k thx Posted February 19, 2007 Author Report Posted February 19, 2007 I'm seriously asking this because I don't know: what is the difference...and don't get defensive brits, I seriously want to know. Great Britain is an island, on it are Scotland, England, and Wales. The United Kingdom comprises those three on Great Britain plus Ulster, a.k.a. Northern Ireland. The British Isles comprise Great Britain, Ireland (even though Eire is not part of Britain or the UK, geographically, it is a British Isle), plus those little specks like the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands, and so on, which are protectorates of the British Crown, whose residents are caught in some half-British limbo, where they are British citizens, but not part of the United Kingdom. (It's their Puerto Rico.) Thus, all English are British, but not all British are English. Some British are Scottish, some identify as Cornish, some are Welsh. Northern Irish are just Irish, though their fellow countrymen are British, not Irish. The Manx are Manx, the Guernseymen Guernseymen, though as dependencies, most of their affairs are handled by the British. You got the Irish bit the wrong way round the second time, but got it right the first time. All the British Isles, apart from Eire, are under the Queen's rule and British government. The Cornish are English, but have their own language and stuff. Kind of like Hawaiians I guess. Or the Basque, but without the wish to become a seperate nation. Technically, you've also got micronations like Sealand and The Kingdom of Lovely, but they're not legally recognised.
Guest Oedipus Rex Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 I'm seriously asking this because I don't know: what is the difference...and don't get defensive brits, I seriously want to know. Great Britain is an island, on it are Scotland, England, and Wales. The United Kingdom comprises those three on Great Britain plus Ulster, a.k.a. Northern Ireland. The British Isles comprise Great Britain, Ireland (even though Eire is not part of Britain or the UK, geographically, it is a British Isle), plus those little specks like the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands, and so on, which are protectorates of the British Crown, whose residents are caught in some half-British limbo, where they are British citizens, but not part of the United Kingdom. (It's their Puerto Rico.) Thus, all English are British, but not all British are English. Some British are Scottish, some identify as Cornish, some are Welsh. Northern Irish are just Irish, though their fellow countrymen are British, not Irish. The Manx are Manx, the Guernseymen Guernseymen, though as dependencies, most of their affairs are handled by the British. You got the Irish bit the wrong way round the second time, but got it right the first time. All the British Isles, apart from Eire, are under the Queen's rule and British government. As I understood it, a citizen of Ulster is a British citizen, but referred to as just Irish, like Scottish/Welsh/English, not Northern Irish.
k thx Posted February 19, 2007 Author Report Posted February 19, 2007 Ah, my bad, got mixed up. Thought you were saying People from Eire were British. Yeah, Northern Irish people I've known call themselves Irish, although they're refered to as Northern Irish.
Slayer Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 Culturally, what (if any) is the difference between Northern Ireland and the rest of the island?
Giuseppe Zangara Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 I have a crush on PLAGIARISM! Don't tell him!
Art Sandusky Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 Yeah, he's the sole good British poster. I take back what I said about all of them earlier.
Guest Oedipus Rex Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 Culturally, what (if any) is the difference between Northern Ireland and the rest of the island? Most people in Northern Ireland are Protestants who are loyal to the Queen. However, some are Catholics who are loyal to Ireland, and they should just get out and stop killing the Protestants, lousy papist bastards.
Guest Tzar Lysergic Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 What's something extremely British that I should attempt to cook? I've never eaten anything that could be considered "English Food" other that the ubiquitous fish n chips. Is trifle worth a damn?
Guest Oedipus Rex Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 Go north of Hadrian's Wall and fix yourself some haggis.
Guest Tzar Lysergic Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 Fuck that shit. I don't do innards, aside from sausage casing or the occasional liver.
k thx Posted February 20, 2007 Author Report Posted February 20, 2007 Trifles are cool. A hotpot can be nice. Bangers and mash or toad in the hole is okay. Alternatively, just put ketchup on everything.
Slayer Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 Just put ketchup on everything. Czech's Personal Hell
Black Lushus Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 catsup...or is that an American thing?
Guest Oedipus Rex Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 Just put ketchup on everything. Czech's Personal Hell True story. And that's not just limited to my provincial views on hot dogs, I hate it everywhere. Shit's vile.
k thx Posted February 20, 2007 Author Report Posted February 20, 2007 Ketchup rules. You need it with pizza.
Si82 Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 catsup...or is that an American thing? What is "catsup"? It's bugged me ever since it was mentioned in an episode of The Simpsons.
k thx Posted February 20, 2007 Author Report Posted February 20, 2007 Ketchup rules. You need it with pizza. That's fucking repulsive. Or lovely. You need the ketchup to dip the crusts in at least.
k thx Posted February 20, 2007 Author Report Posted February 20, 2007 catsup...or is that an American thing? What is "catsup"? It's bugged me ever since it was mentioned in an episode of The Simpsons. I believe catsup is just an old way of spelling ketchup.
Guest Oedipus Rex Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 What? Where do you get ketchup on a pizza, other than a home for the mentally retarded? That's even worse than dipping it in ranch dressing, and that's pretty disgusting as it is.
Slayer Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 That's even worse than dipping it in ranch dressing, and that's pretty disgusting as it is. I don't even know you anymore
Art Sandusky Posted February 21, 2007 Report Posted February 21, 2007 At Mellow Mushroom we had an option for a Ranch base for your pizza. It was pretty damn good on the specific pizzas for which it was meant.
Red Baron Posted February 21, 2007 Report Posted February 21, 2007 I prefer adding Franks Hot Sauce on Pizza , and pratically almost everything else (within reason) Cricket...
Ginger Snaps Posted February 21, 2007 Report Posted February 21, 2007 Chave is my favorite British poster here. No ketchup on pizza, though.
Prime Time Andrew Doyle Posted February 21, 2007 Report Posted February 21, 2007 Pity the English posters on this board for their inept cricketers dropping the Ashes back to us 5-0.
muzz Posted February 21, 2007 Report Posted February 21, 2007 I wouldn't have ketchup on anything but a meat pie, especially on anything with cheese. I'd say we're fairly inept after losing in NZ.
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