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What the hell was that TNA rant about, JR? I'm not even sure I understand his point... is he saying TNA should only do straight wrestling with no silly angles but also not be built on wrestling because that's making them a "WWE wannabe" trying to out WWE the WWE? He lost me.

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After watching ECW Tuesday night on Sci Fi, it strikes me that the ECW boys may be having a few too many Hardcore Rules matches on their TV shows. If you have one every week, they cease being special. If one table isn’t enough what is? 5, 10? I vividly recall at Summerslam fans yelling “We Want Fire” during the” I Quit” match between Flair and Foley. What in the hell is up with that?! What’s next……organ donation??I like what I am seeing from C.M. Punk on ECW. He has a tremendous upside. Let’s hope Punk avoids the injury bug and the mental strains of potential stardom. My advice to him would be to remain diligent and professional, work harder than anyone in the building, and be prepared to carry the ball when your play is called.

 

While I like the fact that JR put Punk over, this goes to show that JR, while claiming he watched the ECW product, has about as much clue as WWE management does.

 

ECW, by its nature, was a hardcore fed with no rules. Every match was "Extreme rules", and I don't seem to recall people getting sick of them. The catch to them was that while nearly every match was no DQ, and weapons were almost always legal, not every match relied on them. You had your high-flying spotfests, you had your technical wrestling masterpieces, and you had your brawls and blood.

 

Extreme rules in ECW should be implied, because that's what makes it ECW. Do I want every match to be loaded with outside interference, tables, fire, and blood? No. But I don't want an ECW match ending on a DQ either, because DQs and ECW don't go together.

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Russo didnt really get any booking pull or heavy influence until Spring 97, after a RAW taping they did in Germany (I believe it was) that just bombed in the ratings. Think about the same time that RAW changed drastically cosmetically....that was when abouts Russo got this power. While ideas of his may have been used in some form before then, the real official move didnt happen til Spring 97.

 

Well then who was responsible for the huge change of direction in Raw in late 96, with everything becoming edgy? The Pillman/Austin gun angle. Bret Hart shoving Vince down and swearing on live TV unbleeped which caused Raw to have a 7 second delay. One of the most brilliant wrestling storylines ever done.... in the Austin/Bret feud, Bret's slow realistic heel turn on US fans, and the reformation of the Hart Foundation. Who came up with all of that?

Bret shoving Vince down and cursing like a sailor happened a few weeks after Russo took over.

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did you just ask the WWE to remember a SMACKDOWN match???

Hell, it's on their website:

 

http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/clim...op/sdtlcphotos/

 

This is the description:

 

This will go down as one of the greatest matches in SmackDown history. The World Tag Team Championship was on the line as The Dudleys, The Hardy Boyz and Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit battled for supremacy. Jericho and Benoit had just become the champions three days prior but had no time to rest. Even though he was stretchered out during the match, Benoit recovered, climbed the ladder and grabbed the gold to retain.

 

They took Edge and Christian out of the description.

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From PWInsider, about the PPV this Sunday:

 

-As of this morning, there isn't a chance at all that John Cena will be going to Smackdown on the CW network. The idea hasn't been brought up, there isn't any talk in having it happen, nothing. They see him as their biggest star, and no matter if SD "needs" him or not, he's staying on the more important show, RAW. Now, obviously that could change, but that's the way it stands as of this morning.

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did you just ask the WWE to remember a SMACKDOWN match???

Hell, it's on their website:

 

http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/clim...op/sdtlcphotos/

 

This is the description:

 

This will go down as one of the greatest matches in SmackDown history. The World Tag Team Championship was on the line as The Dudleys, The Hardy Boyz and Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit battled for supremacy. Jericho and Benoit had just become the champions three days prior but had no time to rest. Even though he was stretchered out during the match, Benoit recovered, climbed the ladder and grabbed the gold to retain.

 

They took Edge and Christian out of the description.

 

Yet included them in the pictures and the video.

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The PWI Top 500 is out now, with John Cena on the top of the list. I'm listening to this on the latest PWInsider report, so I'll update as I hear more from the list, unless someone just goes ahead and posts it. The list goes from June to June.

 

1) John Cena

2) Kurt Angle

3) Edge

4) Samoa Joe

5) Mistico

6) Rey Mysterio

7) Brock Lesnar

8) Kenta Kobashi

9) Shawn Michaels

10) Jeff Jarrett

21) Triple H

73) D-Von

74) Tokyo Magnum

75) La Parka

76) Bubba Ray

92) Sabu

 

Finlay is not listed in the top 100, yet Chris Harris is.

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The first 100, I'll post the rest in a thread in General Wrestling.

 

1- John Cena

2- Kurt Angle

3- Edge

4- Samoa Joe

5- Mistico

6- Rey Mysterio Jr.

7- Brock Lesnar

8- Kenta Kobashi

9- Shawn Michaels

10- Jeff Jarrett

 

11- Taiyo Kea

12- Christian Cage

13- AJ Styles

14- Satoshi Kojima

15- Christopher Daniels

16- Bryan Danielson

17- Perro Aguayo Jr.

18- Rob Van Dam

19- King Booker

20- Jun Akiyama

 

21- Triple H

22- Ultimo Guerrero

23- Batista

24- Ric Flair

25- Kensuke Sasaki

26- Sting

27- Carlito

28- Dr. Wagner Jr.

29- Chris Benoit

30- Randy Orton

 

31- Tiger Mask IV

32- El Hijo Del Santo

33- Hiroyoshi Tenzan

34- Atlantis

35- CM Punk

36- KENTA

37- Shelton Benjamin

38- Abyss

39- Rey Bucanero

40- Jushin Liger

 

41- Mark Henry

42- Rhino

43- Hiroshi Tanahashi

44- Big Show

45- Dos Caras Jr.

46- Chris Harris

47- Nigel McGuinness

48- Averno

49- Katsuhiko Nakajima

50- Kane

 

51- Bobby Lashley

52- Keiji Muto

53- James Storm

54- Mephisto

55- Kaz Hayashi

56- CIMA

57- Naomichi Marufuji

58- Black Warrior

59- Undertaker

60- Takeshi Rikio

 

61- Austin Aries

62- Hector Garza

63- Roderick Strong

64- John Bradshaw Layfield

65- Tarzan Boy

66- Masa Chono

67- Colt Cabana

68- Genichiro Tenryu

69- Doug Williams

70- Shocker

 

71- Milano Collection A.T.

72- Johnny Nitro

73- Brother Devon

74- Tokyo Magnum

75- L.A. Park

76- Brother Ray

77- Minoru Suzuki

78- Olimpico

79- Ikuto Jidaka

80- Brent Albright

 

81- Minoru Fujita

82- Negro Casas

83- Toshiaki Kawada

84- Mr. Aguila

85- Takeshi Morishima

86- Petey Williams

87- Paul London

88- Mitsuharu Misawa

89- Halloween

90- Matt Hardy

 

91- Akira Taue

92- Sabu

93- Damian 666

94- Monty Brown

95- Ultimo Dragon

96- Maximo

97- Takashi Sugiura

98- Umaga

99- Adam Pearce

100- Masato Tanaka

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Well then who was responsible for the huge change of direction in Raw in late 96, with everything becoming edgy? The Pillman/Austin gun angle. Bret Hart shoving Vince down and swearing on live TV unbleeped which caused Raw to have a 7 second delay. One of the most brilliant wrestling storylines ever done.... in the Austin/Bret feud, Bret's slow realistic heel turn on US fans, and the reformation of the Hart Foundation. Who came up with all of that?

The gun angle was the idea of Jake Roberts. The Bret Hart heel turn was McMahon's idea, with Bret coming up with the pro-Canada part of the storyline.

 

Russo came onto the writing team proper the week after the Raw from Europe that held the European title match with Owen and Davey Boy.

 

And you can ignore Russo's 'shoot' interview. The guy is in work mode from start to finish.

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Kanyon did an interview for a Canadian radio show called the O Show recently in which he says that Bret Hart told him at a WCW event in 1999 that Montreal was a work.

 

Has this guy been in attention whore mode lately or what?

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After watching ECW Tuesday night on Sci Fi, it strikes me that the ECW boys may be having a few too many Hardcore Rules matches on their TV shows. If you have one every week, they cease being special. If one table isn’t enough what is? 5, 10? I vividly recall at Summerslam fans yelling “We Want Fire” during the” I Quit” match between Flair and Foley. What in the hell is up with that?! What’s next……organ donation??I like what I am seeing from C.M. Punk on ECW. He has a tremendous upside. Let’s hope Punk avoids the injury bug and the mental strains of potential stardom. My advice to him would be to remain diligent and professional, work harder than anyone in the building, and be prepared to carry the ball when your play is called.

 

While I like the fact that JR put Punk over, this goes to show that JR, while claiming he watched the ECW product, has about as much clue as WWE management does.

 

ECW, by its nature, was a hardcore fed with no rules. Every match was "Extreme rules", and I don't seem to recall people getting sick of them. The catch to them was that while nearly every match was no DQ, and weapons were almost always legal, not every match relied on them. You had your high-flying spotfests, you had your technical wrestling masterpieces, and you had your brawls and blood.

 

Extreme rules in ECW should be implied, because that's what makes it ECW. Do I want every match to be loaded with outside interference, tables, fire, and blood? No. But I don't want an ECW match ending on a DQ either, because DQs and ECW don't go together.

They can claim having too many extreme rules matches makes them less special, but honestly, it seems like calling the match extreme rules is kind of an excuse to overbook it or have a garbage finish. I mean really, do you honestly NOT expect run-ins when one of Heyman's cronies is in an extreme rules match?

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I am looking forward to the continued development of Cody Runnels, son of Dusty Rhodes, and Teddy and Mike DiBiase, son of the Million Dollar Man, as all three of these young men may have what it takes to break through and successfully follow in their talented father’s footsteps.

 

Has anyone ever seen these kids work?

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I have been thinking is there any chance this whole Trish is retiring could be one big swerve I never seen anyone getting this kind of sendoff like her. Edge made a comment saying that all good looking people are from Toronto, they could have Trish beating lita and "retiring" as the womens champ they shake hands and trish leaves with the crowd cheering for her. Later during the TLC lita tries to interfer Trish not wanting that to happen runs down and takes out Lita and also does something to cost Cena the match aligning herself with Edge.

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Why do they keep saying Edge has never lost a TLC match? Did the 4-way TLC on SmackDown in 2001 never take place all of a sudden?

 

Everyone was still in shock over Triple H's nearly career ending injury that occured only three (one) days prior.

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On PWInsider, the guys are talking about Kurt Angle wanting to get into MMA, even if for one big match for one big payoff. They say that he's actually considering doing it, and K1 is wanting to do Angle/Lesnar, a shoot WM rematch.

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As I've never seen 5 Questions with John Cena, I assumed at first that was a Brooklyn Bralwer shirt and the slogan referenced the fact he might have been the question asker on said show. However, I see it has Cena's "Hustle / Loyalty / Respect" slogan on it, thus I assume it is a Cener shirt.

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It would be very, very ugly if Kurt ever decided to do that. If he can't bump in a wrestling ring, imagine what it would be like in MMA when all of those guys know what his weaknesses are.

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