Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 Sage Rosenfels was a free agent who got zero interest from all 32 teams as a starter for a reason. There is ZERO chance he will take over for Schaub. Hell, Schaub could barely walk going into the game against the Chargers yesterday and he STILL started over Sage. If Sage keeps having a better rating and more touchdowns than Shaub while giving you the same amount of turnovers that Shaub is giving you, he will eventually get the nod. He is simply outplaying Matt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 Let's not forget San Diego sort of just... gave up by the time Rosenfels came in, and Rosenfels still served up a pick. Yeah, no shit. Lost in all the fawning over his 4 TD 4th quarter against the Titans (against the soft-ass prevent D the Titans were in by that point) was the fact that, in that same game, 3 of his first 5 passes were intercepted. And they were BAD interceptions, too. But since nobody here actually watches Texans games, they don't realize that. They just see some fancy TD numbers and are instantly impressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devo 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 http://www.nypost.com/seven/10292007/sport...nn_runs_dry.htm See ya, Chad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 Sage Rosenfels was a free agent who got zero interest from all 32 teams as a starter for a reason. There is ZERO chance he will take over for Schaub. Hell, Schaub could barely walk going into the game against the Chargers yesterday and he STILL started over Sage. If Sage keeps having a better rating and more touchdowns than Shaub while giving you the same amount of turnovers that Shaub is giving you, he will eventually get the nod. He is simply outplaying Matt. He isn't outplaying Schaub. Have you actually watched a Texans game outside of the one they played against Atlanta? Sage's TD's have all been garbage-time against soft defenses. The Titan game looks impressive on paper but when you peel back the layers and realize that part of the reason the Texans were so far behind and facing a soft Titan defense in the 4th quarter was because Sage tossed 3 interceptions earlier in the game to directly set up several Titan scores. His TD yesterday against the Chargers was meaningless. The one he had against Jacksonville was also meaningless as they were losing the game 37-9 at the time. Trust me. There is ZERO chance of Sage starting over Schaub, barring an injury. It just isn't going to happen. And QB rating is one of the most useless stats in existence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 You are simply making excuses to why the guy is outplaying the other. What is Matt doing that has solidified his hold onto the starting QB position? He is turning the ball over, so is Sage. Matt has thrown 7 picks to 5 TD's while Sage is throwing 6 touchs to 5 picks(and will definately catch Matt in that department). Fact of the matter is, Sage is scoring when on the field, Matt isn't. He hasn't thrown a touchdown in the last 4 games. The one he threw in Atlanta was a horrible pass that his reciever caught while falling down through the CB's arms after he missed the pick. That Tennesse game, I will give you 2 of Sage's touchdowns were against that pretty much prevent D that Tennesse was playing, but you are dreaming if you are saying they didn't tighten back up after that and he still got two more to get them the win. Yes, his numbers got inflated in that game. And in this new world, apparently defenses don't go for shutouts? There was nothing soft about the coverage in his one touchdown against the chargers. It was just a good play. Proven by the fact that the Chargers didn't give up anything else throughout the game. Every single knock against Shaub coming into the league appear to still be true. If he keeps putting up goose eggs they are going to sit him "To rest his nagging injuries that are no doubt affecting his play. But make no mistake, Matt Shaub is still the QB of this team". Call the stats inflated and his touchdowns nothing, if he keeps producing them when Shaub isn't, he is GOING to get that starting spot. And I actually agree with you on the Rating stat. It just seems others around here cares about it so I used it. The only stats I care about are wins, turnovers, touchdowns. None of which are looking great for Matt or Sage right now, but at least Sage has the touchdowns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 I didn't know a team was still in play for a shutout when they already allowed a FG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 Haven't given up a touchdown. Which generally makes defenses happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 When you are up by 32 points at that point, you're generally happy either way, and you might conserve energy like the Chargers did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 I don't recall stating that Schaub has been great this year. Mediocre quarterback play is one reason the Texans suck again. Your argument is that Sage has been better and will eventually be named the starter over him based on merit. All I'm saying is that that won't happen. Schaub is Kubiak's guy and will continue to be so for at least until the end of next year, and Sage's garbage time numbers are one reason given for that (the other big reasons being the three draft picks and big contract they gave up for him). Witness with David Carr and Tony Banks/Dave Ragone/Sage: the Texans have gone out of their way for 5 1/2 years to avoid anything resembling a QB controversy. That just isn't going to change any time soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted October 29, 2007 Oh, great! Brian Urlacher has an arthritic back! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MFer 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 Mort just reported that the Cowboys and Romo agreed to a 6-year, $67.5 million dollar deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 I swear, ESPN is TRYING to make me vomit with all this slurping of Favre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 That's cause he's comfortable in Wrangler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANKLELOCK 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 I really like Steve Young. Him, Parcells, and Ditka make ESPN's football coverage sufferable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 Tony is completely embarrassing himself with his gigantic man-crush on Favre. I also liked how the first replay of the TD pass had to be a 10-second closeup of Favre's reaction. Yes, I'm really glad I tuned into Monday Night Favre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted October 30, 2007 Dude, I don't know what you expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 Point taken. I never have imagined it could be this bad, though. I really can't wait for Favre's wife to visit the booth. Maybe she'll read another love poem on air like she did during the open. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 I really can't wait for Favre's wife to visit the booth. Maybe she'll read another love poem on air like she did during the open. Where's Rick Dempsey when we need him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted October 30, 2007 She's hot. Stop bitching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted October 30, 2007 Well, when you're 6 of 8 for 118 yards and a touchdown in the first half, it's noticeable. Also, why is it that every time anyone mentions Brett Favre they have to mention fellatio along with it? Jeez. Does Tom Brady get rimjobs, then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 The Espn crew is awful no matter who the quarterbacks are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 Havin' fun out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 Jesus. I like Brett Farve and everything, but they are going to Brady-ian levels right here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted October 30, 2007 Let's not go too far here. This is only .85 on the Manning scale here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 Letting them score so we can hurry up & score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 34 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 Elam, you motherfucker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted October 30, 2007 You know, for all the hype Vinatieri got (or used to get), Elam has consistently been a clutch kicker for far longer and still continues to perform at the top. Hall of Fame, for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 so much for that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devo 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 Ho-lee crap. If you thought the hype was bad before... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 Neat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites