Star Ocean 3 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 At first I hated how Impact was going, with the fake TNA chants in the beginning and the weird, heavily edited stuff that started last week. Jake hardly finishes speaking before they cut back to the crowd. The WWE "waiting in the back for the limo" is unnecessary. And the random matches need to stop - AMW teaming with the LAX, Christian beating up jobbers and running away going into the biggest show ever? But Shelley and Nash back together is the best. Senshi should have been destroying Lethal like that every single week since he won the title. For some reason I liked Jarrett running out with the belt, and the James interview was good. The woman in the white shirt in the audience was tremendous. How can 3D and AMW not be on the show? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 How can 3D and AMW not be on the show? Um, AMW *WAS* on the show. They were part of the 8-Man Tag Main Event Match. And if you mean Bound for Glory, there's now a 4 Team Elimination match with Team 3D, The James Gang (might be wrong on this team), The Naturals and AMW for the PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 I liked what I saw last night, but I sadly again fell asleep in the middle of the show. Can't wait 'til they move to a better timeslot, if only a little bit better. Jake Roberts looked and sounded pathetic out there. I bet he doesn't even appear at the PPV. You could tell the crowd couldn't even understand what he was saying. As an aside, Cecil Fielder could probably use the money via a TNA appearance...he blew all his money gambling a few years ago, and his son Prince who plays for the Milwaukee Brewers is completely estranged from him, AFAIK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 The show was exciting at times and also quite humorous, but I still don't think that the TV leading up to the PPV has hyped the PPV. It's a curious approach I must say, almost like "We're building to the future" when the biggest PPV in the company's history is Sunday. This Sting/Jarrett feud is like the albatross preventing TNA from doing about 100 decent things. They should have just blown that off with the Christian heel turn, then do Sting/Christian. Am I the only one who feels this way? They have some good stuff being built, but none of it exactly is on Sunday. Sting/Jarrett (especially on Sting's side) has been the most phoned in PPV main event since Hogan/Flair from Uncensored 2000. Joe has no real point being in a match with Abyss/Runt/Raven. Christian has more compelling issues with Joe and Sting at this point than he does with Rhino. The card sounds good matchwise, the booking is good, but it's like there are two different people on different pages booking here. One guy thinking up the PPV matches, and someone else doing storylines. The build doesn't match the card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luke-o 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 I just watched the video of Joe/Angle on Youtube. I marked the fuck out for it! It was fuckin awesome! But i do agree with you that Joe has no reason to be in the Monsters Ball, he should have had another showcase match like he did last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 Joe is in Monsters Ball as punishment for stealing the belt and defying the authority of Jim Cornette. Least thats what I always got out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luke-o 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 Oh right, now that does make sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sarcy Report post Posted October 20, 2006 ......your so not going to last very long here. I really don't know how you can LAX is overrated when their the top heel team and are very impressive in the ring as a team. The LAX vs Daniels/Styles fued has been one of the most intense feuds I have seen in a very long time. Sorry, I don't find them entertaining at all. Just a huge guy that can toss around CWs, someone who has always sucked because he tried too hard and someone who deserves way better. Plus, where I live the whole immigration issue is very serious and I don't want to watch it on TV when it's not part of hte news. But after thinking about it, I would love to see AMW and LAX fued just because of the blood factor. I am gross like that. And I agree on the direction TNA was going. Impact used to be the best wrestling show last October because it was something fresh from what the WWE was doing at the time. Now, its just like the WWE's sixth hour or something. Not really interesting. imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luke-o 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 and your opion is wrong. imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GODSON 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 And I agree on the direction TNA was going. Impact used to be the best wrestling show last October because it was something fresh from what the WWE was doing at the time. Now, its just like the WWE's sixth hour or something. Not really interesting. imo. It's hard to be different. Eric Bischoff recently said being different from the WWE is easier said than done when talking about TNA. TNA is not in the market of being different(because Spike TV is in control of TNA and want to go the safe route). They might claim their different with the X division and blah,blah,blah but the formula of putting on a national wrestling tv show is set in stone. I'm pretty sure if Ring of Honor made the transition to national tv, they would follow the same standard format as WWE and TNA. They can't go the lucha route because it won't work because lucha use a certain wrestling style(same things goes for PURO). Go back to the famous Monday NIght Wars, RAW and Nitro was basically the same show with different characters and outcomes. Hart Foundation feuding with the top babyfaces and holding all the major titles on RAW,while NWO was doing the exact same thing on NItro. You can follow the same formula but the execution is what people care about the most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigeraid 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 Just finished up watching.. Everything was "eh." TNA was suppose to be the wrestling show, but there were more backstage stuff than wrestling and all of the matches were short and served no purpose. I have always hated squash matches. It was cool to see the DDT from Roberts agains. And I am probably the only one who thinks LAX is the most fucking overrated thing in wrestling. Well, next to Joe. :-/ Yes, you are. LAX is pretty much the best angle in wrestling right now. You have a solid tag team, one that was involved in what's likely the MotY so far at the last PPV. Homicide, the lucha/x-division guy, Hernandez the muscle (who is being utilized and protected EXTREMELY well in the ring) and you have, finally, Konnan in a role where he doesn't suck, where his promos matter, and are fresh and interesting for the first time since like 1996. On top of that, you have one of the most creative entrances in wrestling complete with a live spanish announcer (and I don't even like rap.) The angle is relevant to today's political climate (ask anyone living in the southern states about the militant Mexican gangs) and has proponents on both sides of the argument, making it poignant and important. This is something neither the nWo or DX could ever hope to accomplish, and only the Nation of Domination got a glimmer at (and NoD's version of this angle was tired from the start.) As for the show, I have lots of problems with Impact, but above all else what they have to do with this 1 hr show is hype the PPV. The match quality on Impact is usually not that great, with a few exceptions. But the hype for PPVs? OUTSTANDING. The Joe/Angle segment, the video package at the end, all fantastic at making me WANT to order BFG... while at the same time hinting at future feuds! (AMW vs LAX, Joe vs Angle.) The only thing I don't particularly like taking up time is the endless Sting videos. But I dunno, this angle HAS to be going somewhere... The show was exciting at times and also quite humorous, but I still don't think that the TV leading up to the PPV has hyped the PPV. It's a curious approach I must say, almost like "We're building to the future" when the biggest PPV in the company's history is Sunday. Couldn't agree with you more. And I think this is honestly Russo's and Carter's doing. Jarrett has damn near booked the main event into the ground with Sting/Jarrett, and from what the interviews have said, Russo is very high on putting Joe in the spotlight (finally.) So I think this is his influence, trying to hype the future storylines that'll really carry the company throughout the next year. Am I the only one who feels this way? They have some good stuff being built, but none of it exactly is on Sunday. Sting/Jarrett (especially on Sting's side) has been the most phoned in PPV main event since Hogan/Flair from Uncensored 2000. Joe has no real point being in a match with Abyss/Runt/Raven. Christian has more compelling issues with Joe and Sting at this point than he does with Rhino. match the card. Again, the booking for BFG really seemed to happen almost 2 months early, since hyping Sting/Jarrett. That immediately put them at odds as to wtf they were going to do with Joe. This is honestly the best they could've come up with, or at least what Jarrett wanted. I would've liked to see Joe win the match at the last PPV to earn a shot at the title, making it a 3-way at BFG. But they dropped the ball on that one. As far as I'm concerned, TNA starts after BFG now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Ocean 3 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 I like how everyone takes exception to him knocking the LAX but not Joe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigeraid 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 I like how everyone takes exception to him knocking the LAX but not Joe. wtf, where did he do that? Death to the unbeliever! BTW, I can't seem to get VLC to capture any screens for me--can I request someone screencap the image of a bloddy joe standing behind Kurt Angle? I would build several churches in your honour if you do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted October 20, 2006 Just finished up watching.. Everything was "eh." TNA was suppose to be the wrestling show, but there were more backstage stuff than wrestling and all of the matches were short and served no purpose. I have always hated squash matches. It was cool to see the DDT from Roberts agains. And I am probably the only one who thinks LAX is the most fucking overrated thing in wrestling. Well, next to Joe. :-/ ......your so not going to last very long here. I really don't know how you can LAX is overrated when their the top heel team and are very impressive in the ring as a team. The LAX vs Daniels/Styles fued has been one of the most intense feuds I have seen in a very long time. Translation: CONFORM~!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 The guy didn't do anything wrong, his opinion was sound and should be respected though not agreed with by many. Seems like he or she or it handled themselves quite well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carnival 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 Pretty good Impact. I lol'd at Cecil Fielder. Gail Kim takes the crazy bump and knees herself in the face. I love when Hernandez just launches people like that, him killing Sonjay Dutt was the best. Kurt Angle busting Joe open hardway with the headbutt was AMAZING, plus you gotta love sneaky Jeff Jarrett getting his belt back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted October 20, 2006 The guy didn't do anything wrong, his opinion was sound and should be respected though not agreed with by many. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! anyway, anyone else notice Hernandez grab Gail's boobs as he was positioning her (heh) up for that Border Toss (or whatever it's called)? lucky dawg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 I think the Border Toss is the underarm overhead suplex that he does to Daniels so often. I think that was the Cracker Jack. ... Border Toss...Cracker Jack...Gringo Killer... God I love LAX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigeraid 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 nm, got it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 I was impressed how high Angle got Joe for the Olympic Slam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 I run hot and cold on LAX to be honest. I loathe the goofy "We're Latinos and we hate whitey" schtick. It didn't work for the LWO--which had better talent in it I might add--and there's no way it'll work now. The difference to me is that while the audience might listen to a pissed off black militant gimmick, I have a tough time giving a shit about some illegal immigrants bitch and moan about being oppressed. Does anyone else not see a difference? Ron Killings going on rants about being held down by the man rings true, since it's very likely he's been screwed over at some point in his life due to race (likely even in the wrestling business). A 42 year old Konnan, who made six figures with WCW for years? Sheesh. With that said, at least the Styles/Daniels vs LAX build has clicked. As in they feud and then actually face off at a PPV, unlike half the stuff TNA has had on TV lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 People aren't mentioning one of the best parts about Impact. Lethal and Dutt acting like homos and Low Ki screaming as he breaks in and kicks the shit out of both of them. With the UFC craze going on, why are they not pushing Low Ki more? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2006 With the UFC craze going on, why are they not pushing Low Ki more? Because UFC doesn't matter in the bubble that TNA lives in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedJed 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 Whatever the case, that Impact show made me more interested in the ppv than before - somehow, someway. That Angle/Joe segment was some of the most powerful TNA stuff, PERIOD, in their whole run. Thing is that I see that ppv leading more long term into things, like building to the next six months of shows, versus BFG being a Mania show of sorts, blowing off this and that. With that said, I do see them giving the belt to Sting and in the background (for now) building Joe-Angle somehow during that match. Am strongly looking forward to this ppv. I could see a few surprises and Russo booking leading to more long term ideas/programs down the road as that is what they need to focus on right now anyway. Whatever the case, I feel the buzz for the show on Sunday is strong and I'm damn well looking forward to seeing what is up their proverbial sleeve from a booking perspective. But I gotta say, fuck, did Jake Roberts come off EXTREMELY fucked up in that edited segment with him or what. If he makes it to BFG in one piece, I will be very surprised. I can't believe they even aired that segment, Roberts was a mess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 With the UFC craze going on, why are they not pushing Low Ki more? Because UFC doesn't matter in the bubble that TNA lives in. Because Kevin Nash is the only star in the X Division that matters. Senshi isn't in the main event and his name is not Jarrett so he does not matter to the people who are the mysterious Creative. It's really sad that the X Division is getting push aside and pretty much ignored so all of the ex-WWE workers who are better talkers but are'nt that exciting in the ring get the push. TNA can do all of the storyline buildup they want but when it gets to the point where they have to wrestle and remember this is a PRO WRESTLING company not a direct-to-video movie studio its kind of a let down to see the 40-something main eventer go through the motions in the ring. The X Division is where the TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION is and the company should never forget that. TNA should bring in Shamrock or Tito to film some training montages with Senshi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 nevermind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 Kurt's entrance is great but his music sounds like Linkin Park remixed the Mortal Kombat theme with his WWE music. In other words, completely nuts much like Kurt. To me, it sounds like more of a direct knockoff of Red Rider's "Lunatic Fringe". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 Kurt's entrance is great but his music sounds like Linkin Park remixed the Mortal Kombat theme with his WWE music. In other words, completely nuts much like Kurt. To me, it sounds like more of a direct knockoff of Red Rider's "Lunatic Fringe". You might be right but I've never heard that. Least I don't think I have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2006 I was flipping through the channels and I caught the Kurt Angle/Samoa Joe bit at the end. I'm not a TNA fan but I watched the entire segment, then I rewound it and watched it again. That was pretty cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2006 People aren't mentioning one of the best parts about Impact. Lethal and Dutt acting like homos and Low Ki screaming as he breaks in and kicks the shit out of both of them. With the UFC craze going on, why are they not pushing Low Ki more? That match and the buildup to it made me mark out like a 15 year old. The part that was perfect was Jerry Lynn warning them to cut the shit and ten seconds later Ki comes in and beats the shit out of both Dutt and Lethal, then takes out Sabin for good measure. Short and to the point. At this rate Ki might as well turn face, even though he's supposedly a tweener. I don;t know about the Joe/Angle angle, to be honest. To me it just seems like something else to derail Joe on his way to being champion. Almost every fan of TNA wants to see it, and unless Angle gets fed to Joe (which I see as unlikely, as one good Muscle Buster to Angle might literally break him in half), I don;t see it happening for at least 6 months now. I run hot and cold on it, and it can be a great thing if done right. I just have my doubts on whether it can be done correctly. Unless Angle pulled a major-league swerve on Vince and is much healthier than reports indicate, going up against Joe now seems like a unnecessary risk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
