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Ah, but you're thinking in TNA Lockdown terms. Because they haven't said "every match will be an extreme rules match". They've said "Every match will have extreme rules". They used the term" extreme rules" to keep up the association with ECW, but it was planned on being a WCW Uncensored-type show where every match is a gimmick match of sorts, but thankfully, unlike TNA, it's not the same one.

 

aaahhhh, I see.....my bad

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I'm actually looking forward to the show. After the over-reliance on working bodyparts at Judgment Day, it's a relief that there'll be stips to work around to break the... I guess monotony is too strong of a word. Anyway, point is, I'm interested for this one.

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--This is the current One Night Stand line-up:

*John Cena vs. Great Khali in a falls count anywhere match for the title with no submissions allowed

*Edge vs. Batista in a cage match for the Smackdown title

*Vince vs. Bobby Lashley in a street fight for the ECW title

*Hardys vs. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin for Raw tag titles in a ladder match

*Randy Orton vs. Rob Van Dam in a stretcher match

*Melina vs. Candice Michelle in a non-title pudding match

*C.M. Punk & Sandman & Tommy Dreamer vs. Elijah Burke & Marcus Cor Von & Matt Striker in a tables match

*Kane vs. Mark Henry in a lumberjack match

The scheduled but not official match with Chris Benoit vs. MVP was changed yesterday and replaced by Kane vs. Henry. As noted here on a regular basis, decisions change constantly, but as of TV last night, Benoit vs. MVP was pulled from the show.

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Well, that's just really dumb. What does that last match offer? The card is fairly solid except for the final addition. There's at least three better options given the angles going on right now then that one. Carlito-Flair, Benoit-MVP (obviously), and the SD tag titles. Any of those could have easily been given a stipulation to fit the theme.

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MVP winning the title should have been the blow-off to the feud. The fact they're still dragging it on beyond that doesn't really help anyone.

 

Trying not to spoil anything, I don't get why they've taken 'Wrestler A' out of the storyline he had going, especially if it's just for this.

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MVP winning the title should have been the blow-off to the feud. The fact they're still dragging it on beyond that doesn't really help anyone.

 

Trying not to spoil anything, I don't get why they've taken 'Wrestler A' out of the storyline he had going, especially if it's just for this.

 

I gotta disagree. I think the feud is still hot. And when they got time, they put on great matches. Working with Benoit is also a plus on improving MVP who is trying to soak up everything like a sponge.

 

Not to mention I don't think there's any feud they could put MVP in right now that'd be worth killing this one for. After the draft I can see a new one starting though.

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Eh, I'll wait and watch the PPV on WWE 24/7 but so far I'm only interested in Hardyz/WGTT, the ECW tag match and Edge/Batista. I don't think it will be that good a PPV but hopefully I'm wrong.

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- Unless there is a change, Vince McMahon vs. Bobby Lashley for the ECW title will be the final match at the PPV Sunday. In other words, there will be tons of gimmicks, run-ins, smoke and mirrors, etc., and probably a new champion.

 

F4W

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I picked up a copy of the Florida-Times Union today...One Night Stand had a nice visible insert on the front page and a nice spread in the Weekend section....They seemed to put the event over pretty well for those that still wanna pick up remaining tickets....The only errors i saw were that Vince's finsihing move was call "you're fired!" and a picture of Khali giving Jeff Hardy the big boot incorrectly Labeled Jeff Hardy as Edge

 

I had totally forgot that WCW's last PPV ever was in Jacksonville too....Greed or Sin or whatever it was...was like a week before WWF bought WCW...it was at the old Coliseum though...

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I think the Strecher match has a lot of potential as well......well maybe.

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I ordered this show via a webcast, and I figured I'd ask this here:

 

For the bonus matches...do they come with the PPV feed...or do you click them seperately...or what?

 

Just wondering.

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I ordered this show via a webcast, and I figured I'd ask this here:

 

For the bonus matches...do they come with the PPV feed...or do you click them seperately...or what?

 

Just wondering.

 

I assume once you've made your purchase you can watch them anytime...thus the OnDemand portion....or at least that how I've understood for it to work

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I just don't understand why they are buring so many gimicks at one show, the stretcher match, ladder match and steel cage match can all healine seperate ppvs instead of doing them all in one...

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That's kinda like saying why did they bother putting the Last Man Standing match on at Backlash, they already had the fatal-4-way. More matches that people want to see, more reasons for people to buy the show, more money.

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Yeah but given the initial Backlash buyrate (which WWE has already grumbled was disappointing) I don't think loading up these 2nd tier PPVs is adding to revenue thus far. I think these tri brand shows are really opening up Pandora's Box for a variety of reasons:

 

1. They feel the need to load them up with nothing but main event guys, which in turn makes these guys stale 3x faster than it would under the brand exclusive PPVs.

2. Since they put the same guys on the PPVs now and seemingly every world title is always defended there are a lot of guys on the various shows that can't even make a PPV.

3. It will inevitably take away the aura of the Big 4 PPVs where all the brands unite.

4. I doubt these shows draw a bigger buyrate than the brand only PPVs.

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A stretcher match could headline a PPV?

The First WWF house show I went to back in 93 or 94...whenever they were feuding....Lex Lugar vs Crush was the main event and it was a Stretcher Match

 

It's reaching but that's the closest I can think of

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--Notes on One Night Stand tomorrow night:

 

*Cena vs. Khali for WWE title in a falls count anywhere, no submissions allowed - This seems to be build toward Cena winning with an FU. I expect they'll be given more time than they got two weeks ago, which was the shortest WWE PPV main event in a long time because they were scared shitless of the match without gimmicks. This time, with gimmicks, the belief is Cena will be able to keep it together.

 

*Edge vs. Batista for World title in a cage match - I can't imagine Edge losing, nor Batista losing clean. Mark Henry is the best bet to do something with Batista, but with the draft coming, all bets are off. Match was only okay two weeks ago (good last two minutes), and I think they need better than okay for this match to make this a strong card.

 

*Vince McMahon vs. Bobby Lashley for the ECW title in a street fight. Vince hasn't really done anything in the ring this entire program. Perhaps for one night his performance savvy will make up for the lack of physical ability on his size. On paper this isn't a good match, but they'll have every opportunity to use shortcuts here. I'm guessing even though the whole show is extreme rules, that the people on before this match will have things a little toned down to not burn out the crowd.

 

*Rob Van Dam vs. Randy Orton in a stretcher match. It's gone back-and-forth on two options here. Option 1: Orton wins and Van Dam is done after this match. Option 2: Swerve the smart fans who think they know, put RVD over, and have Orton demolish him on TV a week or two later.

 

*Hardys vs. Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas for world tag titles in a ladder match

 

*Mark Henry vs. Kane in a lumberjack match. Their Smackdown match wasn't horrible, but it sure wasn't good and crowd didn't react to it. This is a difficult match.

 

*Melina vs. Candice Michelle in a non-title pudding match. Remember that week where they were going in the new direction with the Divas taking them classy?

 

*Tommy Dreamer & Sandman & C.M. Punk vs. Elijah Burke & Matt Striker & Marcus Cor Von in a tables match

 

This is a hard show to figure ahead of time. The only "sure thing" to me is Hardys vs. Benjamin & Haas will probably be excellent. Most of the other matches, on paper, don't look to be good. But it'll be a show filled with blood and brawling that can make up for a lot. Business-wise, the build-up for Cena-Khali and McMahon-Lashley has been good. Edge-Batista build-up hasn't done a thing for me. The biggest handicap from a business standpoint is coming two weeks after the last show, and also, that kind of suddenly, the promotion has gotten cold.

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I just don't understand why they are buring so many gimicks at one show, the stretcher match, ladder match and steel cage match can all healine seperate ppvs instead of doing them all in one...

It's most likely because when Vince/Steph/HHH/Dunn..whoever else is in charge and calling the show thinks "extreme rules" they think gimmick's galore!

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The WWE needs to learn a serious lesson. They've been putting too much product into a short period of time, and their product is still overexposed right now.

 

Normally, I'd enjoy a Hardy Boys ladder match, even though it'll follow the same formula as every other ladder match they've ever been in, but I actually enjoy feuds that make sense, and have been built up. It's ridiculous that the WGTT challenges the Hardys, and the Hardys make it a ladder match themselves.

 

Here's my predictions:

 

Cena vs. "Great" Khali - They've been building towards a Khali title run, and I think Hogan-esque Cena will drop the title this time. If Cena wins, again, who's his next opponent? If Khali wins, he has a returning HHH to contend with, which, I don't mind at all.

 

Lashley vs. McMahon - I've said this numerous times at various boards, this isn't 1998 anymore, and Lashley isn't Austin. I've never cared about this feud, or Lashley for that matter. Anything other than McMahon getting squashed is an insult to the fanbase, and to Lashley as well. I predict that McMahon will lose, but he'll lose because Shane's interference will backfire. A cheap victory for Lashley over the 60+ year old McMahon who's unable to take bumps anymore.

 

Edge vs. Batista - Edge has to take the victory here, because if he loses, he'll never escape the transitional champion shadow he's been under. Edge needs a long, clean run as champion. I'm betting on some type of interference in this one as well, probably Henry. At least we'll get Kane/Batista vs. Edge/Henry out of it!

 

Hardy Boys vs. WGTT - Yay, another formula ladder match involving the Hardys of all people. This feud is six days old. This will surely be the match of the night, even with it's unoriginal concept and flow.

 

Six man tables match - New Breed will win this one. Dreamer and Sandman will be eliminated early, if it's an elimination bout, leaving Punk to fend for himself. Punk will do all he can to win, but gets cheated in the end.

 

Henry vs. Kane - Another few day old feud, and another PPV loss for Kane. Speaking of which, when was the last time Kane won at a PPV? I cannot remember.

 

Pudding Match - Fantastic idea. Two unattractive women fighting in pudding. Candice wins.

 

RVD vs. Orton - This is likely RVD's last WWE match, so we all know he's going down to the Concussion Maker, Randy Orton. Strecher matches are something of old, and don't really fit in with modern wrestling.

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Im going to the Show tonight...Im expecting a decent evening of Professional Wrestling

 

The Crowd should be nice and lively as well

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I like this card, even if it's slightly overkill from not just the matches itself but the gimmick concept as well.

 

Cena-Khali should perform quite well given the circumstance of the gimmick and Cena's strong point against guys like Khali in this environment. The build has been for Cena to FU Khali and that's what we've come to expect. The JD match was beyond better then it ever had any right to be and that is a testament to Cena and this should be a easier task.

 

Edge-Batista has been a heatless program which is expected from two guys who bring nothing to the table against each other. Edge will keep the title and I'm going to take the safe assumption that Henry doesn't get involved but I'll call for the finish to see Edge missing a spear through the cage door which will once again put Edge over as the lucky bastard and Batista coming inches from victory.

 

Lashley-McMahon, for a program that has gone for months still feels as if it hasn't gone anywhere other the title change and countless 3-1 beat downs. This main events as expected since Lashley is bound for the title change and while this should be a quickie 5 minute squash, shortcut after shortcut will be thrown into this and go longer then it should. It'll live and die by a hot crowd

 

RVD-Orton is a match living around the political nature surrounding the match which is typical of anything with Randy Orton. Match wise, it should be quite solid even if it'll be based around RVD's over-acting sell job. I'd perfer Orton to go over tonight and give RVD a good send-off leaving the door open for him to return in the future.

 

WGTT-Hardys can be a lock for a fun spot match as long as the usual suspects don't have an off day. I could see The Rednecks playing a part in this match, possibly with the accidential spot to transfer the titles onto the WGTT. Either way, this isn't about who wins and loses, it's about the spots. I would rather see a smarter paced wrestling match based around the ladder instead of the usual spot-rest-spot format.

 

Henry-Kane is nothing but a complete clusterfuck waiting to happen. Really serves no purpose other then McMahon's big man fetish. Who goes over, to me is up in the air. Kane has looked strong and I could really see Kane-Edge as a possible program but Henry's looking to stay strong.

 

The tables match, I expect to open the show as it should be a solid hot match built around Punk. Booking should dicate how this goes, but since nothing's been said in regards to the elimination process. I could easily see the finish being Punk having Burke set up for the G2S and Corvon goes for the pounce but misses and crashes through the table instead. Either it'll extend the program building to a Punk-Corvon blow-ff or Punk finishes it all off tonight and they'll set something new up for all involved after the draft.

 

Candice-Melina could have been tolerable in a straight wrestling match and even if they needed a gimmick for this card, it could have been anything else from strap match, bra-panties match even but especially not pudding match. I'll wager Melina winning with Candice getting the redemption win tomorrow night.

 

Once again, the crowd will play a key part in the product tonight because of the constant gimmicks.

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The only thing with the women's match that I can think of is that they felt an Extreme Rules women's match would be upsetting, seeing hot chicks doing blade jobs and what not. Anyway here are my predictions:

 

--Lashley vs. Vince. This shitty nonsense needs to stop immediately. I am beyond being fed up with it and it's doing the exact opposite of what angles like this should do (namely get Lashley over). Jobbing to Vince and Shane in ANY fashion is not condusive to getting over. It'll be overbooked as hell, with a dozen guys running in, but Lashley should get the belt back and hopefully go on to feud with actual wrestlers. Winner: Lashley.

 

--Cena vs. Khali. Can you say booking by numbers? Cena made Khali tap, Khali beat Cena on SNME last night. Obviously Cena hits the FU on Khali and then we can get that epic Khali and Umaga tag team. New Colossal Connection!

Winner: Cena.

 

--Edge vs. Batista. Batista desperately needs to be jobbed out of the main event scene for a while, since it's incredibly tiresome to see the same guy constantly challenging for a belt. That's SD's problem right now though, the show is 90% midcard and hardly any main eventers. Mark Henry or whoever runs in, doesn't really matter but Edge retains. Winner: Edge.

 

--Hardys vs. Haas/Benjamin. I can't see a title change here with basically zero build. It seems tossed onto the card and let's be honest....Haas and Benjamin haven't meant anything as a team since 2003. Hardys will retain here and then maybe Cade/Murdoch can go to SD in the draft and bring over London/Kendrick for a wild program with the Hardys. Winners: Hardys.

 

--Candice vs. Melina. Since it's non title it's obvious Candice wins. Why are they so hesitant to do anything with the women's division? For once they actually DO have some options (Jillian on SD, Beth Phoenix, Katie Lea currently in OVW). Winner: Candice.

 

--Henry vs. Kane. Kane is the designated "impressive jobber" these days when it comes to pushing some fat monster heel. If Henry is going to feud with Batista or maybe move to ECW and challenge Lashley (which SNME hinted at), then Henry will have to win somehow. Winner: Mark Henry.

 

--Punk/Dreamer/Sandman vs. The New Breed. Well, the NB layed Punk out on ECW this week and put him through a table, so I guess the Punk/Originals combo will win here. It's just guys going through tables, so I don't see why it matters either way. Striker will fuck up again and cost the New Breed. Winners: Punk/Sandman/Dreamer.

 

--RVD vs. Orton. Oh joy of all joys. I think anyone who has posted on this board for more than a month knows how I would feel about this match. I know the logic here would dictate Orton laying RVD out and RVD goes out of WWE on a stretcher. But the hell with that idea. I say they hold off and keep Van Dam around another few weeks and he jobs at Vengeance. But do they actually put him over here? I don't know. Know what I think it'll be? Both guys wipe themselves out and both are carried away on stretchers. Result: Draw (though I'd just love to see Orton eat a Van Terminator and be hauled away).

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The only thing with the women's match that I can think of is that they felt an Extreme Rules women's match would be upsetting, seeing hot chicks doing blade jobs and what not. Anyway here are my predictions:

 

Hot girls bleeding is upsetting? It's hardly like it's never been done before and when done properly, it works. Besides, they don't have to bleed to be a real gimmick match.

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so i just bought the ppv. I'm looking forward to the ladder match and the RVD match the most. I'm also somewhat excited for the tables match as it has a lot of potential.

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The only thing with the women's match that I can think of is that they felt an Extreme Rules women's match would be upsetting, seeing hot chicks doing blade jobs and what not. Anyway here are my predictions:

 

Hot girls bleeding is upsetting? It's hardly like it's never been done before and when done properly, it works. Besides, they don't have to bleed to be a real gimmick match.

The Cage match that had Lita vs...I forget who she faced, that happen in Tacoma back I think in 2003 (correct me if i'm wrong) was actually pretty good.

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