American Bash 1996 against Sting and at Fall Brawl 1994 against Johnny B Badd. Regal is one of the greatest heels in the business that can't get a major push at the top. I can't believe WWE gave the belt to all of the rookies overlooking the greatness that is the Blueblood Lord Steven Regal!

[World's Worst Man 0]

Half of you talk about Japanese wrestling and ***** but only 1/25 probably have seen any Japanese matches.

 

I don't know how many people actually talk about Japanese wrestling without having seen any. I'd say it's more a case of people spouting off about "best this and best that" despite not having even seen the really high end stuff in the world of wrestling. But people definitely do like to throw *'s around despite not being able to adequately support their opinions.

 

************** (stars) are overrated. People talk about them like they are factual or carry any meaning.

 

It's more down to people who don't understand that * ratings aren't some mathematical equation. They're just another and more precise way to call a match good, bad, average, etc, which comes down to the person's own tastes.

[AndrewTS 0]

Some of Mick Foley's opinions on wrestling aren't insightful, but tragically deluded.

 

Hurricane's superhero gimmick was awesome.

 

In the glory days of Hogan and Savage, HHH probably would not have gone beyond Intercontinental belt level heel, and not because of politics.

 

Women's wrestling could get over, and have sex appeal if they booked it right.

 

The problem with Randy Orton has more to do with WWE's backwards star-building system than Orton himself.

 

Hulk Hogan has always sucked donkey balls.

 

*agrees with all of the above....okay, except for Orton.*

[Just John 0]

Christian is/was a very overrated and boring singles wrestler

 

Edge and Randy Orton are underrated as wrestlers

 

JBL is not the best heel in the company and never was

 

Rey Mysterio deserved a world title run, though it was poorly booked

 

Though it's not WWE-related, I would like to say Misawa/Kobashi 1/20/97 was quite disappointing to me.

[haws bah gawd 0]

- Sid is the most underrated big man of all time. He could cut a decent promo, threw awesome sledgehammer punches (smashed his fist on top of your head, or into your face), and had one of the sickest powerbombs in history.

 

- JBL is an attrocious wrestler with shitty mic skills and deserves to be nowhere near the main event. During his APA days and his horrid face run of early Spring 2002 you all would've agreed. You all wanted him crucified for his nazi actions in Germany in 2004, cried foul when he beat Eddie for the gold, then all of a sudden, everyone jumped on the JBL ES T3H ROXXORZ bandwagon. Fuck JBL.

 

- Bret Hart was NOT as good as he is built up to be.

 

- Undertaker vs Jeff Hardy in the ladder match for the Undisputed title was one of the finest 'emotional' performances of either man's career.

 

- The Great Khali should not only NEVER EVER lose under any circumstances, but get a respectable world title run.

 

- Mickey James vs Trish at Wrestlemania 22 SUCKED. Lita vs Trish from late 2004 on RAW is one of the top 3 greatest WWE/F Women's matches of all time.

 

- Undertaker's undefeated Wrestlemania streak should come to an end in one of two ways:

A clean, decisive job to Kane

TAPPING THE FUCK OUT to the Crippler Crossface

 

- I agree with whoever said it first in regards to 95% of the IWC magically becoming John Cena fans again as soon as he turns heel.

 

- Fuck Carlito. He and his fro have replaced Christian as WWE's resident master of the rear chinlock.

[Guest Brian]

The next time a wrestler dies due to the business, everyone will "care" for all of three month and then go back to supporting the very business that led to said death as if nothing happened.

[Guest]

It wouldn't be the first time.