Mik 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 I figured I'd start a thread for this since we already have threads for some events taking place at much later time points. This is shaping up to be another great Spike TV card. Here is the lineup as of now... Chris Leben vs. Mike Swick Spencer Fisher vs. Din Thomas Thiago Alves vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka As well as fights with Luke Cummo and "The Emotional Fighter" Nathan Diaz. I'm big into the top 2 just because. I think that since the WEC bout that Swick has progressed much more than Leben and he will win in the 1st TKO by strikes. First glance I figured Fisher easily over Thomas, but Din has been bringing his A game since dropping to 155 and that was a sick armbar he put on Stephens in his last bout. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Din win via sub in the 2nd round. I'm not familiar with Hironaka so I can't comment. And Nathan Diaz via 1st round sub vs. whatever tomato can they give him and hopefully Luke Cummo loss via strikes in 15 seconds to whoever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 Man, there's not too many true cans at 155. I'm thinking that they match Nate up against Gilliam, Varner, Alvin Robinson or Mishima. Cummo's a strange one, but if they stick him in with a wrestler he's gonna be in trouble. He's got surprising power in his strikes. so you can't dismiss him so quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 Nate Diaz vs Joe Lauzon would be a fine and dandy fight to make considering many people had that pegged for the final and Nate himself said during the filming of the show that he wanted to call Joe out. Mik- Have you actually seen the first Leben/Swick fight? Swick drops to his knees more time then a crack whore looking for a hit off a glass dick. Leben tooled him before and unless Swick has developed some Anderson Silva-like ability to punch (which the Okami fight shows he hasn't) then I'm going with Leben again. Interesting note to this fight is that Leben is attempting a cut to 170 to see if he could pull it off but Swick has agreed to meet Chris at whatever weight works best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 I think 170 would be a bad move for Leben as he would probably lose a lot of power at that weight. I agree that Leben is still a bad matchup for Swick, but he has developed as a fighter so I think Swick should pull it off. Leben is no Okami when it comes to, well, anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 UFCJunkie is now saying that Leben is out of the fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2007 The only bit I saw from the first fight is the clip they showed on TUF1, so admittedly not much. My thinking is that Swick advanced as a fighter from the show and afterwards while Leben stayed the same (or even maybe regressed with that loss to Starnes) and that would be enough for Swick to avenge the loss. But I guess it's a moot point now. And Diaz v. Lauzon would be a more than suitable fight for this card. That could be a ppv fight, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2007 Junkie is saying it's Nate vs Junior Assuncao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2007 Ol' Glass Jaw Jonathon Goulet has apparently caught the attention of UFC by rallying for a fight with Swick on Canadian forums and it seems to be working as there are rumors floating about at the moment that UFC is working with both fighters camps to make it happen for this show. So......uh........Swick by KO? Does it even need to be said? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2007 Probably not. Goulet's a 170 version of Leben in terms of fight strategy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2007 And apparently Swick/Goulet at 170 is on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2007 Swick could be a beast at 170. It seems like a makeable weight for him, I wonder why he hasn't done it sooner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2007 Swick could be a beast at 170. It seems like a makeable weight for him, I wonder why he hasn't done it sooner It's probably similar to Brandon Vera, where he simply doesn't want to cut that much weight going into a fight. BTW, we've got Gray Maynard vs Joe Veres and apparently Leben's taking on Terry Martin at UFN 11. Dunno if Leben thinks that's an easier fight or something, but last I checked Martin's been doing pretty darn good at 185, and Leben doesn't have a flying knee in his arsenal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2007 Yeah, Terry Martin looked pretty damn good in his last fight. He was looking a lot more thin and a lot less like Prop Joe. I hope he kills Leben. How can Leben even talk shit or talk tough again after so publicly dodging a fight? And Gray is still saying he wasn't knocked out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2007 I don't see Leben taking either Swick or Martin. He's 1-3 in his last 4 fights, you'd think they'd try and build him up again before giving him someone that can trash him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2007 I think he's on the last fight of his contract, and really, the UFC has gotten about as much as they can out of him. It's pretty obvious at this point that Leben's not going to get any better than he is, and no doubt he's looking to get more than Dana knows he's worth. So I'm thinking that they're trying to line up Martin for a title shot, and beating the paint off Leben's head would give Martin some credibility with the casual fans other than "the guy who got hit with the flying knee. No, that's McCarthy. No, not him either - that's Wiman. The black guy". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2007 Updated card.... Spencer Fisher vs Din Thomas Mike Swick vs Jonathon Goulet Terry Martin vs Chris Leben Nate Diaz vs Junior Assuncao Luke Cummo vs Edilberto Crocota Cole Miller vs Leonard Garcia NATE QUARRY vs Pete Sell II That's right, Nate Quarry. And he's back against Pete Sell. Again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2007 Miller-Garcia. That could be a fun fight. I'd heard that Quarry had undergone surgery last year, so good to hear he's making a comeback. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2007 Sell will beat Quarry this time, their last fight was the biggest BS stoppages I've ever seen in MMA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2007 Yeah, Cole Miller vs. Leonard Garcia is one I hope makes air. I'd like to see Quarry vs. Sell on air, as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2007 Glad to see Nate back. He hasn't done anything in almost 20 UFCs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel_Grace_Blue 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2007 Updated card.... Luke Cummo vs Edilberto Crocota What nationality is presumably Hispanic Dilbert? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2007 Actually, he's Lusitanic (I learned a new word today... yay?). He lost his UFC debut to Paul Taylor in Manchester. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2007 Spencer Fisher OUT due to staph infection. FUCK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2007 And apparently we'll be getting Kenny Florian vs Din Thomas in it's place. Sucks that I won't get me any King on free tv but my Ken-Flo love grows with every fight so I'm happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2007 I think that actually makes this a more important fight. If the title goes vacant, you can probably all but book the winner of this fight into the title shot (hopefully against B.J.). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2007 ROCK BABY, ROCK~! Oh man he's just prolonging his death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2007 Shit, Nate vs. Junior was dope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2007 "Beat 2 Sleep"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2007 Leben is looking good here, evading strikings, circling, clinching, pummeling, and putting it all together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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