NFL 2007 Draft Thread

[dh86 0]

unless calvin can be a star safety and stanton can play corner....the lions had one shitty draft

[The Niggardly King 0]

I just love ESPN hammering home this past week on why the Lions HAD TO DRAFT Calvin Johnson.

[MFer 0]

unless calvin can be a star safety and stanton can play corner....the lions had one shitty draft

Well most of the analysts seem to like the Lions pick so take it as you will...I really can't dog Millen too much for taking the consensus #1 player and Stanton could turn out to be the future franchise QB. What I do have a major issue with is the last 2 picks. I kinda like Francis, Alexander, not quite so much. The beef I have with those picks though is that they traded up to get them when they certainly would've been available later on. I've seen Alexander projected anywhere from the 5th to the 7th round. They still need to find a MLB and a CB. They could've gotten Hughes out of Cal.

[Hawk 34 0]

Stanton will have two good teachers behind with Kitna and Martz. I wouldn't be too hard on him yet.

[devo 0]

Well, I was out all day and didn't get to watch the draft while it was happening, so I'm just now finding out about the Jets' exploits today. I'm surprised, but pleased at the same time. I didn't expect Tannenbaum to deal so many picks to move up in the order, but they seem to have gotten good talent that can start immediately at the positions they need to improve the most, so maybe it's for the best. It's probably too much to hope that Revis and Harris adjust to the NFL as quickly and impressively as Mangold (and, to a lesser extent, Ferguson) did last year, but at the very least I'm sure that they'll be able to contribute to the team in this upcoming season.

[Guest Queen Leelee]

I hate Draft Grades. They make zero sense.

Indeed.

 

But, I will rate the Bills' choices anyway.

 

1. (12) Marshawn Lynch. Not crazy about this choice. I think Lynch was over valued because of the weak RB class this year, with no 1st round material after him. I saw a handful of Cal games this year, and he's just not a stud RB. Infact, his backup made Lynch look slow. What Lynch does bring is strong receiving and blocking skills for a RB... which the Bills have been searching for, for years. But, at the 12th pick, I expect a special runner, and Lynch is not that.

 

2. (34) Paul Posluszny. Bad pick here, and even worse since we traded up for him. He's overrated because he's white and small, and that makes you gritty, with absolutely no character issues or whatever bullshit. It doesn't matter how well he played at Penn State, or how tough and fighting through injuries he was, because he'll have to get significantly bigger and stronger for the pros, and who knows how that will affect his game. And he's already weak in the pass coverage role. Unacceptable to have those questions with an early 2nd round pick.

 

3. (92) Trent Edwards. I don't understand the goal here... Losman is our QB for the upcoming years. And we paid Nall a lot of money. Nall has to be given a shot as the backup. Hard to rate Edwards since he played on a god-awful team, but at least he had some poise while getting killed. The negative is that he's a non-mobile hoss. I think those slow QB's will eventually be a thing of the past for the position.

[Guest]

I loved the Lions draft. Trying to fix past mistakes.

 

You get Johnson, and Martz fucking KNOWS how to get that guy the ball. You get Stanton because Martz knows how to develop QB's. The only thing wrong with Stanton is his delivery (which is so overrated nowadays, considering that 80% of the quarterbacks that get drafted have "delivery issues") and that Stanton wants to bail out of the pocket at the first sign of trouble. They're both good picks.

 

Johnson could have stepped on the field last year and dominated. Sure Millen fucked up on the Rogers and Williams picks, but you've gotta keep pushing to get your players. Because those two didn't pan out, it left a hole that needed to be fixed. I'd say they fixed it in the best way.

 

When you make a mistake and draft a player that busts, you have to fix it. I'd say that you can't leave gaping holes for a longer period of time, it's best to fix them as soon as possible. You don't just go away from players at a certain position because you've drafted busts.

[Der Kommissar 0]

What I do have a major issue with is the last 2 picks. I kinda like Francis, Alexander, not quite so much.

 

That's pretty much how I feel about the last two picks. The Alexander pick puzzles me. His NFL.com profile calls him "roster filler" and makes him out to be a fairly huge project. I could see the Lions taking a guy like that later on, but in the second round? Trading up for him, no less. Just terrible.

 

I am not entirely sold on Stanton myself. It seems like there is a mix of opinions on the guy. On the one hand, I keep hearing that's he a tough customer who has had the misfortune of playing on a bad team(Seeing the team who picked him, his misfortune looks to continue). On the other, I have heard that his accuracy is horrible, his arm strength is OK, and some feel that he's destined to be the next Tony Banks. I am not sure what to think. Add in the fact that Trent Edwards fell all the way to the third round, and I am starting to think the Lions should have went elsewhere with this pick.

 

I am a bit excited about the Johnson pick, but the rest of the Lions' first day just feels so underwhelming. I was thinking that the Lions would able to fill some needs in the second and third rounds, but, alas, it looks like Matt Millen struck out this time. As a casual fan of the University of Hawaii, I am happy to see Francis go to the Lions, but I just can't be happy with the other two picks. Hopefully, time will change me on them, but, seeing that I am talking about the Lions here, I have my doubts.

[Mike wanna be 0]

When you make a mistake and draft a player that busts, you have to fix it. I'd say that you can't leave gaping holes for a longer period of time, it's best to fix them as soon as possible. You don't just go away from players at a certain position because you've drafted busts.

I'd buy the argument, except for the fact that the Lions had issues that needed fixing as soon as Millen came in, and thus far he's done nothing but create more issues as well as prove incapable of fixing them.

 

If the Lions have issues with their quarterback, offensive line or any part of the defense...just as people look back on Houston's 06 decision, people will look back and wonder if Quinn, Thomas, Hall, Revis, Posluzny, etc. could've turned things around.

 

To summarize the 2001 through 2007 NFL drafts for the Detroit Lion: Millen flirts with the obvious, but veers away at the last second into a head-on collision with the idiot mobile carrying a full load of dumbass.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Interesting draft today, definitely a change from the last few years where there's been little trading and a lot of good selections. I thought this looked like a pretty deep draft, but damn near everyone went defense in the first round.

 

On a personal fandom note: I hated the Justin Harrell pick at #16, with Greg Olsen still available. This is a vote of confidence in Bubba Franks, I guess, but how often do you get a shot at a good tight end in the first? I saw that Peterson, Lynch, and Ted Ginn were all gone by then, so I could see how Thompson went defense there. And Harrell's got things I like- He's a big defensive lineman which will help the young and improving defense (the linebackers are small so they need a big guy next to Ryan Pickett, Kampman, and KGB to let Hawk, Barnett, and whoeverthefuck run around and make plays). And there's of course the story with him rupturing his biceps then bandaging up and playing the following week in a big game to help his team. I love that, and I can see the Packers did too.

 

My biggest problem with the first day picks was Brandon Jackson and James Jones. I don't know what they saw in Jones, but they definitely could've gone with a safety or someone else there- I looked at his highlight video and wasn't all that impressed. And Jackson? He started what, 11-16 games and he's going to compete for the starting running back position?! I was hoping they'd go for Antonio Pittman, Darius Walker, or Lorenzo Booker. Although, all three have issues of some sort, and I know the three of them have some issues with injury, blocking, or receiving, so I could understand the drop but still. I love the drafting of Aaron Rouse- but only if they keep him at safety. He's way too light to be a weakside linebacker, and I like the idea of having a hard hitter at safety ala Darren Sharper.

 

He was the only VT player selected on the first day, by the way.

[yankovic fan 0]

"Los Angles Raiders are on the clock"

 

heh

[snuffbox 0]

The Saints added Antonio Pittman to their running back collection.

[yankovic fan 0]

Yes and I do not get it unless he is a back up power runner to Deuce. The 'expert' in the ESPN chat thinks Deuce is gone after this year even though he signed a 7 year extension in 2005.

[Hawk 34 0]

Los Angles Raiders took Bowie. That was a good move. Carolina took Robinson. I'm happy to see that, he was a good return man on a really shitty Miami team.

[Guest Queen Leelee]

Bills take another skill position player in Wright from Fresno State. I like that he's a hoss, but we need line help still. On both sides.

[snuffbox 0]

New England gets Randy Moss/Oakland gets a 4th round pick. Why couldn't GB do this?

[the pinjockey 0]

Bills take another skill position player in Wright from Fresno State. I like that he's a hoss, but we need line help still. On both sides.

 

Could always go Marcus Thomas. He could be great for the 4 games before he gets suspended.

 

I'd kill right now to have Ben Patrick slip to the Eagles. If he slips to the 5th or if they move up to get him I would really like this draft even with Kolb.

[the pinjockey 0]

Nevermind, of course Denver would trade up to get him. Clarett wasn't enough drawmuh for them a couple years ago

[Broward83 0]

The fuck is a Fred Bennet?

 

You'd fucking think that by now, someone in the Texans' FO would be maybe looking over the O Line and saying: "Gee.. maybe we should sorta fill this thing out..."

[yankovic fan 0]

Saints take another freaking offensive side player. Apparently Coach Payton wants basketball level scores for all Saints games.

[Guest Richard McBeef]

I have to believe the Patriots are the favorites to win the Super Bowl now. Damn.

[LaParkaMarka 0]

Their WR corps is pretty sick. Moss, if he regains form, demands double coverage. Stallworth can burn single coverage, and Welker and Watson can rip up the middle of the field.

[Guest Tzar Lysergic]

I have to believe the Patriots are the favorites to win the Super Bowl now. Damn.

 

They're reminding me of the Redskins teams where they got a shitload of free agents and went nowhere.

[Guest Queen Leelee]

Except the Patriots are the Patriots, and they don't have a stupid fuck owner.

[2GOLD 0]

The fuck is a Fred Bennet?

 

You'd fucking think that by now, someone in the Texans' FO would be maybe looking over the O Line and saying: "Gee.. maybe we should sorta fill this thing out..."

 

Offensive line? What the hell is an offensive line? Stop making up positions for the Texans to draft!

 

And the other small difference is most of the guys the Patriots signed aren't past their prime old free agents who should have retired the year they were signed. Except maybe Moss but I'm hoping he has one bitch free season in him.

 

Ben Patrick fell off the planet. I don't know what happened to him but he's suddenly getting one of those "cut in training camp fast" feels about him. Damn shame.

[Annabelle 0]

the pats can have moss.

 

the raiders got both josh mccown and mike williams for a 4th rounder. i love it. mccown will start this year, and hopefully williams can finally get this shit together. if so, look out. raiders, baby.

[Boon 0]

Essentially how it works out is the Pats gave San Francisco the #28 pick in 2007 for a first rounder in 2008 and Randy Moss.

[Guest Richard McBeef]

Except the Patriots are the Patriots, and they don't have a stupid fuck owner.

They're just a ridiculously charmed franchise, kind of like the Marlins, except Kraft isn't the penultimate douchebag of sports like Loria.

[2GOLD 0]

So the Bears haven't drafted a quarterback in this draft so I guess that's a pretty clear sign that it's Grossman-Griese or bust. I actually like that, give the guy one last chance to show whether or not he really is the good quarterback he showed flashes of last season. And if not, maybe they can find a diamond in next year's draft.

 

And no one has taken a chance on David Ball yet? The guy still seems like a strong possession receiver that a team could use so I'm surprised no one has went after him yet.

 

ETA: The Ravens just drafted their quarterback project, selecting Troy Smith with their final pick of the fifth round. Sorry, NFL Network said it was their final pick but apparently they do have another one in the later rounds.

[Annabelle 0]

i'ms surprised at troy smiths fall. i thought 3rd round, tops.