WrestleMania Tourney- Round 3 to determine Sweet 16

[humanoid92 0]

Thanks to everyone who voted and has left their comments in the first two rounds. Here's Round 3. The winners will advance to the sweet sixteen.

 

I'll be back later with some Round 2 analysis.

 

Just to reiterate for those just joining us, the point of this poll is to vote for your favorites. Don't feel pressured to vote for what's widely accepted as best. Stuff like money drawn, buyrates, historical significance, popular opinion, star ratings, clean finishes, do NOT matter whatsoever, unless of course that stuff is important to you when judging your favorites. Be biased... if you despise Warrior vs. Hogan (merely an example) then vote against it and knock it out of the tournament.

 

And again, please don't bold your choices or list them. Simply write down the # of the seeds you're voting for as has been done in the first two rounds. For example, if in the Pontiac Region you vote for seeds #1 and 3, just write:

 

Pontiac: 1, 3

 

And as always, I encourage comments and discussion.

 

Here's Round 3, for the right to advance to the sweet sixteen:

 

Pontiac Region

 

1 Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant (III)

12 Brainbusters vs. Strike Force

 

2 Ultimate Warrior vs. Randy Savage

3 Hulk Hogan vs. Sgt. Slaughter

 

Atlantic City Region

 

1 Hulk Hogan vs. Randy Savage

4 Diesel vs. Shawn Michaels

 

2 Razor Ramon vs. Shawn Michaels

3 Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair

 

Toronto Region

 

1 Ultimate Warrior vs. Hulk Hogan

13 Twin Towers vs. Rockers

 

2 Owen Hart vs. Bret Hart

14 Owen Hart & Yokozuna vs. Smoking Gunns

 

New York City Region

 

1 Ricky Steamboat vs. Randy Savage

5 Lawrence Taylor vs. Bam Bam Bigelow

 

6 Bret Hart vs. Roddy Piper

7 British Bulldogs vs. Dream Team

 

 

Houston Region

 

1 Steve Austin vs. The Rock

4 Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon

 

6 Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho

7 Edge & Christian vs. Hardy Boyz vs. Dudley Boys (2000)

 

Seattle Region

 

1 Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart

12 Shane McMahon vs. X-Pac

 

6 Undertaker vs. Ric Flair

10 Christian vs. Chris Jericho

 

Chicago Region

 

1 Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin

4 Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle

 

2 Chris Benoit vs. HHH vs. Shawn Michaels

6 Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels

 

Anaheim Region

 

1 The Rock vs. Hulk Hogan

5 Edge & Christian vs. Hardy Boyz vs. Dudley Boyz (X-7)

 

2 Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels

3 Brock Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle

[foleyfanforever88 0]

Pontiac: 1,2

Atlantic City: 1,2

Toronto: 1,2

NYC: 1,7

Houston: 1,6

Seattle: 1,10

Chicago: 1,6

Anaheim: 5,3

[J.T. 0]

Pontiac Region

 

12

 

2

 

Atlantic City Region

 

4

 

3

 

Toronto Region

 

13

 

2

 

New York City Region

 

1

 

6

 

Houston Region

 

4

 

6

 

Seattle Region

 

1

 

10

 

Chicago Region

 

1

 

6

 

Anaheim Region

 

5

 

2

[Alro 0]

Pontiac Region

1, 2

 

Atlantic City Region

1, 3

 

Toronto Region

1, 2

 

New York City Region

1, 6

 

Houston Region

1, 6

 

Seattle Region

1, 6

 

Chicago Region

1, 2

 

Anaheim Region

5, 2

[Coffin Surfer 0]

1

3 (Slaugher bumping for a stiff>Savage bumping for a stiff.)

 

Atlantic City Region

 

1

2 (HBK's definitive one man show)

 

Toronto Region

 

1

2

 

New York City Region

 

1

6

 

Houston Region

 

1

6

 

Seattle Region

 

1

6

 

Chicago Region

 

4

6 (Great theatrical performance from HBK, nice that Benoit won and all but HBK/HHH were wanking too much)

 

Anaheim Region

 

1

3

[CanadianChris 0]

Pontiac - 1, 2

AC - 1, 3

Toronto - 1, 2

NYC - 1, 6

Houston - 1, 7

Seattle - 1, 10

Chicago - 1, 2

Anaheim - 5, 3

[El Gigante 0]

Pontiac Region

1

2

 

Atlantic City Region

 

1

2

 

Toronto Region

 

1

2

 

New York City Region

 

1

6

 

 

Houston Region

 

1

7

 

Seattle Region

 

1

10

 

Chicago Region

 

1

6

 

Anaheim Region

 

1

2

[Aero 0]

Pontiac Region

 

1

2

 

Atlantic City Region

 

4

2

 

Toronto Region

 

1

2

 

New York City Region

 

1

6

 

Houston Region

 

1

6

 

Seattle Region

 

12

6

 

Chicago Region

 

1

2

 

Anaheim Region

 

5

3

[haVoc 0]

Pontiac Region

 

1

2

 

Atlantic City Region

 

1

3

 

Toronto Region

 

1

2

 

New York City Region

 

1

6

 

 

Houston Region

 

1

7

 

Seattle Region

 

1

6

 

Chicago Region

 

1

2

 

Anaheim Region

 

5

2

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Pontiac

1, 2

 

Atlantic City

1, 2

 

Toronto

1, 2

 

New York

1, 6

 

Houston

1, 7

 

Seattle

1, 10

 

Chicago

1, 2

 

Anaheim

5, 2

 

Not many upsets here. The only noticeable one is my first #1 seed to go down. Hogan/Rock just isn't as fun as Edge & Christian winning their second Wrestlemania ladder match in a row.

[Guest BlueStang302]

Pontiac Region

 

1, 2

 

 

StrikeForce/Busters was good, but probably could have been better without the Martel heel turn. It basically turned the match into a squash. So I'm going with Hogan-Andre. THE biggest match ever at the time, and you could feel it. Even watching it on the video now, you can feel the hugeness of it. Hogan slamming Andre while 93,000 cameras go off is such a great moment. I don't think even the workrate fans can deny that they get goosebumps for this match.

 

As for the second match, i love Warrior-Savage so it wins easy. MAYBE my favorite match ever.

 

 

 

Atlantic City Region

 

4, 2

 

 

I pick Diesel/Shawn over Hogan/Savage cuz of the unpredictability of it. Did anyone ever really think Savage was going to win? That took alot of the enjoyment out of Hogan matches to me. Which is why I like Hogan-Warrior even though I don't like either wrestler, and I love Hogan-Sid cuz Sid kicks out of the legdrop.

 

Ladder match or Savage/Flair? Wow that's tough. I like the Ladder match alot because it was a hugely entertaining spotfest back before spotfests were commonplace. Flair/Savage was a classic match between two greats with my hero Heenan on commentary. I'm not sure commentary should be included in the evaluation, but it's part of the match in my book. I went with the Ladder match by a hair.

 

Toronto Region

 

1, 2

 

 

Two easy votes in this bracket. I enjoy Towers/Rockers, but I have to vote for Warrior/Hogan. Well put together match that put across both men as being equals. Had a huge feel to it, much like Andre-Hogan 3 years earlier. I'll also take Owen-Bret over Owen's tag title win.

 

 

 

New York City Region

 

1, 7

 

 

I think Savage/Steamboat is a little overrated. But it's clearly better than LT/Bam Bam which is better than it looks on paper but I'm surorised it made it this far.

 

The last pairing is very tough. Hart-Piper was amazing. Dream Team-Bulldogs is one of the best tag matches I've seen, despite Valentine carrying Beefcake's load. It's also one of the few matches I have with the Bulldogs on DVD so I pull it out frequently. I can easily justify either, but I'm more in the mood for the tag match right now so I picked that.

[alfdogg 0]

Pontiac Region

1, 2

 

Atlantic City Region

1, 3

 

Toronto Region

1, 2

 

New York City Region

1, 6

 

Houston Region

1, 7

 

Seattle Region

1, 6

 

Chicago Region

1, 2

 

Anaheim Region

1, 3

[Perfxion 0]

Pontiac Region

 

1

2

 

Atlantic City Region

 

1

2

 

Toronto Region

 

1

 

2

 

New York City Region

 

1

7

 

Houston Region

 

1

7

 

Seattle Region

 

1

6

 

Chicago Region

 

1

2

 

Anaheim Region

 

1

3

[Vern Gagne 0]

Pontiac Region 12, 2,

 

Atlantic City Region 1, 2

 

Toronto Region 1, 2

 

New York City Region 1, 6

 

Houston Region 1, 7

 

Seattle Region 1, 10

 

Chicago Region 1, 2

 

Anaheim Region 5,2

[Si82 0]

Pontiac Region: 12, 2

 

Atlantic City Region: 1, 2

 

Toronto Region: 1, 2

 

New York City Region: 1, 6

 

Houston Region: 1, 6

 

Seattle Region: 12, 10

 

Chicago Region: 1, 2

 

Anaheim Region: 5, 2

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

Pontiac Region

- 1, 2

 

Atlantic City Region

- 1, 3

 

Toronto Region

- 1, 2

 

New York City Region

- 1, 6

 

Houston Region

- 1, 6

 

Seattle Region

- 1, 10

 

Chicago Region

- 1, 2

 

Anaheim Region

- 1, 3

 

The only hard pick was Christian/Jericho against Taker/Flair, the rest were no contests for me.

[Mecha Mummy 0]

Pontiac Region

 

12 Brainbusters vs. Strike Force

2 Ultimate Warrior vs. Randy Savage

 

Atlantic City Region

 

1 Hulk Hogan vs. Randy Savage

2 Razor Ramon vs. Shawn Michaels

 

Toronto Region

 

1 Ultimate Warrior vs. Hulk Hogan

2 Owen Hart vs. Bret Hart

 

New York City Region

 

1 Ricky Steamboat vs. Randy Savage

6 Bret Hart vs. Roddy Piper

 

 

Houston Region

 

1 Steve Austin vs. The Rock

6 Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho

 

Seattle Region

 

12 Shane McMahon vs. X-Pac

10 Christian vs. Chris Jericho

 

Chicago Region

 

1 Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin

2 Chris Benoit vs. HHH vs. Shawn Michaels

 

 

Anaheim Region

 

1 The Rock vs. Hulk Hogan

3 Brock Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle

[caboose 0]

Pontiac Region

 

1 Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant (III)

 

2 Ultimate Warrior vs. Randy Savage

 

 

Atlantic City Region

 

1 Hulk Hogan vs. Randy Savage

 

3 Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair

 

Toronto Region

 

1 Ultimate Warrior vs. Hulk Hogan

 

2 Owen Hart vs. Bret Hart

 

 

New York City Region

 

1 Ricky Steamboat vs. Randy Savage

 

6 Bret Hart vs. Roddy Piper

 

 

 

Houston Region

 

1 Steve Austin vs. The Rock

 

7 Edge & Christian vs. Hardy Boyz vs. Dudley Boys (2000)

 

 

Seattle Region

 

1 Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart

 

6 Undertaker vs. Ric Flair

 

 

Chicago Region

 

1 Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin

 

2 Chris Benoit vs. HHH vs. Shawn Michaels

 

 

Anaheim Region

 

1 The Rock vs. Hulk Hogan

 

2 Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

Pontiac Region

1

2

 

Atlantic City Region

1

2

 

Toronto Region

1

2

 

New York City Region

1

6

 

 

Houston Region

1

6

 

Seattle Region

1

6

 

Chicago Region

1

6

 

Anaheim Region

1

2

[Stephen 0]

Pontiac Region

 

12, 2

 

Atlantic City Region

 

1, 3

 

 

Toronto Region

 

1, 2

 

New York City Region

 

1, 6

 

Houston Region

 

1, 7

 

Seattle Region

 

1, 10

 

Chicago Region

 

1, 2

 

Anaheim Region

 

5, 2

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Pontiac Region

1

2

 

Atlantic City Region

1

2

 

Toronto Region

1

2

 

 

New York City Region

1

6

 

Houston Region

1

6

 

Seattle Region

1

10

 

Chicago Region

1

2

 

Anaheim Region

1

3

[4hartthreat 0]

Pontiac Region

1

2

 

Atlantic City Region

1

3

 

Toronto Region

1

2

 

New York City Region

1

6

 

 

Houston Region

1

6

 

Seattle Region

1

6

 

 

Chicago Region

1

6

 

Anaheim Region

1

3

[humanoid92 0]

I'd like to see this thread make a dent in page 2 before we get to the sweet sixteen... My votes:

 

Pontiac Region

 

1, 2

 

Atlantic City Region

 

3, 4

 

Toronto Region

 

1, 2

 

New York City Region

 

1, 6

 

 

Houston Region

 

4, 6

 

Seattle Region

 

1, 10

 

Chicago Region

 

2, 4

 

Anaheim Region

 

3, 5

[eiker_ir 0]

Pontiac Region: 12, 2

 

 

Atlantic City Region: 1, 3

 

 

Toronto Region: 1, 2

 

 

New York City Region: 1, 6

 

 

Houston Region: 1, 6

 

 

Seattle Region: 1, 10

 

 

Chicago Region: 1, 2

 

 

Anaheim Region: 5, 2

[Guest BlueStang302]

It'll make a 2nd page if you do a recap of the previous round, Humanoid

[humanoid92 0]

Haha, ok, fair enough. By the way, just because I'm writing this recap doesn't mean the voting period is over, so if you're reading this and you didn't vote in Round 3 yet, get on it.

 

Some info on Round 2:

 

- The #1 seed with the most backlash is clearly Rock vs. Hogan. At one point, late in the voting period, it was actually losing to Money in the Bank of all matches. It ended up eeking out the victory by two votes (14-12).

 

- Other than that, the closest matchups were Jericho vs. Christian over Rock vs. Austin (XV) (14-12), Bulldogs vs. Dream Team over Bret vs. Yoko (X) (15-12), Hogan vs. Vince over HHH vs. Owen (15-11), and Austin vs. HBK over Benoit vs. Jericho vs. Angle (15-11).

 

- 20 of the 32 favorites won.

 

- 62 out of the 64 matches received at least one vote. The only favorite that didn't have a single vote against it was Bret vs. Owen. There were two favorites that only had one vote go against them, those being Savage vs. Flair and Savage vs. Steamboat. There were three favorites which only received two votes against them: Razor vs. Shawn, Warrior vs. Savage, and Benoit vs. HHH vs. HBK.

 

- Some of the most lopsided victories were from supposed underdogs:

HBK vs. Jericho over HHH vs. Jericho (26-0). This, and Bret vs. Owen were the only shutouts.

The WM 2000 Ladder match over the WM 2000 main event (24-2).

The WM X-7 TLC over HHH vs. Booker (24-2).

Bret vs. Piper over Savage vs. DiBiase (23-4).

Undertaker vs. Flair over HHH vs. Batista (21-5).

Angle vs. HBK over Cena vs. HHH (21-5).

 

My personal thoughts:

 

- Not a ton of surprises here. In my opinion, two of the best matches are #6 seeds: Bret vs. Piper and Shawn vs. Jericho. The former is one of my favorite matches ever, and the other is my favorite WM match in the last 5 or 6 years. I think HBK vs. Jericho gets a raw deal just because Shawn went over. The bottom line is it was an awesome match, and by that point, I honestly don't think it mattered that Jericho lost. And believe me, I'm a Jericho supporter. There were plenty of wins he deserved more than this one. He was already damaged goods by this point but win or lose this angle actually made him seem important again. I think they botched Jericho from the beginning, maybe more than anyone. But the fact is, Shawn needed that win too. If he jobs all the time to supposedly put new people over, it ceases to matter after awhile since the guy's always losing. See Foley, Mick or Flair, Ric. Once you're not strong anymore, it doesn't matter when someone beats you.

 

- Good job to everyone for voting Christian vs. Jericho over Rock vs. Austin (XV)... I can't stand that WM 15 match.

 

- I'd have liked to have seen Benoit vs. Jericho vs. Angle go over Austin vs. Shawn but I can understand why it didn't. That's gotta be my favorite triple threat match, even though the rules with the two titles are admittedly goofy. I just think they did everything really well in that match.. it's one of the few triple threats I can actually re-watch and not get sick of.

 

- A little surprised Bulldogs vs. Dream Team beat out Bret vs. Yoko (X). If you look at the matches on paper, yeah, it's a ***1/2ish match against maybe a ** match but A) I didn't know anyone supported/remembered anything from WM 2, B) one is ultimately a forgettable match and the other is at least a great moment and one of the best endings to one of the best WMs.

 

- I know HHH vs. Jericho was disappointing but I'd like to think it would have gotten more than 0 votes if it was up against a match other than HBK vs. Jericho.

 

- A surprising amount of people (8) voted for Undertaker vs. Kane (XIV). I will never be surprised by the Iron Man backlash because I've seen so much of it, but I still think it's ridiculous... just like the people that are currently voting for Shane vs. X-Pac over it. I mean, really? I've said from the start that you're spposed to be biased so if you really do hate the Iron Man, you have every right to vote against it. I just don't believe the amount of unfair criticism that match gets.

[Guest BlueStang302]

Nice job, and quick reply too. I agree that there hasn't been too many surprises, although I haven't gone back to analyze each matchup. I'd like to see a few more of the sacred cows lose, but I suppose its unlikely with 20 votes or more. If I were a betting man, my money would be on Bret-Owen winning the whole thing.

 

Any thoughts on a LEAST favorite Wrestlemania poll?

[Chui 0]

Pontiac: 1, 2

 

Atlantic City: 1, 3

 

Toronto: 1, 2

 

New York City: 1, 6

 

Houston: 1, 6

 

Seattle: 1, 10

 

Chicago: 4, 2

 

Anaheim: 5, 3

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

I can't believe all these gimmick matches are getting votes over Rock/Hogan.

[humanoid92 0]

I can understand some of the backlash on Rock/Hogan, but I hear ya.

 

I hope more people vote in this because one match right now is tied. I originally decided the tie would go to the underdog, but I'd rather it not come to that.

 

Stang, I don't know about a least favorite match poll. There's already a thread that did a pretty good job in getting all those matches out there. I think a Summerslam tourney similar to this one would be pretty cool but who knows.