Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 Seriously though, if we cannot protect our own border, why keep such a high percentage of our armed forces overseas? Because we've got loads of people in our country that agree with this. More agreements (guns) than people at this point, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theintensifier 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 I understand that. However, if you shot an illegal alien, you'd be prosecuted, even though the person wasn't an American citizen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 However, if you shot an illegal alien, you'd be prosecuted, even though the person wasn't an American citizen. Are you implying that's a bad thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 What about tourists? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theintensifier 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 However, if you shot an illegal alien, you'd be prosecuted, even though the person wasn't an American citizen. Are you implying that's a bad thing? Not at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 What about tourists? If we don't close our borders, the tourists have won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 I think if our military shot a few illegals and strung up their corpses along the border, it could go a long way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 lol death Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 What about tourists? If we don't close our borders, the tourists have won. Its funny because tourists sounds like terrorists. Get it? Wakka-wakka. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CWMwasmurdered Report post Posted January 9, 2007 I think if our military shot a few illegals and strung up their corpses along the border, it could go a long way. You have to be a gimmick. That'd be a quick way to start a war. And yes, I know America could wipe the floor with Mexico. USA USA USA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 File footage of I3K: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 He could be talking about Kansas 1st District Representative Jerry Moran ...but not likely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginger Snaps 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 However, if you shot an illegal alien, you'd be prosecuted, even though the person wasn't an American citizen. Are you implying that's a bad thing? But it is not just that. there has been at least one case of border agents getting into a firefight with an actual Mexican drug trafficker. They shot and killed him. They got prosecuted and are looking at significant jail time. There's a big controversy about it by some politicians now because they want Bush to pardon them but he hasn't done it. No one should shoot regular illegal aliens just trying to cross to get a job. But they aren't the problem. But if you are a border agent or a national guard and can't even defend yourself against an actual criminal, a drug trafficker, without getting prosecuted and thrown in jail, there is a serious problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 Exactly. Our government wants the immigrants to cross and become a cheap peasant class to fuel our labor needs, and destroy the middle class. That is why our national guard and military have been made to be completely limp wristed in dealing with the foreign horde. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CWMwasmurdered Report post Posted January 9, 2007 and how are they supposed to instantly tell the difference between a normal illegal and a dastardly drug trafficker? The bad guys don't all wear black hats, nor do they all start fire fights. foreign horde? Where not talking about the Mongols here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zaius 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 I don't see how immigrants are taking anyone's jobs away. You don't see a lot of middle class people trying to get jobs washing dishes or picking fruit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 Invader, why not just stop before you become the new Justpassinby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 There's no law that says you can kill in self-defense (but not illegal immigrants!) Either the border guards did something fishy, or it was a bad trial, and they'll hopefully win in appeals. I doubt someone in the federal gov't called up some local judge and told them to convict some innocent border guards because they wanted cheap labor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginger Snaps 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 and how are they supposed to instantly tell the difference between a normal illegal and a dastardly drug trafficker? The bad guys don't all wear black hats, nor do they all start fire fights. I would imagine if the border agent sees a Mexican moving, you know, product.....that'd be a tip off. I don't get what your problem here is. No one is saying that this is a majority of the illegals. But you're the other extreme, you act as if this thing isn't happening at all when it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 Is it time to put together the forums.smartmarks.com militia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 Mobilize the troops, Colonel Snuffbox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest "Go, Mordecai!" Report post Posted January 9, 2007 I think if our military shot a few illegals and strung up their corpses along the border, it could go a long way. What the fuck? Are you reading Heart of Darkness or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 Is it time to put together the forums.smartmarks.com militia? GET OFF MAH LAND YOU MEXICANAS! And remind me never to step on the grass in Invader's yard, something tells me he'll shoot me as an example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CWMwasmurdered Report post Posted January 9, 2007 and how are they supposed to instantly tell the difference between a normal illegal and a dastardly drug trafficker? The bad guys don't all wear black hats, nor do they all start fire fights. I would imagine if the border agent sees a Mexican moving, you know, product.....that'd be a tip off. I don't get what your problem here is. No one is saying that this is a majority of the illegals. But you're the other extreme, you act as if this thing isn't happening at all when it is. Saying that you can't always tell the bad guys apart from everyone else is hardly acting as if the problem doesn't exist. The point is that if you say it's okay for the border guards to shoot people as long as they're drug traffickers, then they'll start blasting everyone and just say they were drug traffickers or at the least innocent people will accidentally be killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 We should steal one of those rusty gatling guns from a Civil War museum. We'll march down there and mow them people down like we're some kind of proud American lawnmowers or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 Heh, the Wild Bunch is so awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 I don't understand why some of you are so willing to let the US give up its sovereignty as a nation. It's like we should just lie back and let Mexico use us as their own lebensraum or something. I have nothing against most Mexican people. I understand most of them want to work. We definitely need to reform immigration and introduce some type of easy access to a guest worker program. However, the fact that people think we should just let this completely unchecked flow of migrants continue, puzzles me to no end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 well, how exactly would you like to stop it, say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest "Go, Mordecai!" Report post Posted January 9, 2007 well, how exactly would you like to stop it, say? That's right. Make them listen to the whole thing before they're allowed in. Then we'll see who makes the cut. THE FINAL CUT! See what I did there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2007 Czech just had a momentary lapse of reason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites