2006 NBA Finals

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Avery Johnson is that nigga.

[Black Lushus 0]

Mark Cuban > pretty much every owner in sports, though.

 

I agree he's one of the better owners out there, from the business standpoint...he just also happens to be one of the most annoying human beings on the planet.

[Maztinho 0]

Mark Cuban > pretty much every owner in sports, though.

 

I agree he's one of the better owners out there, from the business standpoint...he just also happens to be one of the most annoying human beings on the planet.

 

Yeah, but you don't have to sit through Larry Miller on your TV every other week during the season for a half-hour talking about shit.

[Ripper 0]

I agree with Kingofthe909 in that Zo doesn't deverse shit for what he did to Toronto. But at the same time it would be nice to see Gary Payton get a ring.

 

Didn't Payton no-show the Hawks, thereby ripping them off in a trade with Boston similar to what Zo did with the Raptors?

 

Yeah but who cares about the Hawks!

 

Gary Payton's career >>>>>>>>>> The Hawks franchise

 

 

First, fuck ya, and second, Gary was never supposed to show up to Atlanta. The trade was agreed upon with the conditions that Gary would be waived immediately after the trade and then he promptly resigned with Boston.

[alfdogg 0]

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[Guest Vitamin X]

Mark Cuban > pretty much every owner in sports, though.

 

I agree he's one of the better owners out there, from the business standpoint...he just also happens to be one of the most annoying human beings on the planet.

 

Please explain to me what makes him so annoying. So he's rich and loves the team that he's helped build over the years to propel them to the top of the league. I got all respect in the world for that, just like Jerry Jones with the Cowboys, as much as I dislike the franchise, I have a ton of respect and don't find it annoying at all, he's protecting his investment and making it work.

 

An owner like Dan Snyder on the other hand...

[Black Lushus 0]

his antics when the camera is on him, dude...what did you think I was talking about? He's a fan of the sport, which is cool, more owners need to be fans of their sport, but he reminds me of every annoying fan I see when i go to sporting events. What does protecting his investment have to do with being annoying as shit?

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

In all honesty I rather an owner be an annoying fan (that knows what he's doing- this is key) than a corporate suit who is more interested in lining his own pockets with the profits from the team.

[naiwf 0]

This doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the Finals per se, but I think Josh Howard (just turned 26) will turn out to be Dirk's (28 in 2 weeks) Scottie Pippen, and if they win the title this year they might have a nice little run, provided they re-up Terry (29 in Sept.), for another couple of years.

 

San Antonio's getting older, the Pistons are pretty close to imploding, Shaq's got this year and maybe one more left and the Suns will probably get worse with Amare changing up their style. No other team really seems like they'll make that quantum leap from mid level playoff squad to contender next year.

[Just John 0]

Quite a few teams are one KG or AI away from being championship contenders. If the Clippers make the Garnett trade I proposed for them in some other thread, they are contenders. Amare is not going to hurt the Suns. They might tweak their style, but they'll still be very good.

[Brett Favre 0]

Amare should get the Suns those rebounds they need, and limit opponent 2nd chance points.

[Ripper 0]

I still say the championship is the Suns to lose next year. I would like to see it explained how the guy that averaged 25+ points and had a, what some people thought, was a MVP year in this EXACT same system two years ago is supposed to fuck it up when he comes back.

[Guest]

Have to wait for the offseason to decide on that. If Amare comes back healthy with no drastic player movement around the league, they have a clear advantage.

[Guest Felonies!]

his antics when the camera is on him, dude...what did you think I was talking about? He's a fan of the sport, which is cool, more owners need to be fans of their sport, but he reminds me of every annoying fan I see when i go to sporting events. What does protecting his investment have to do with being annoying as shit?

He's promoting himself and the Mavericks. Duh.

 

Do you get mad when people don't "play baseball the right way" too?

[iggymcfly 0]

Cuban's tight. Back before I decided to be a professional poker player, he was my role model for life. I mean really, if you had billions of dollars what would you rather do than take control of your favorite sports team and make them into a champion?

[naiwf 0]

I still say the championship is the Suns to lose next year. I would like to see it explained how the guy that averaged 25+ points and had a, what some people thought, was a MVP year in this EXACT same system two years ago is supposed to fuck it up when he comes back.

 

You didn't win the title with him last year before he got his knee cut. Amare doesn't play "D". He'll cut into the minutes of either Barbosa, Bell or Diaw who all present greater match up problems. He takes a lot of shots, and not in the same flow as this year's team played. Nash will be a year older and his back could give at any point. You've got one last shot at winning the title but I still don't think you'll beat Dallas or San Antonio next year and you'll have to go through at least one when they reshuffle the playoff seeding.

[godthedog 0]

the suns were basically a 3 1/2-man team in the playoffs last year. they may have had only 6 good pieces this year, but they were damn good pieces. except for jones & house, everybody stepped up and had at least one monster game when one was needed. what they lacked this year more than anything else was a guy they could rely on to have a big game every night; for every hot night bell/diaw/thomas/barbosa/marion had, he'd have 2 or 3 off nights. even nash had long stretches where he couldn't do much. amare doesn't have to control the flow of the offense, he just has to be there to put a solid 20+ in every night and ease the pressure, just be enough of a threat to make sure the supporting players get the open looks when the "take a 3-point shot every 4 seconds" style isn't working. if d'antoni can get him to play smart, it'll be almost impossible to stop a diaw/stoudemire/marion front court.

 

nash i think will probably hold up for another 2 years at this pace. the championship won't be theirs to lose, but they'll be more dangerous than they've been in a very long time.

[iggymcfly 0]

Phoenix is going to improve a lot next year with Amare, but the thing is that the rest of the West is improving too. The Clippers, Lakers, and Mavericks are all extremely young teams that are only going to get better in the future.

 

I think next year, with Howard, Harris, and Daniels maturing, the team to beat in the West will once again be Dallas.

[chaosrage 0]

Why are people acting like Nash is old? He's 32. 28-32 is prime.

[iggymcfly 0]

Nash has spine trouble that limits his minutes. That makes him a question mark to perform at the same level next year. Obviously, his last two years were "prime" since he went from above average point guard to league MVP, but it's understandable for people to think he might dip a little bit next season.

 

Anyway, on to more important things, Game 1 of the Finals tonight! Even though the matchup looks pretty even, I've got $1000 on Dallas for the series and $500 on them for the game tonight, because I've got to support my team, and because I really think the Western Conference was tougher this year and that Dallas is more battle-tested. The Mavs watch up well with Miami too (as the regular season meetings show) and home advantage should help, and I say the Mavs get it done tonight 101-93. Other predictions?

[alfdogg 0]

Why are people acting like Nash is old? He's 32. 28-32 is prime.

Yeah, the decline starts in 07-08. Do you accept this?

[Brett Favre 0]

Steve Nash is in better shape than he's ever been in his career though. The main reason for like 34 or so minutes a game on the court is because they run on like every possession.

[chaosrage 0]

He'll still be closer to prime next year than Diaw, Barbosa, and Amare.

 

By the way, guess what channel is the only channel that doesn't come out clear on my TV? ABC. Yet, the channel works fine on my other TV in the house.

 

Anyone know what could possibly cause one channel to be messed up on one television?

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Jason Kidd in his prime >>>> Steve Nash in his prime

[Brett Favre 0]

And that has to do with..what?

 

Either way; Steve Nash 2 time MVP, Kidd 0.

[naiwf 0]

At least Kidd made it to the Finals in his career, and he got hosed in regards to winning an MVP that the media gave to Duncan. The man resurrected a dead franchise too and reaped none of the same rewards.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

And that has to do with..what?

 

Either way; Steve Nash 2 time MVP, Kidd 0.

 

Jason Kidd 4 time 1st All-Defensive Team, Nash 0.

 

Jason Kidd, 76 Triple Doubles, Nash has problay has then 5.

 

Jason Kidd got robbed of the MVP trophy in 2001-2002, everyone and their mothers knows this.

 

Jason Kidd took the Nets to the NBA finals with Keith Van Horn as their best offesnive player. That ends any arguement of you saying Nash is better.

[chaosrage 0]

And that has to do with..what?

 

Either way; Steve Nash 2 time MVP, Kidd 0.

 

Jason Kidd 4 time 1st All-Defensive Team, Nash 0.

 

Jason Kidd, 76 Triple Doubles, Nash has problay has then 5.

 

Jason Kidd got robbed of the MVP trophy in 2001-2002, everyone and their mothers knows this.

 

Jason Kidd took the Nets to the NBA finals with Keith Van Horn as their best offesnive player. That ends any arguement of you saying Nash is better.

 

And this has to do with what?

[iggymcfly 0]

Yeah, but that's when Eastern Conference was at about it's worst point in history. Nash's 2005 or 2006 Suns would have beaten that Nets team easily.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Yeah, but that's when Eastern Conference was at about it's worst point in history. Nash's 2005 or 2006 Suns would have beaten that Nets team easily.

 

It doesn't matter.

 

If you can take a team with Keith Van Horn as his best offensive weapon over good teams like the O'Neal/Miller Pacers, Davis/Mashburn Hornets, and Pierce/Walker Celtics, and considering their team won 26 games the previous year in the Eastern Conference at it's "worst" point. You can't help but be impressed. If you put Nash on that team, they problay would make the playoffs in a lower seed, but they wouldn't be the #1 ranked team.

 

If you want to argue that Nash had a better supporting cast around in in those seasons, then Jason Kidd in the Nets, then you recieve no arguements from me. Jason Kidd would make decent or above average talent look like all-stars. Marion and Amare were already all-star level players when Nash got there, and Q-Rich was a damn good player also. I always thought Boris Diaw was going to be a good NBA player, he just wasn't giving the chance or the miniutes to prove himself in ATL. I also think that Mike D'Antoni is a better coach then Byron Scott. All Byron Scott would do is leave the work up to Eddie Jordan.

 

I think you put Jason Kidd in those prime years, or even now in the Suns, I think they would be a much better team. Jason Kidd would give them the defensive strength they need in the backcourt.