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October 2007: Psychos, Sickos, Maniacs, and Monsters

 

All October, WWE 24/7 On Demand presents “Psychos, Sickos, Maniacs and Monsters” – a look at some of the scary, bizarre, strange, crazy and most dangerous Superstars in sports entertainment history.

 

Legends

 

 

WWE Hall of Fame: The Wild Samoans – One of the toughest and most unorthodox tag teams in WWE History, Gene Okerlund looks back at the career of the Wild Samoans. Follow Afa and Sika from their early days in Stampede Wrestling through three (3) Tag Team title reigns in the WWE. Plus, see the Wild Samoans 2007 Hall of Fame induction.

 

 

 

Tombstone: The History of The Undertaker – An extensive look at the most important and spectacular matches in the career of The Undertaker. Presented in six (6) parts, see the Dead Man in legendary battles versus Hulk Hogan, Shawn Michaels, Mankind, Bret Hart, Kane, The Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Triple H, John Cena and many more.

 

 

The Big Ones

 

 

ECW Hardcore Heaven ’97 – An incredible night of extreme action headlined by Sabu, Shane Douglas and Terry Funk battling in a Three Way Dance for the ECW World title. Plus, Tazz defends the ECW TV title versus Chris Candido, Rob Van Dam battles Al Snow and much more.

 

 

 

WWE Badd Blood ’97 – Historic event features 1st Ever Hell in a Cell Match as the “Heartbreak Kid” Shawn Michaels takes on the Undertaker. Bret Hart and the British Bulldog take on Vader and The Patriot in a Flag Match. The Nation of Domination faces the Legion of Doom in a Handicap Match and much more.

 

 

 

WWE Old School – Three (3) classic cards from three historic arenas. At the Boston Garden, Hulk Hogan defends the WWE Championship against the massive King Kong Bundy. In New York at Madison Square Garden, a huge 20 Man Battle Royal features Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, The Undertaker, Sid Justice, Roddy Piper and many more. At the Spectrum in Philadelphia, “King” Harley Race challenges Hulk Hogan for the WWE Championship and George “The Animal” Steele takes on Kamala.

 

 

TV Classics

 

 

The Monday Night War – Two (2) New episodes highlight the battle for Monday Night domination between the WWE and WCW. Raw features fallout from WrestleMania 13 as tensions rise between Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels. Plus, the “Hitman” takes on The Rock for the WWE Intercontinental title. On Nitro, there’s trouble brewing within the nWo. Plus, Chris Jericho takes on Lord Steven Regal. Hosted by Michael Cole.

 

 

 

Championship Wrestling from Florida 11/16/83 – Great action from the NWA’s hottest territory. It’s the legendary matchup known as “The Saddle versus The Belt” as Barry Windham battles Cowboy Ron Bass. Plus, a look at “The Saga of the Family” featuring Dusty Rhodes. Hosted by Mike Graham.

 

 

Shorties

 

 

WWE Superstar Snitsky brings you classic matches featuring some of the most dangerous “Psychos, Sickos, Maniacs and Monsters” in wrestling history. Featured Superstars include Terry Funk, Bruiser Brody, Buzz Sawyer, Abdullah the Butcher, Kane, the Missing Link, Killer Kowalski, Kevin Sullivan, Mad Dog Vachon and more.

 

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Discuss away guys

 

I'm lookin forward to Hardcore Heaven 1997, something different for a change although I am a bit let down there's only 1 Halloween Havoc via PYBO, and it'll be cool to watch the Undertaker DVD again

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I'll go through the Sunflower schedule and post a week by week schedule, unless someone else wants to do it this month.

 

Looking forward to Hardcore Heaven, the 1992 MSG show, and of course The Hart Foundation.

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WWE 24/7 Weekly Schedule for October (courtesty of Sunflower Cable):

 

Week 1 - September 26th - October 2nd:

 

Previews:

 

WWE 24/7 October Preview

Monday Night War Preview - March 31, 1997

MSG Preview - February 23, 1992

Tombstone: The History of the Undertaker (Preview)

Legends:

 

Hall of Fame Profile: The Wild Samoans

Samoan Sika vs Hulk Hogan

Samoans vs Strongbows

Tombstone: The History of the Undertaker (Part 1)

Tombstone: The History of the Undertaker (Part 2)

 

The Big Ones:

 

ECW Hardcore Heaven '97 (2 parts)

WWE One Night Only 1997

Boston Gardens - September 7, 1985 (featuring Hogan vs Bundy)

 

TV Classics:

 

History of ECW - January 7, 1996

Primetime Wrestling - July 20, 1987 (features The Jumping Bomb Angels vs Judy Martin and Lelani Kai and The Young Stallions vs... wait for it... yes, The Shadows!)

 

Shorties:

Abdullah the Butcher vs Bruiser Brody

Kevin Sullivan's Army of Darkness

Sting vs Vampiro (last October, this was the hilarious Graveyard Match. Might be the same this year)

Rick Martel vs Stan Hansen

Steve Austin vs Kane

 

Week 2 - October 3rd - October 9th:

 

Legends:

 

Samoans vs. Dick Murdoch

Wild Samoans MSG Debut

The Big Ones:

 

WWE Great American Bash 2007

 

TV Classics:

 

TNT - February 7, 1986

World Class - January 15, 1982

NWA - December 21, 1985 (which means December 14th is skipped, so hopefully nothing important happens)

Monday Night Wars - March 24, 1997 (Nitro features Randy Savage vs Prince Iukea and Steiners vs Amazing French Canadians while Raw features Ahmed Johnson vs Savio Vega and The Headbangers vs Owen Hart and The British Bulldog).

 

Week 3 - October 10th - October 17th:

 

Legends:

 

Tombstone: The History of the Undertaker (Part 3)

Tombstone: The History of the Undertaker (Part 4)

 

The Big Ones:

 

MSG - February 23, 1992 (features Roddy Piper vs Repo Man for the IC title and a 20 Man Battle Royal featuring Sid Justice, Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Kato, and more!)

 

TV Classics:

 

History of ECW - January 4, 1996 (???)

Primetime Wrestling - July 27, 1987 (features an important Tito Santana vs Don Muraco match and back to back singles action involving the Young Stallions and, of course, The Shadows)

 

Shorties:

 

Buzz Sawyer and Muta

Killer Kowalski

Mad Dog Vachon

Terry and Dory Funk

The Missing Link

Week 4 - October 17th - October 23rd:

 

Legends:

 

Samoans 6 Man Tag

Samoans vs Rick Martel

 

The Big Ones:

 

WWE Badd Blood 1997 (2 parts)

 

TV Classics:

 

CWF - November 16, 1983

NWA - December 28, 1985

Monday Night Wars - March 31, 1997 (Nitro features Steve Regal vs Chris Jericho and Akira Hokuto vs Debbi Combs while Raw features Goldust vs HHH and Rocky Mavia vs Bret Hart along with one of my biggest mark out moments ever)

 

Week 5 - October 24th - October 31st (if this is accurate, it means updates are now on Thursday's after this month):

 

Legends:

Tombstone: The History of the Undertaker (Part 5)

Tombstone: The History of the Undertaker (Part 6)

 

The Big Ones:

 

Philadelphia Spectrum - May 9, 1987 (Being the spring of 1987, I bet you 24/7 fans can figure out what tag team feud of the year is featured on this show. Also featured, Kamala vs George Steele and Hulk Hogan vs Harley Race.

 

TV Classics:

 

TNT - February 14, 1986

 

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Looking forward to the stuff on the Samoans and what looks to be a J-Tex match with the shorty featuring Buzz Sawyer and The Great Muta! The Raws on the MNW should be great with the post Wrestlemania stuff leading into the formation of The Hart Foundation while Nitro enters a COMPLETE dead period as Hogan basically disappears and the company went months without a World Title match on PPV.

 

The NWA show skipping ahead tells me they are itching to get to the formation of the Horsemen at the beginning of 1986.

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I was reading Nitro results trying to find matches to list as featured bouts and that's the best I could come up with. Seriously, Savage vs Iukea main evented? I'm sure if I read a full recap I'd see nWo this and Sting that, but that's not what I'm about.

 

In fairness, I had the same problem with the March 24th Raw (Ahmed vs Savio is the listed main event).

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I was reading Nitro results trying to find matches to list as featured bouts and that's the best I could come up with. Seriously, Savage vs Iukea main evented? I'm sure if I read a full recap I'd see nWo this and Sting that, but that's not what I'm about.

 

In fairness, I had the same problem with the March 24th Raw (Ahmed vs Savio is the listed main event).

 

I'm serious... Nitro is the absolute pits at this point.

 

If I remember correctly, here are the main events for the PPV's coming up:

 

April, Spring Stampede: DDP vs. Savage

May, Slamboree: Hall, Nash, Syxx vs. Kevin Greene, Roddy Piper, and Ric Flair (His return match) - also featured Reggie White vs. Steve McMichael

June: Great American Bash: DDP vs. Savage, again

July: Giant and Luger vs. Hogan and Dennis Rodman

August: Hogwild: Lex Luger defends the World Title he won 6 days earlier against Hogan

September: Fall Brawl: Wargames with Nash, Bagwell, Syxx, and I think Konnan vs. The Horsemen (Hennig's heel turn)

October: Halloween Havoc: Piper vs. Hogan in a cage

November: World War 3: Battle Royale

December: Starrcade: Sting vs. Hogan

 

The WWE countered with:

 

April - Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart, rematch

May - Steve Austin vs. Undertaker

June - King of the Ring Finals, plus if I remember correctly - Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels

July - 10 Man Tag Match featuring The Hart Foundation vs. Austin, L.O.D., Goldust, and Shamrock

August - Bret Hart vs. Undertaker

September - Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker

October - Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker - Hell in the Cell 1

November - Do I need to remind you on this one? :)

December - Shawn Michaels vs. Ken Shamrock

 

So, as I was saying, the Nitros coming up are downright horrible. WCW was definitely in "coasting" mode as they knew Vince couldn't throw anything at them that was going to give them a serious challenge at this point.

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Are there no more Legends of Wrestling shows scheduled?

 

The March 31 Raw might be the show with Bulldog vs. Owen in the rematch with one of the greatest angles in history taking place. I remember taping that show since I watched UK vs. Arizona in the national title game that night.

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Are there no more Legends of Wrestling shows scheduled?

 

Doesn't look like it. I do hope they tape some more in the near future. It was easily the best thing the WWE has produced in a LONG time. I'd like to see some different people on the panel, though. You could get Steamboat, Windham, or any one of the "producers" they have working for them right now in place of Bischoff, who is not under contract anymore. Hell, I'd love to see Dusty back on it only because you know he's good for some great storytelling. Now that I think about it... I wish Jim Cornette was still with the company because he would be incredible on a show like this.

 

I'd love to see them tackle topics like they did with the Monday Night Wars. They could talk about the Montreal Screwjob (They alluded to it in the MNW episode), territory days (You know Lawler and Ross have a wealth of stories from their experiences), among other things.

 

Still, I'd even like it if they did another series on individual stars. The Iron Sheik/Andre the Giant episode was my favorite roundtable besides the MNW episode.

 

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Are there no more Legends of Wrestling shows scheduled?

 

The March 31 Raw might be the show with Bulldog vs. Owen in the rematch with one of the greatest angles in history taking place. I remember taping that show since I watched UK vs. Arizona in the national title game that night.

 

It is, and I alluded to that in my month preview.

 

Also - Sting vs Vampiro is NOT a Graveyard match repeat this year. It's the Torch Match!

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Sting/Vampiro is too much. I really can't stand Scott Hudson on these late WCW shows. Just shut the fuck up and call the match; he's worse than Mark Madden.

 

His little Hogan joke was the least funniest thing I've heard.

 

They update my 24/7 early, btw.

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Is anyone else besides me a little dissapointed that there is no sign of ANY Halloween Havoc events for OCtober? I was hoping they'd have one of those at some point next month.

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Is anyone else besides me a little dissapointed that there is no sign of ANY Halloween Havoc events for OCtober? I was hoping they'd have one of those at some point next month.

 

I believe the Choose Your Big One poll on WWE.com was among 3 Halloween Havoc events (I want to say '89, '91, and '92). So at least one Halloween Havoc should be on 24/7 this month.

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I'm kind of disappointed by this lineup. I guess having 24/7 since 2005 does that since they do play a lot of the same stuff per month. I was hoping for Halloween Havoc 93 so I can finally see that opening segment that sounds so terrible it's awesome with Tony Schiavone turning into a werewolf or something goofy that I read about. I hope Havoc 89 wins the poll.

 

Brody/Abby was pretty fun though. And that Sting/Vampiro Torch match is probably one of the worst matches I've ever seen in the best possible way ever. Total Kennel From Hell vibe. The ECW show has a fun Raven/Dreamer match with a nice video package detailing the feud up until that point. The Boston Garden show sounds terrible with Hogan/Bundy being the only match that I might check out since I've enjoyed all of their matches I've seen so far for some reason.

 

 

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I like the Snitsky intros to the Shorties. Sting vs Vampiro was priceless in terms of how laughably awful it was with all the "lightning" and what not. Hansen vs Martel was a nice little brawl too.

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Is Hansen/Martel just that lame thing from Comiskey or is it the actual AWA title change?

 

I am hoping HH 89 wins that poll since I already got both the 1991 and 92 shows off 24/7. As far as the Sting/Vampiro crap goes, I get the feeling Russo might try something similar in TNA with this Judas Macias dude.

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Are there no more Legends of Wrestling shows scheduled?

 

The March 31 Raw might be the show with Bulldog vs. Owen in the rematch with one of the greatest angles in history taking place. I remember taping that show since I watched UK vs. Arizona in the national title game that night.

 

Just saw this on Jim Ross' latest blog:

 

"This Thursday I am leaving for the WWE TV studios in Connecticut via New York City to tape a few WWE 24/7 broadcasts, featuring the “Legends Roundtable.” I always enjoy being a part of this particular production. From what I can tell, our fans enjoy the Roundtable discussions too."

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Just watched the Angels-Kai/Martin matchup. Watching various WWE shows from 1985-86, it was apparent that the company constantly tried to find a replacement for Wendi Richter. Lisa Sliwa, Candice Pardue, Velvet McIntyre, etc. The Jumping Bomb Angels were OVER.

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I'm kind of disappointed by this lineup. I guess having 24/7 since 2005 does that since they do play a lot of the same stuff per month. I was hoping for Halloween Havoc 93 so I can finally see that opening segment that sounds so terrible it's awesome with Tony Schiavone turning into a werewolf or something goofy that I read about. I hope Havoc 89 wins the poll.

 

Brody/Abby was pretty fun though. And that Sting/Vampiro Torch match is probably one of the worst matches I've ever seen in the best possible way ever. Total Kennel From Hell vibe. The ECW show has a fun Raven/Dreamer match with a nice video package detailing the feud up until that point. The Boston Garden show sounds terrible with Hogan/Bundy being the only match that I might check out since I've enjoyed all of their matches I've seen so far for some reason.

 

 

Brody/Abdullah was fun, but wassup with Fritz Von Erich pulling off the superman act. First he knocks out Abby for the Brody pin, and then he destroys both Abby and Gary Hart after the match. Give me a break.

 

 

I'm watching Hardcore Heaven 97 and its fun so far, but oh boy that finsh to Taz vs. Candido is just awful. Just so corny.

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Brody/Abdullah was fun, but wassup with Fritz Von Erich pulling off the superman act. First he knocks out Abby for the Brody pin, and then he destroys both Abby and Gary Hart after the match. Give me a break.

 

At least he had a foreign object.

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I'm kind of disappointed by this lineup. I guess having 24/7 since 2005 does that since they do play a lot of the same stuff per month. I was hoping for Halloween Havoc 93 so I can finally see that opening segment that sounds so terrible it's awesome with Tony Schiavone turning into a werewolf or something goofy that I read about. I hope Havoc 89 wins the poll.

 

Brody/Abby was pretty fun though. And that Sting/Vampiro Torch match is probably one of the worst matches I've ever seen in the best possible way ever. Total Kennel From Hell vibe. The ECW show has a fun Raven/Dreamer match with a nice video package detailing the feud up until that point. The Boston Garden show sounds terrible with Hogan/Bundy being the only match that I might check out since I've enjoyed all of their matches I've seen so far for some reason.

 

 

Brody/Abdullah was fun, but wassup with Fritz Von Erich pulling off the superman act. First he knocks out Abby for the Brody pin, and then he destroys both Abby and Gary Hart after the match. Give me a break.

That's World Class for ya.

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I have come to the conclusion that WCCW cage matches suck. They all have refs trying to enforce rules and crap....who wants shit like that in a cage match? It's like they thought Gene Kiniski's involvement as ref at Starrcade 83 in the Flair/Race cage match was a GOOD idea.

 

HH 97 was a fun show but like quite a few ECW PPVs it simply runs out of gas at the end. I enjoyed the first half of the show quite a bit, but it started waning around the time the goofy USWA interpromotional matches started (PG-13, Lawler). I thought it was quite bizarre that Sabu was the champion going into the show and they really didn't mention him winning the belt all that much in the barbed wire match. As in Douglas had an obviously huge advantage going against two guys who damn near killed each other a week earlier!

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I'm watching Tombstone Part 1 right now. I wouldn't buy this DVD when it came out but I have no problem watching a bunch of Taker matches on 24/7. I do like how it doesn't go right to a match (like I thought it did), it has this intro - which I'm watching now - going over the introduction of the character, complete with Brother Love handing him over to Paul Bearer.

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I was reading an old review of Nitro to see what Benoit-related stuff was removed from the 3/17/97 ep, and the main event was intro'd by Michael Buffer.

 

I'm not surprised that WWE cut out that footage since Buffer owns the TM on his spiel, and in and of itself it's not much, but it just seems to fit in with WWE's "let's change things to save money instead of presenting an accurate depiction of history" mentality.

 

And watching the old Nitro's, one thing that stands out as decidedly "WCW" is the replay of the entrances in slow motion after the match. Also "only in WCW" was the practice of wrestlers cutting out-of-breath promos right into the camera after the end of a match, where more often than not they say stuff that tends to make them sound slow on the mic and not very creative.

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