Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2007 October 5th, 1997 marked the debut of Kane, and the Hell in a Cell match at Bad Blood. Happy anniversary to both things. Discuss your best memories of the most demonic wrestler in sports-entertainment history, and the most demonic structure in sports-entertainment history! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2007 October 5th, 1997 marked the debut of Kane, and the Hell in a Cell match at Bad Blood. Happy anniversary to both things. Discuss your best memories of the most demonic wrestler in sports-entertainment history, and the most demonic structure in sports-entertainment history! 10 years since... and the 1st Hell in the Cell is still probably the best match in the series. Granted, the 2nd is pretty memorable as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2007 In regards to Kane, I can't decide whether to give the guy props or just be baffled that he is actually still around 10 years later. I figured he would hang around and put over UT and then vanish like so many giant jobbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2007 "Granted, the 2nd" Actually, the 2nd HIAC Match is Steve Austin & The Undertaker Vs. Kane & Mankind from Raw is War. The week before KOTR '98. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2007 A very forgettable match UTSU, was that where Taker was in the cage with Bearer with Kane trying to get in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted October 7, 2007 I love Kane. He's certainly not the best worker in the world, but I've always found him entertaining, and he's probably my favorite "big man" wrestler ever. It's a crying shame he's never been the champ for more than his 1 day Russo reign, and yes I'm still pissed about No Mercy 2002. I still enjoy Kane to this day, but I prefer suited and masked Kane to unmasked shirtless Kane. The voicebox was pretty cool too. Some Kaneage: Kane-a-roonie Kane, The Rock, and Hulk Hogan Kane's one world title Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2007 "was that where Taker was in the cage with Bearer with Kane trying to get in?" Stunner to Kane on top of the cage by Austin! Followed by lots of chairshots! Mankind gets launched into the cage down the ramp while on a stretcher. Yeah, Taker sneaks in and pummels Bearer to a bluddy pulp. Man, what a hot time for Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foleyfanforever88 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2007 I love Kane too. He's always been good as a big man and is definitely one of the best ever. He really does deserve another title run. After all the shit he's been through, all the stupid angles, he still remains one of the most consistently over guys in the company. That says something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2007 Ah, memories of Steve Austin and Kane putting (Kane's father) Paul Bearer down a drain. And also, (I think) Kane turning his back allowing Taker to beat up Bearer (or vice-verca) Good old Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianGuitarist 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2007 "was that where Taker was in the cage with Bearer with Kane trying to get in?" Stunner to Kane on top of the cage by Austin! Followed by lots of chairshots! Mankind gets launched into the cage down the ramp while on a stretcher. Yeah, Taker sneaks in and pummels Bearer to a bluddy pulp. Man, what a hot time for Raw. It was a forgettable match, as said earlier, because the match never even started. I'd go so far as to call it one of my two or three favourite Raws ever. Here you go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonddust 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2007 "Granted, the 2nd" Actually, the 2nd HIAC Match is Steve Austin & The Undertaker Vs. Kane & Mankind from Raw is War. The week before KOTR '98. You're right... I couldn't remember if that happened the week before KOTR or the night after. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2007 To be fair, on that RAW, I think they billed it as a sort of "Hell in the Cell preview", rather than an actual match. Kind of tricky, but I don't think they ever said it would be an actual in-ring contest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2007 I used to use that HIAC technicality when I was a ref (question asker) in an IRC trivia league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2007 The first Hell in a Cell is still my favorite match ever. What a fantastic bout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the_last_rites Report post Posted October 8, 2007 Other Kane moments The coffee spilling Royal Rumble Tour De Force Pete F'n Rose (all three versions v98, v99, v2000) Kane and Taker double pin on Austin Asking i believe the Corporate Ministry ( or Taker I am not really sure) to shove it with the appropriate hand gesture. I remember it got a huge pop Brothers of Destruction vignettes Kane dressed as Taker assaulting Austin Kane/Mankind Love-Hate tag team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2007 Those Kane and Taker attacks on Austin when they'd dress as each other were cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2007 The sad thing is, that I don't think there's much point to Kane being in WWE anymore. He's done basically everything he can, aside from an extended World Title reign, which probably won't happen. I wonder how close Glen Jacobs is to retirement at this point, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the_last_rites Report post Posted October 8, 2007 The sad thing is, that I don't think there's much point to Kane being in WWE anymore. He's done basically everything he can, aside from an extended World Title reign, which probably won't happen. I wonder how close Glen Jacobs is to retirement at this point, anyway. pretty close i'm assuming considering the fact that he once threatened to walk out in Jan this year because of the shitty angles the creative offered. I for one think its salvageable. They should just have something happen that triggers the psycho in him and he should go on a rampage. We can have the commentators put over how the monster in him has resurfaced or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theintensifier 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2007 Discuss your best memories of the most demonic wrestler in sports-entertainment history, and the most demonic structure in sports-entertainment history! Actually, Abyss would be my choice for most demonic wrestler, and I'd qualify the Elimination Chamber as the most demonic structure as well. The WWF completely ruined Kane. * One day title reign * Continuously jobbing to the Undertaker - Kane should have ended the streak at WrestleMania * Making him start talking (it ruins his gimmick and he's awful on the mic) * Being partners with countless performers - he should be a loner * Losing his mask - made him, and the WWF look like complete morons * Katie Vick * Wearing face paint to look like scars * Having hair on half of his head * "VOICES" TNA is starting to do the same with Abyss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2007 And after 10 years of bad booking decisions, he's STILL over. That's Matt Hardy level of overcoming the booking odds to maintain overness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2007 Yeah, but even though a lot of his storylines have been pretty terrible (the Katie Vick storyline, his feud with Shane McMahon, getting used as Bischoff's perennial cliche enforcer) he's always been booked as very dominant, and often unbeatable. It's hard not to stay fairly over with that kind of character, coupled with him being a solid big man worker, at least in terms of WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2007 Kane = Instant channel changer for me. I can't stand the big lug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2007 He has pryo and is still put over as an intimidating force. Kane has really changed how he looks over the years. I think he should go back to using the mask. Have him hallucinate that there are scars on his body and he'll turn into a monster again. Also, Kane's character has been hurt by the numerous times that he has tagged and turned on the Undertaker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites