Hierarchy of Worst Owners in Sports

[Guest Gym Class Fallout]

As for the topic. I don't its fair that people like Jerry Buss, Frank McCourt or Jerry Reinsdorf are considered bad owners. All have had sucess with their respective teams. Buss and Reinsdorf and suffered through bad seasons, but does that make them bad?

 

Collusion, extortion, and engineering the '94 strike makes Reinsdorf bad.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

As for the topic. I don't its fair that people like Jerry Buss, Frank McCourt or Jerry Reinsdorf are considered bad owners. All have had sucess with their respective teams. Buss and Reinsdorf and suffered through bad seasons, but does that make them bad? Is Bob Kraft a bad owner because the Pats had some tough times in the past? Maybe unpopular at times, but not bad by any means. To me a bad owner is a person that doesnt invest in the team and has no interest in winning to me these are the worst of the worst:

 

Reinsdorf was one of the hawks among the owners that invited the 1994 strike and made it such a travesty. For that he ranks among the worst.

[JaMarcus Russell's #1 Caucasian Fan 0]

As for the topic. I don't its fair that people like Jerry Buss, Frank McCourt or Jerry Reinsdorf are considered bad owners. All have had sucess with their respective teams. Buss and Reinsdorf and suffered through bad seasons, but does that make them bad? Is Bob Kraft a bad owner because the Pats had some tough times in the past? Maybe unpopular at times, but not bad by any means. To me a bad owner is a person that doesnt invest in the team and has no interest in winning to me these are the worst of the worst:

 

Reinsdorf was one of the hawks among the owners that invited the 1994 strike and made it such a travesty. For that he ranks among the worst.

 

Point taken . Well, to follow up, not looking at his involvment in the baseball strike, is he still the worst ever? He is not the best owners but I wouldnt personally but him among thw worst.

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As for the topic. I don't its fair that people like Jerry Buss, Frank McCourt or Jerry Reinsdorf are considered bad owners. All have had sucess with their respective teams. Buss and Reinsdorf and suffered through bad seasons, but does that make them bad? Is Bob Kraft a bad owner because the Pats had some tough times in the past? Maybe unpopular at times, but not bad by any means. To me a bad owner is a person that doesnt invest in the team and has no interest in winning to me these are the worst of the worst:

 

Reinsdorf was one of the hawks among the owners that invited the 1994 strike and made it such a travesty. For that he ranks among the worst.

 

Point taken . Well, to follow up, not looking at his involvment in the baseball strike, is he still the worst ever? He is not the best owners but I wouldnt personally but him among thw worst.

 

Outside the strike maybe not, but you can't exclude the strike. It was awful and hurt the league really badly.

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As for the topic. I don't its fair that people like Jerry Buss, Frank McCourt or Jerry Reinsdorf are considered bad owners. All have had sucess with their respective teams. Buss and Reinsdorf and suffered through bad seasons, but does that make them bad? Is Bob Kraft a bad owner because the Pats had some tough times in the past? Maybe unpopular at times, but not bad by any means. To me a bad owner is a person that doesnt invest in the team and has no interest in winning to me these are the worst of the worst:

 

Reinsdorf was one of the hawks among the owners that invited the 1994 strike and made it such a travesty. For that he ranks among the worst.

 

Point taken . Well, to follow up, not looking at his involvment in the baseball strike, is he still the worst ever? He is not the best owners but I wouldnt personally but him among thw worst.

Outside of labor issues, he ranks average. Leaning towards thumbs down for gainfully employing Hawk Harrelson.

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To most Yankee haters, and even Yankee fans (don't forget he pretty much ruined the Yanks from 82 to his suspension because he pretty much had free reign and didn't really have a soild baseball guy telling him no) he probably should be listed among the worse.

 

-Being the reason for "The Evil Empire"

-Being a liar, cheater, and all around egotistical piece of turd

-Don't forget he was suspended in the 70s for using funds to illegaly fund Nixon's campaign or something like that

-Essentially he is the Vince McMahon...check that, Mr. McMahon (he's more like the character version of Vince than the real Vince) of MLB

 

Believe me, there will be many people who will be overjoyed and poping champange bottles when he finally passes.

I was hoping someone would bring up Steinbrenner and the "evil empire." Why is it the evil empire? Because he spends money on a team? Because he ultimately wants above all else to put a winning team on the field every year? Oh, wait, it's because they buy their championships. Right, they have so much more money then every other owner in all of sports and their holding fair competition hostage.

 

I am sick and fucking tired of this played out out, tired, ignorant argument made by Yankee haters. Look, owners of sports teams should accomplish two things -- not lose money and put together a winning team. Other owners could spend as much on their players, but they don't. Why? It's not because they don't have the money. Oh no. They choose not to lose money, which is what Steinbrenner does in his zeal to win. Have you ever heard of an owner getting rich buy investing in a team? Look at the people who have bought teams. People who have already made their money. Steinbrenner is hated because he spends way more on his team than other owners? Steinbrenner is doing what other teams should do to win. But what people don't understand is that the discrepancy between how much the Yankees "make" and other mlb teams is not that much. Other owners CHOOSE not to spend that money on putting a championship team together.

 

So, there really is no "evil empire."

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Until recently, Jerry Buss would find his way into that best owners list. Not now.

 

As for worst, I can't believe nobody mentioned Al Davis. The guy held up two cities for cash, and he'll be doing the same thing AGAIN to Oakland in a few years. The guy is responsible for getting the NFL out of Los Angeles and I hope he dies a horrible death.

 

Al Davis history with the Raiders automatically disquailfies him from the worst owner ever. Aside from 3 Super Bowl wins, numerous division titles and numerous playoff apperances. At one time the Raiders were the winningest team is pro football. Al Davis also hired the first Latino and African American head coaches in NFL history (Art Shell and Tom Flores). I mean the man is pretty is the face of the Raider francise. Now I know the Raiders are ass now but overall Al Davis was at one the point one the best owners in football. But Im a diehard Raider fan so what do I know!

 

As for the topic. I don't its fair that people like Jerry Buss, Frank McCourt or Jerry Reinsdorf are considered bad owners. All have had sucess with their respective teams. Buss and Reinsdorf and suffered through bad seasons, but does that make them bad? Is Bob Kraft a bad owner because the Pats had some tough times in the past? Maybe unpopular at times, but not bad by any means. To me a bad owner is a person that doesnt invest in the team and has no interest in winning to me these are the worst of the worst:

 

MLB:

Jeffery Loria-Marlins

Peter Angelos-Orioles

Bud Selig when he owned the Brewers

 

NFL-

The Brown Family- Still one of the worst but made some strides this decade.

Ralph Wilson

Bill Bidwell

 

NBA

The investors who own the Atlanta Hawks- Atlanta Spirt

Donald K. Sterling

Seattle Sonics ownership- Professional Basketball Club

 

NHL-

Bill Witrz

Phillip Ansultz

James Dolan

 

The Best:

 

NFL

Bob Kraft

Dan Rooney

Jerry Jones- meandering and nosey, but put together a winning team in the 90s and is building one now.

 

NBA-

Mark Cuban

Jerry Buss until 2004

 

MLB-

John Henry

George Steinbrenner

Arte Moreno

 

NHL-

Since the lockout I couldnt really say.

Two new ones that just crossed my mind.

 

Tom Benson of the Saints- Saints have had recent sucess, but its hard to forget the sparse crowds at the Superdome and the paper bag heads. His handling of the team after Katrina was very unfortunate.

 

George Shin of the Hornets. Had an ugly departure from Charlotte.

[Guest Gym Class Fallout]

Minus the whole sabotage of the Montreal Expos, Jeffrey Loria isn't really that bad. It's just a matter of perspective, you know.

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Bud Selig when he owned the Brewers

 

Bud wasn't nearly as bad as his daughter.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

I am sick and fucking tired of this played out out, tired, ignorant argument made by Yankee haters. Look, owners of sports teams should accomplish two things -- not lose money and put together a winning team. Other owners could spend as much on their players, but they don't. Why? It's not because they don't have the money. Oh no. They choose not to lose money, which is what Steinbrenner does in his zeal to win. Have you ever heard of an owner getting rich buy investing in a team? Look at the people who have bought teams. People who have already made their money. Steinbrenner is hated because he spends way more on his team than other owners? Steinbrenner is doing what other teams should do to win. But what people don't understand is that the discrepancy between how much the Yankees "make" and other mlb teams is not that much. Other owners CHOOSE not to spend that money on putting a championship team together.

 

I can put together a good list of reasons Steinbrenner was a bad owner without once bringing up money.

[hyperchord24 0]

I am sick and fucking tired of this played out out, tired, ignorant argument made by Yankee haters. Look, owners of sports teams should accomplish two things -- not lose money and put together a winning team. Other owners could spend as much on their players, but they don't. Why? It's not because they don't have the money. Oh no. They choose not to lose money, which is what Steinbrenner does in his zeal to win. Have you ever heard of an owner getting rich buy investing in a team? Look at the people who have bought teams. People who have already made their money. Steinbrenner is hated because he spends way more on his team than other owners? Steinbrenner is doing what other teams should do to win. But what people don't understand is that the discrepancy between how much the Yankees "make" and other mlb teams is not that much. Other owners CHOOSE not to spend that money on putting a championship team together.

 

I can put together a good list of reasons Steinbrenner was a bad owner without once bringing up money.

Oh, that's fine. I'm not saying he's a saint. But SJR brought up the whole "evil empire" thing and I hate it when people bring that up when talking about the Yankees.

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I am sick and fucking tired of this played out out, tired, ignorant argument made by Yankee haters. Look, owners of sports teams should accomplish two things -- not lose money and put together a winning team. Other owners could spend as much on their players, but they don't. Why? It's not because they don't have the money. Oh no. They choose not to lose money, which is what Steinbrenner does in his zeal to win. Have you ever heard of an owner getting rich buy investing in a team? Look at the people who have bought teams. People who have already made their money. Steinbrenner is hated because he spends way more on his team than other owners? Steinbrenner is doing what other teams should do to win. But what people don't understand is that the discrepancy between how much the Yankees "make" and other mlb teams is not that much. Other owners CHOOSE not to spend that money on putting a championship team together.

 

I can put together a good list of reasons Steinbrenner was a bad owner without once bringing up money.

Oh, that's fine. I'm not saying he's a saint. But SJR brought up the whole "evil empire" thing and I hate it when people bring that up when talking about the Yankees.

Well they are. There is nothing dishonest about it, they built a successful team and they've become the biggest team in baseball. Sometimes sports needs a villian, and the Yankees fill that role. The happiest baseball moments of my life all involve Yankee losses, and the worst involve Yankee wins.

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Minus the whole sabotage of the Montreal Expos, Jeffrey Loria isn't really that bad. It's just a matter of perspective, you know.

Signing Carlos Delgado to a $50 million dollar contract, then crying poor, trying to get funds to build a new stadium.

[hyperchord24 0]

I am sick and fucking tired of this played out out, tired, ignorant argument made by Yankee haters. Look, owners of sports teams should accomplish two things -- not lose money and put together a winning team. Other owners could spend as much on their players, but they don't. Why? It's not because they don't have the money. Oh no. They choose not to lose money, which is what Steinbrenner does in his zeal to win. Have you ever heard of an owner getting rich buy investing in a team? Look at the people who have bought teams. People who have already made their money. Steinbrenner is hated because he spends way more on his team than other owners? Steinbrenner is doing what other teams should do to win. But what people don't understand is that the discrepancy between how much the Yankees "make" and other mlb teams is not that much. Other owners CHOOSE not to spend that money on putting a championship team together.

 

I can put together a good list of reasons Steinbrenner was a bad owner without once bringing up money.

Oh, that's fine. I'm not saying he's a saint. But SJR brought up the whole "evil empire" thing and I hate it when people bring that up when talking about the Yankees.

Well they are. There is nothing dishonest about it, they built a successful team and they've become the biggest team in baseball. Sometimes sports needs a villian, and the Yankees fill that role. The happiest baseball moments of my life all involve Yankee losses, and the worst involve Yankee wins.

I really want to say "if you look at things objectively, you'll see that you should hate your favorite team for not doing what Steinbrenner does," but then again, your correct observation that sports need villians shows that you can't really be objective.

 

EDIT: It's still not a rational way to argue that he's a bad owner. There are other reasons, though.

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

I think the Ducks new owners are are pretty good.

 

Old Ducks and Angel fans would probably hate Disney/Michael Eisner. Although Disney did win the World Series in their last year of ownership.

 

William Davidson owns the Tampa Bay Lightning, the Detroit Pistons and their WNBA equivalent. He has to be a good owner.

[Guest NYankees]

I am sick and fucking tired of this played out out, tired, ignorant argument made by Yankee haters. Look, owners of sports teams should accomplish two things -- not lose money and put together a winning team. Other owners could spend as much on their players, but they don't. Why? It's not because they don't have the money. Oh no. They choose not to lose money, which is what Steinbrenner does in his zeal to win. Have you ever heard of an owner getting rich buy investing in a team? Look at the people who have bought teams. People who have already made their money. Steinbrenner is hated because he spends way more on his team than other owners? Steinbrenner is doing what other teams should do to win. But what people don't understand is that the discrepancy between how much the Yankees "make" and other mlb teams is not that much. Other owners CHOOSE not to spend that money on putting a championship team together.

 

I can put together a good list of reasons Steinbrenner was a bad owner without once bringing up money.

Oh, that's fine. I'm not saying he's a saint. But SJR brought up the whole "evil empire" thing and I hate it when people bring that up when talking about the Yankees.

Well they are. There is nothing dishonest about it, they built a successful team and they've become the biggest team in baseball. Sometimes sports needs a villian, and the Yankees fill that role. The happiest baseball moments of my life all involve Yankee losses, and the worst involve Yankee wins.

 

That is pretty pathetic that you the only thing you can get off to is a baseball team losing a game. Does your life suck that much? It must really be hard being a Phillies fan and seeing Joe Carter's homerun all of the time.

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That is pretty pathetic that you the only thing you can get off to is a baseball team losing a game. Does your life suck that much? It must really be hard being a Phillies fan and seeing Joe Carter's homerun all of the time.

 

And vice versa. No, it's not hard watching Joe Carter's home run with the sole exception being that obnoxious blowhard Bob Costas making the call. And you'll notice I said baseball memory, not life memory.

[Guest Gym Class Fallout]

nigga please.

[Guest]

I think the Ducks new owners are are pretty good.

 

Old Ducks and Angel fans would probably hate Disney/Michael Eisner. Although Disney did win the World Series in their last year of ownership.

 

William Davidson owns the Tampa Bay Lightning, the Detroit Pistons and their WNBA equivalent. He has to be a good owner.

He sold the Lightning.

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And vice versa. No, it's not hard watching Joe Carter's home run with the sole exception being that obnoxious blowhard Bob Costas making the call

 

Wasn't that Sean Mcdonough that made the call?

[CanadianChris 0]

And vice versa. No, it's not hard watching Joe Carter's home run with the sole exception being that obnoxious blowhard Bob Costas making the call

 

Wasn't that Sean Mcdonough that made the call?

Yes, it was. That was the last baseball game televised by CBS.

[CanadianChris 0]

I am sick and fucking tired of this played out out, tired, ignorant argument made by Yankee haters. Look, owners of sports teams should accomplish two things -- not lose money and put together a winning team. Other owners could spend as much on their players, but they don't. Why? It's not because they don't have the money. Oh no. They choose not to lose money, which is what Steinbrenner does in his zeal to win. Have you ever heard of an owner getting rich buy investing in a team? Look at the people who have bought teams. People who have already made their money. Steinbrenner is hated because he spends way more on his team than other owners? Steinbrenner is doing what other teams should do to win. But what people don't understand is that the discrepancy between how much the Yankees "make" and other mlb teams is not that much. Other owners CHOOSE not to spend that money on putting a championship team together.

 

So, there really is no "evil empire."

Are you serious? Steinbrenner turns a profit on the Yankees, even with the gigantic payroll. He's among the very few owners able to do so.

 

I don't think Steinbrenner is one of the worst owners in sports, but don't make it sound as if he's nobly sacrificing millions of his own dollars to try and bring a winner to New York.

[hyperchord24 0]

I am sick and fucking tired of this played out out, tired, ignorant argument made by Yankee haters. Look, owners of sports teams should accomplish two things -- not lose money and put together a winning team. Other owners could spend as much on their players, but they don't. Why? It's not because they don't have the money. Oh no. They choose not to lose money, which is what Steinbrenner does in his zeal to win. Have you ever heard of an owner getting rich buy investing in a team? Look at the people who have bought teams. People who have already made their money. Steinbrenner is hated because he spends way more on his team than other owners? Steinbrenner is doing what other teams should do to win. But what people don't understand is that the discrepancy between how much the Yankees "make" and other mlb teams is not that much. Other owners CHOOSE not to spend that money on putting a championship team together.

 

So, there really is no "evil empire."

Are you serious? Steinbrenner turns a profit on the Yankees, even with the gigantic payroll. He's among the very few owners able to do so.

 

I don't think Steinbrenner is one of the worst owners in sports, but don't make it sound as if he's nobly sacrificing millions of his own dollars to try and bring a winner to New York.

You're right. I don't know the profit margins for any mlb team, but my point was other teams have the money, they just don't use it to make a better team.

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Ford has owned the Lions since 1964 with zero notable successes....he has to be hands down the worst...no one has the longevity, the embarrassments, the non championships as he does. At least Ralph Wilson has made it to 4 super bowls.

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Not to mention he seems to be fully incapable of firing one Matthew George Millen.

[MrRant 0]

I'm still awaiting an answer on the Paul Allen one.

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

I'm still awaiting an answer on the Paul Allen one.

 

 

Paul Allen owns both teams. I'm not sure what your question was.

[MrRant 0]

True but wouldn't you say his ownership of the Seahawks has been pretty good? He definitely has had the wrong people in place for the Blazers and the whole Rosegarden stuff doesn't relect too well either.

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True but wouldn't you say his ownership of the Seahawks has been pretty good? He definitely has had the wrong people in place for the Blazers and the whole Rosegarden stuff doesn't relect too well either.

 

 

I think there have been missteps along the way, but he's a strong owner overall. He invests heavily into the on-field product and has hired competent people in the front office.

 

With the exception of the Jailblazer years, Portland has been a model franchise during his time as owner. They had two finals appearances, numerous sellouts, the longest playoff streak in history and got a new stadium constructed.

 

The Seahawks have been consistently good for the past 5 years or so and he got the city to build them a premier stadium. The Hawks were nothing before he arrived and were on the verge of being moved to LA.

[MrRant 0]

You know what? I read your post wrong and thought you meant he was one of the worst.

 

My bad yo.